Anduin's deal is a cheap and lazy way to create some drama and character development.

[Harbour]

Really not a fan of this move. I got that many people were tired of "pure good golden boy" portrayal of Anduin, but starting with the very MoP there was more or less clear NATURAL build up to "will he or wont he" fate of Anduin, with his Shadow and Light powers.
Thats why that sudden poke to undeath feels like an extremely anticlimactic way to speed up his development. It feels FORCED and ARTIFICIAL.

Same comes to Arthas 2.0 parallels. There were some across last few expansions but NONE of them played out naturally.
Arthas had strong portrayal, went through slow development and was built up to be a Lich King through numerous tragic events and decisions.
Anduin was literally yeeted by flying girls, caged and then poked with the sword to undeath. Voila, he is a bad guy now.
And you are already know what is going to happen - he will be freed from mind control and feel bad for what he has done. But in fact nothing would be different from how he was before SL. Same golden boy, but with an edgy look.
Very cheap and very lazy writing. I really hope people wont eat it up, its almost as bad as Sylvanas stuff story and character wise.

[Stopher121]

Anduin and for that matter Arthus are not undead. Arthus lost his soul to Frostmourne but was very much alive unless im forgetting something from WC3.

[Rootsbum]

How about we let the story unfold first and the character develope before we judge?
There are some potential exciting stories that can be told with the whole light/dark within Anduin combined with death. Also, Calia and Anduin may create som stories in some ways.

[geco]

How about we let the story unfold first and the character develope before we judge?
There are some potential exciting stories that can be told with the whole light/dark within Anduin combined with death. Also, Calia and Anduin may create som stories in some ways.

Can we talk about how all the things that previously supposedly affected or taught Anduin something didn't teach him anything or just gave him super powers?
Since he did not care about the suffering of the Kaldorei and so joyful he condemns them to live alongside the Horde and at the risk of another genocide. Without doing any punishment for the Horde or any security for the Kaldorei?

[Nerovar]

Anduin and for that matter Arthus are not undead. Arthus lost his soul to Frostmourne but was very much alive unless im forgetting something from WC3.

How did you come to the conclusion that Arthas wasn't undead?

[Lunavale]

Arthus lost his soul to Frostmourne but was very much alive unless im forgetting something from WC3.

Arthas was very much dead. By the time we get to him in WotLK, he had already cut out his heart.

[GKLeatherCraft]

Arthas was very much dead. By the time we get to him in WotLK, he had already cut out his heart.

Why did he cut out his heart?!

[Thage]

Have you kept up with the story since Warlords of Draenor? "Cheap and lazy ways to create drama and character development" is the new writing team's standard operating procedure.

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

Arthas was very much dead. By the time we get to him in WotLK, he had already cut out his heart.

He cut it out after WC3, Stopher is talking about Arthas during.

[Thage]

Why did he cut out his heart?!

There were lingering remnants of humanity and conscience; cutting out his heart was a symbolic act that allowed him to purge that lingering humanity (until Chronicle later retconned it so he was unsuccessful but thought he was), leading to the remnants of his humanity to manifest as a ghostly child, and lead the adventurer to Arthas's heart.

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

Have you kept up with the story since Warlords of Draenor? "Cheap and lazy ways to create drama and character development" is the new writing team's standard operating procedure.

New? You never played TBC did you?

[Thage]

New? You never played TBC did you?

Joined during TBC, but there's a difference between "Not caring and just throwing raid bosses at us" and "intentionally going out of the way to create cheap conflict to drive marketing." Back in BC they just threw big names onto the raid boss list without really thinking about the why of it; what makes the new crop worse is they actually think about the why of it and pick the dumbest explanations possible.

[Arrashi]

Welcome to modern day fantasy, where almost all main characters are just bunch of tropes and cliches. Especially if they are young chosen ones.

[Lord Pebbleton]

Anduin and for that matter Arthus are not undead. Arthus lost his soul to Frostmourne but was very much alive unless im forgetting something from WC3.

You forget him ripping out his own heart in WotLK.

[HumbleDuck]

But isnt that how wow story telling has been? Like at least since legion? ( Arguably since the beginning really)

[VinceVega]

Really not a fan of this move. I got that many people were tired of "pure good golden boy" portrayal of Anduin, but starting with the very MoP there was more or less clear NATURAL build up to "will he or wont he" fate of Anduin, with his Shadow and Light powers.
Thats why that sudden poke to undeath feels like an extremely anticlimactic way to speed up his development. It feels FORCED and ARTIFICIAL.

Same comes to Arthas 2.0 parallels. There were some across last few expansions but NONE of them played out naturally.
Arthas had strong portrayal, went through slow development and was built up to be a Lich King through numerous tragic events and decisions.
Anduin was literally yeeted by flying girls, caged and then poked with the sword to undeath. Voila, he is a bad guy now.
And you are already know what is going to happen - he will be freed from mind control and feel bad for what he has done. But in fact nothing would be different from how he was before SL. Same golden boy, but with an edgy look.
Very cheap and very lazy writing. I really hope people wont eat it up, its almost as bad as Sylvanas stuff story and character wise.

He is possesed/dominated... not dead. He will be back to golden boy but less idealistic. Which was the part most post complaint about. A character with more character then just "muh... honor.... kill"

[GKLeatherCraft]

There were lingering remnants of humanity and conscience; cutting out his heart was a symbolic act that allowed him to purge that lingering humanity (until Chronicle later retconned it so he was unsuccessful but thought he was), leading to the remnants of his humanity to manifest as a ghostly child, and lead the adventurer to Arthas's heart.

Oh damn, How did he not die?

Sorry for questions, Maybe I should read a book lol

[TigTone]

Anduin is not undead.

He has just been forced into a Maw Knight with domination magic.

This isn’t Arthas 2.0. There are no parallels.

Why hell is this comparison keep getting brought up.

Anduin character remains the same. And his use of holy and void magic will certainly play a role in the future. It may even be the key to break the domination magic controlling him.

[Dalheim]

Oh damn, How did he not die?

Sorry for questions, Maybe I should read a book lol

Because the Lich King does whatever the Lich King wants.

[Alanar]

You forget him ripping out his own heart in WotLK.

Exactlt that happened in wotlk, which was way later.