The illogical twisting and turning by the racists on this board has been amusing, but it really has moved the conversation far from the point of the hate speech that occurred within these guilds. IMO there are two factors; the first is the anonymity of being on the internet. Example is the guy who yelled the f-word during his guild's Sire kill. Seemed pre-meditated and he thought it would be so funny to do and of course he faces no repercussions as he is just "some douchebag on the internet."
The more troubling factors are the communities that fostered the racism and made it acceptable. They are essentially white supremacist groups that gathered like-minded people to share like-minded racism and bigotry. As we have seen in the USA that is the first step to what is now the most dangerous type of terrorist group within the country and thus should be snuffed out before it has the chance to flourish.
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You have very little understanding on what’s it is like to be a minority in America.
If you are so well informed in American history they why do you insist that minority’s need to “get over it”.
To me it seems you learned American history from a white washed book that glances over the history of minorities in America.
To put it in some perspective for you minorities in America have only had 57 years of protected civil rights. Civil Rights act of 1964 Incase you forgot.
Even with the act there is still systemic racism in many aspects of American society.
yo you guys should have heard comms in top end raiding guilds 10 years ago lmao it was the wild west
This thread is certainly bringing out some of the inner racism of some posters.
That's crazy and I feel for their family. My old church only had one Black family and they were embraced and loved - that church was in Deerfield, IL.
I'm not saying racism isn't a problem for our country, maybe I worded it poorly, but it isn't "everywhere" nor is "everyone" racist, like some of our more... radical, friends like to purport.
Yeah such as government contracts being given to companies with better diversity portfolios, dis incentivizing white people from pursuing STEM careers because a minority with less qualifications and skill will be fast tracked over them due to these racist policies. We need to do something about minority privilege..
I don’t agree with you, but what I have read was companies prefer to hiring foreign and better educated workers with work visas.
America should not have people go into crippling debt of a 10,000 dollars or more in order to be come educated and competitive.
You ever think that is the reason people don’t go get educated? Also the shit public education system for poor communities and I’m including poor white communities which are treated like trash by the upper white class.
^This right here.
I imagine their next post is going to be about CoD because I can't go into a single lobby without the same kind of racist bullshit being spouted constantly.
I was in a top 10 US guild for over 6 years and then was in a top 20 guild for another 2 before I stopped raiding and neither one of them tolerated the slightest hint of any of this racist crap. Lots of my former guildies spread out to other top guilds and none of them would have tolerated this and aren't experiencing it. There were people / guilds that allowed that but it wasn't like it was the entire top scene like this is trying to paint.
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..and so he left, with terrible power in shaking hands.
You do know there's a world beyond America and Europe, right? Why are you guys who preach this stuff always so Americentric. It's contradictory.
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Nooo, you can't just do that. What if people start thinking they can just get away with saying no-no words among each other in a way that harms literally nobody.
We need our society and future to be PURE. So we will CLEANSE it of filth that doesn't belong there if we need to! :^)
Nice to see that forum moderators apply their rules evenly.
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I don't know. A hand full of guys spamming n-word and making 1-2 retarded comments isn't exactly the new KKK.
Ah yes, the paradox of tolerance. One of those many things ripped from its original context and used blindly and carelessly as a thought-terminating bludgeon in mediocre two-dimensional online discourse. Funny.
"In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies."
And this is about philosophies, even. Not just people talking random shit among their friends in a more or less private environment.
"But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols."
Whoa, a group that forbids its followers to listen to rational arguments because it is deceptive and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. That's awful! Sounds.. familiar, somehow, though.
Wow, the first intelligent response to my post. I did assume that, and totally overlooked the stuff @ujx has said about people being edgy for fun when I wrote my original post. Thank you both.
Many Multitudes Online Constantly Harping About Minor Problems
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It... wasn’t something that was to be agreed with or not, I stated a fact. In the case of government contracting, Companies that have more than fifty employees AND**are accepting a contract of over 50k are FORCED to comply with affirmative action, which literally awards jobs based on being not white, while taking food off the table of white families since daddy was denied being hired to X construction company or X engineering firm in favor of Rashim (qualifications don’t matter, we need a non white) because daddy was the wrong race, and sinking any company that has not enough non-white people or in other words too many white people. This isn’t rhetoric, I’ve discussed this with more than a couple people working in STEM. There is systemic racism in the US and it does not affect the races people like to say. The only true and honest racist policies in place today I can think of only disparage whites.. I honestly can’t think of any that harm minorities.
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It should come as no surprise that a bunch of gamers are racist fuckwits.