Jeanine Añez arrested for role in coup in Bolivia.

[JohnBrown1917]

Bolivia’s former interim President Jeanine Anez has been arrested over the 2019 political crisis that saw her replace predecessor Evo Morales, reigniting tensions in the South American nation.

The conservative politician had faced an arrest warrant on charges of “terrorism”, sedition and conspiracy over an alleged coup after she replaced Morales in November 2019 when he fled the country during widespread protests against his re-election.

Castillo congratulated the police for their “great work” in the “historic task of giving justice” to the Bolivian people.

Anez, who was arrested in the early morning hours in her hometown of Trinidad and flown to the capital, La Paz, had tweeted an arrest order she said was issued by the public prosecutor’s office, with the response: “The political persecution has begun.”

She added the government was accusing her “of having participated in a coup d’etat that never happened”.

The prosecutor’s office had not publicly announced the warrant.

But Bolivian television broadcast images of a heavy police presence around her home in the northern city of Trinidad, as well as of former energy minister Rodrigo Guzman and his justice counterpart Alvaro Coimbra, both listed on the warrant, being arrested.

A former defence minister and others also have been accused.

Political unrest
Morales, Bolivia’s first Indigenous president, resigned in November 2019 amid pressure from some of the public, the armed forces and opposition leaders who accused him of stealing an election a month earlier.

He returned from exile in Argentina in November of last year after the candidate from his Movement for Socialism (MAS) party won long-awaited presidential polls.

President Luis Arce, who won 55 percent of the vote in the October 2020 contest and easily avoided a runoff, promised to “rebuild” Bolivia in the wake of a tumultuous year scarred by political turmoil and the coronavirus pandemic.


Anez had earlier withdrawn her candidacy from the presidential race.

Last month, Bolivia’s socialist-dominated Congress voted to give amnesty to those prosecuted during Anez’s year-long government for acts of violence during the chaos that followed Morales’s resignation.

Dozens of people died and hundreds were injured in the unrest, which saw Morales supporters set up roadblocks around the country.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...probe-minister



picture of her arrest,





Always good to see justice come to these fascists.

[Mihalik]

Yeah, I'm seeing this being celebrated in certain left leaning circles like it's some sort of achievement or good thing.

It is neither.

1. Morales has a mixed record as a leader. Frankly, he's a Hugo Chavez Lite.
2. Fact, the 2019 elections were fraudulent. Had there been run-offs there were decent odds that Morales would have in fact lost.
3. His removal wasn't a coup.

On the other hand.

1. Añez should have called for immediate, and I mean immediate, elections and not start governing.
2. Morales should have been allowed to stand again.
3. These arrests are obvious political payback and political persecution and aren't meant to clarify with happened in the 2019 elections and since.

With other words.

If you celebrating this, you're just celebrating authoritarians playing "You're it". There are no winners here, just Bolivia getting more fucked.

[JohnBrown1917]

Yeah, I'm seeing this being celebrated in certain left leaning circles like it's some sort of achievement or good thing.

It is neither.

1. Morales has a mixed record as a leader. Frankly, he's a Hugo Chavez Lite.
2. Fact, the 2019 elections were fraudulent. Had there been run-offs there were decent odds that Morales would have in fact lost.
3. His removal wasn't a coup.

On the other hand.

1. Añez should have called for immediate, and I mean immediate, elections and not start governing.
2. Morales should have been allowed to stand again.
3. These arrests are obvious political payback and political persecution and aren't meant to clarify with happened in the 2019 elections and since.

With other words.

If you celebrating this, you're just celebrating authoritarians playing "You're it". There are no winners here, just Bolivia getting more fucked.

Nah, thats all bullshit, No evidence of this supposed fraud actually exists(aside from American-backed organizations, I wonder why), and his removal was done with the threat of violence by the military, it can't be any more coup like.
But hey, you have fun throwing in your hat with fascist scum.


But yea, who know that staging a violent coup would lead to your arrest, justice is needed for all the people who where killed or abused by the regime.

[s_bushido]

2. Fact, the 2019 elections were fraudulent. Had there been run-offs there were decent odds that Morales would have in fact lost.

...didn't the guy's party get almost twice as many votes as the next most popular candidate in the subsequent election? Seems like these "facts" are...questionable.

[alexw]

...didn't the guy's party get almost twice as many votes as the next most popular candidate in the subsequent election? Seems like these "facts" are...questionable.

The MAS candidate won with 55% of the vote. The 2nd and 3rd place candidates got 29% and 14%.

So I find it really doubtful that MAS cheated in the prior election. There would have been no need.

And the study by the outside group who were called in to check for irregularities was found to be fundamentally flawed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/07/w....co/HGrEx2Yd1h

So it very much looks like a coup launched by that countries right wing segment simply because the socialist won.

[Forogil]

The MAS candidate won with 55% of the vote. The 2nd and 3rd place candidates got 29% and 14%.

So I find it really doubtful that MAS cheated in the prior election. There would have been no need.

