No changes is obv gone.
So now can they add updated character models, creatures and textures via a toggle? Would be nice :l
No changes is obv gone.
So now can they add updated character models, creatures and textures via a toggle? Would be nice :l
I'm sorry, how so ? If you have to go through the content, that's kinda the proof that it's still relevant and still part of the whole. Your argument doesn't make sense.
No, that's broken reasoning. It's no more "outdated" than the lvl 1-20 from the new races.It's still outdated content that does not belong to the new expansion. That's like saying New Mexico is part of Arizona because you have to cross New Mexico to go from Texas to Arizona.
My point was I don't enjoy Vanilla, and I especially don't enjoy doing it all again 14 years later because someone else decided to play Vanilla again for 1.5 years. It's not a "flex". The biggest argument I've seen against boosts is "I put in X amount of time into Vanilla, it's not fair for someone to boost to 58". Sure completely new people might pay the $60 to boost to 58, but I would wager more folks like myself that know how to play WoW, and played TBC when it was current content will use the boost.
BTW not liking Vanilla leveling =/= not liking leveling in an RPG. GEEZ.
That's a fine opinion, but to me it goes against the ethos. I think a majority of players who refer to TBC as the best expansion have the same mentality, as boosts were not in the game then. Or in Wrath. Or Cata....etc.
I know people are older now, we all have jobs and/or families, but so did people back then believe it or not. They still had to level. So too should we now.
Boosting is for modern WoW. Not classic.
Maybe Blizzard has a data-driven reason to provide boosts. It’s probably not difficult to ascertain the level of interest in TBC vs the number of accounts that didn’t successfully make it to 60, and conclude that the leveling experience of Classic could hurt the potential for TBC Classic.
The prevalence of dungeon boosts in Classic sort of refutes your point. Even die hard Classic players don’t want to level again, when given an alternate option.
So that leaves the nostalgia purists, which will always be the minority.
Really, though, one boost per account is going to translate to a lot of level 62 abandoned toons as people figure out what class they actually want to play. Yeah, boosting a Warrior to 58 helps skip the Classic grind but it’s not much better in Outlands.
Maybe they do have data. Maybe they threw it out there to gauge reaction. The datapoint of people who leveled to 60 vs TBC interest isn't everything because some people, like me for example, didn't really care to play Vanilla over again but definitely want to play TBC/Wrath. Also probably a fair amount of 60's who won't be going on to TBC. I also accept it's an RPG game leveling is part of it.
Do you have some data on dungeon boost prevalence? And not all classic players "don't want to level again" as I'm not the only person who's lodging complains with a boost system.
There will be a lot of people who abandon it or reroll. I'd argue it'll be close to the number of people who'd abandon leveling or reroll anyways, boost or not. But that isn't the point or relevant.
Last edited by Struggle; 2021-02-28 at 02:01 PM.
Sure wish I'd known about the boost BEFORE I spent all those hours slogging through the God-awful Classic leveling experience...
It's funny to see people like you that don't know why there is a gold problem in classic WoW. So you might want to know the reasons why before you talk **** kid.
1. Boosting, major source of gold income cause lvling in classic is garbage
2. Professions/mats ARE INSANELY WORTH DOING AND WORTH GOLD
Having a fresh TBC AND OR CLASSIC server wont fix these problems when people already know the net worth of items in classic and TBC. Items for BSing and Tailoring are gonna be insanely expensive cause people know those items can be bis for some classes for awhile. The fact you honestly think it will fix gold issues shows you know nothing about basic economics which is pretty pathetic.
In your words don't do drugs or you'll know nothing about basic economics which is taught in middle school, I'm surprised you can even function.
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Nah people like you who fail at basic economics can't see the reason why there's a inflation. There's a reason why no society IRL will do a hard reset in their economy CAUSE IT WILL MAKE IT WORSE.
Last edited by Hexme; 2021-02-28 at 10:10 PM.
Other person gave you a good rebuttal now that you've elaborated on your nonsensical question, but I also see that you're working off the flawed assumption that I always agree with Blizzard and think that a 58 boost this late in the game for Classic would be a bad thing but for BC it's a good thing. For BC it IS a good thing whether you like it or not, and for Classic I actually don't agree with Blizzard and I don't think it would matter. Classic is more or less over at this point.
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I don't disagree with you, but there are a few obvious reasons for the boost. Money and demand. Why throw away $15 a month, on top of the $60 boost revenue, to gate people out of jumping into TBC? There must be some analytics internally at Blizzard that says they will make more by offering boosts versus milking subs to slog through old content. Remember at the end of the day ActiBlizzard only cares about money and profits.
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I'm sorry, how so ? If you have to go through the content, that's kinda the proof that it's still relevant and still part of the whole. Your argument doesn't make sense.
People who created new character after BC had been released didn't skip the leveling. So it seems it was content relevant to BC at the time, just like leveling is still relevant to Classic now even if the main action happens in max level raids.
See above. Repeating like a bot "it's not BC content" doesn't counter the fact it's still relevant and if we accept that people shouldn't skip content to be able to play with their friends now, they shouldn't be able to skip content to play with their friend after BC release.The only "broken reasoning" here is yours. It is outdated content because it is not part of the expansion's content.
Now I'm not going to waste more time arguing with people who don't like Classic to begin with about how Classic should be.
You have to cross New Mexico if you wish to go to Arizona from Texas. By your logic, that's like saying New Mexico is part of Arizona "because you have to go through it."
The only relevant leveling for TBC is the 60-70 bracket. Before that is not TBC content.People who created new character after BC had been released didn't skip the leveling. So it seems it was content relevant to BC at the time, just like leveling is still relevant to Classic now even if the main action happens in max level raids.
Except it does. It's not relevant. None that of the content from vanilla will carry over to TBC:See above. Repeating like a bot "it's not BC content" doesn't counter the fact it's still relevant
• None of the vanilla reputations are relevant anymore;
• None of the vanilla zones are relevant anymore;
• None of the vanilla raids are relevant anymore;
• None of the vanilla crafting recipes are relevant anymore;
• None of the vanilla reagents are relevant anymore;
• None of the vanilla gear are relevant anymore;
And so on and so forth. The vanilla level became just a hoop to jump through to join your friends in the actual relevant content, which is the 60-70 zones.
Except no relevant content will be skipped.and if we accept that people shouldn't skip content to be able to play with their friends now,
In your opinion.they shouldn't be able to skip content to play with their friend after BC release.
And who would that be? Because it's certainly not me.Now I'm not going to waste more time arguing with people who don't like Classic to begin with about how Classic should be.
Last edited by Ielenia; 2021-03-02 at 01:35 AM.