And the study by the outside group who were called in to check for irregularities was found to be fundamentally flawed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/07/w....co/HGrEx2Yd1h

If you read the article you see that even if the irregularities-check was flawed there were still major irregularities; and I can certainly understand why another failed state like Venezuela might be problematic for some in the region.

Basically it is a general trend in S. America with arresting former rulers (I believe all are in jail in Peru); and/or having authoritarian rulers. That's what normally happens with failed states - new leaders claim that they want to clear up the mess and corruption, but are more interested in getting the bribes themselves.

[Mihalik]

...didn't the guy's party get almost twice as many votes as the next most popular candidate in the subsequent election? Seems like these "facts" are...questionable.

Not in the original elections in 2019 when this shitshow actually started.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_B...neral_election

In Bolivia you need to win by 10 points over the runner up to avoid run-offs.

Morales eecked out the 10 points by a 0.6 margin, which in the context of the irregularities and fraud caused the issue itself.

Eliminating the third runner up (super Christian conservative right winger) in the run-offs would have likely given Morales' center right opponent the votes to oust Morales, or at least it would have been very very uncomfortably close.

The various audits and reviews since essentially confirmed that there were irregularities, the issue is that doing a proper review in a country like Bolivia is neigh impossible.

So as I said. No good guys here. Just corrupt populists on both sides with differing bases.

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The MAS candidate won with 55% of the vote. The 2nd and 3rd place candidates got 29% and 14%..

You are mixing up the 2019 and 2020 elections.

A lot of the center to center left votes shifted to MAS from the centrists and a lot of the right of center votes shifted further right in 2020 due to the way Anes handled the situation.

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Nah, thats all bullshit, No evidence of this supposed fraud actually exists(aside from American-backed organizations, I wonder why), and his removal was done with the threat of violence by the military, it can't be any more coup like.
But hey, you have fun throwing in your hat with fascist scum.


But yea, who know that staging a violent coup would lead to your arrest, justice is needed for all the people who where killed or abused by the regime.

Look Mr Tankie, not everyone who declares himself a left winger is automatically good by default.

Morales is an incompetent corrupt populist buffoon cut from the same cloth as Chavez or Maduro, just without same level of shameless cojones.

There are no good guys in this story. You have various corrupt authoritarians competing for with each other over who gets to ruin Bolivia.

Also, chill the fuck out with the conspiracy theories.

Did the US government want to oust Morales?

Yes of course.

Did it likely put its finger on the scale to do that?

Yes of course.

Does the US give a single fuck about the well-being of the Bolivian people?

Of course not.

Did Anes and her cadre of corrupt shithead right wingers try create a situation for themselves where they could rule without democratic consent?

Of course. Duh!

But, did Morales try to do the exact same fucking thing?

Yes. Yes he did.

Grow the fuck up.

There is this thing called "nuance". Shit don't work the way you think it does.

Take a wild fucking guess on who's going to get fucked in this situation. The Bolivian people.

[s_bushido]

But, did Morales try to do the exact same fucking thing?

Yes. Yes he did.

Take a wild fucking guess on who's going to get fucked in this situation. The Bolivian people.

You honestly can't see how ridiculous uncritically saying this is when the very evidence of wrongdoing comes from:

Did the US government want to oust Morales?

Yes of course.

Did it likely put its finger on the scale to do that?

Yes of course.

...?

[Thepersona]

If you read the article you see that even if the irregularities-check was flawed there were still major irregularities; and I can certainly understand why another failed state like Venezuela might be problematic for some in the region.

Basically it is a general trend in S. America with arresting former rulers (I believe all are in jail in Peru); and/or having authoritarian rulers. That's what normally happens with failed states - new leaders claim that they want to clear up the mess and corruption, but are more interested in getting the bribes themselves.

Stop messing with latin american politics US, k thx bai

[Mihalik]

You honestly can't see how ridiculous uncritically saying this is when the very evidence of wrongdoing comes from:


...?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_B...neral_election

I recommend you read the actual wiki article. It's pretty good.

You are setting an unrealistic standard here. You suggest that everything the US touches is always, automatically by default evil.

That's not how this works. The OAS has issues, but it's basically the only independent electoral oversight organization operating in Latin America.

The OAS report has been reviewed by literally dozens of different outside organizations including the EU and has been found to be pretty decent.

The question doesn't seem to be whether there was fraud or not, but rather was the fraud big enough. Some models suggest yes (most), some suggest no (a couple).But it's clear there was fraud, no reputable university, data scientist, analytics organization or international organization contests that.

It is almost certain Morales did rig those elections to avoid a run-off which he was not comfortable with and at the time looked like really could lose.

This is where the shady shit comes in from the US side. The US support for Anes' interim government idea.

But again. Morales did rig the elections, the US just used that to try to remove him.

I don't know how to make this clearer for you.

Neither side is good. Neither side is democratic. There are no good guys here. There isn't even a lesser of two evils. Both sides are bad. If Anes is in a jail cell, Morales ought to be in a cell next to her.