people just find ways around current game build
meta isn't decided, but controlled by developers, they make a change - balance shifts, people play available OP specs and combos
people just find ways around current game build
meta isn't decided, but controlled by developers, they make a change - balance shifts, people play available OP specs and combos
Last edited by iosdeveloper; 2021-04-05 at 08:38 AM.
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The meta has nothing to do with anyone below 17’s and that includes me.
I main an hpal, got ksm in jan, and stopped progressing because theirs no point beyond ksm.
I literally get invited to almost every key I apply to and my io is total garbage (its 1335)
Most people I see (75-90%) either have ksm at this point or have progressed past 16’s and are on 19/20+++
If you’re having issues getting just 15s: it’s your issue. You need to gain io and ilvl like the rest of us.. or pay some dood from North Korea 250k a run to carry you.
If people were complaining about 21+ I could say thats a meta issue: but this post has nothing to do with running 21s
Last edited by Barzotti; 2021-04-05 at 11:08 AM.
probably because since you are french, you are grouped more frequently with french, so you see more bad french players, but it doesn't mean frenchs are statistically worse.
the only nationality i have a problem with are russians, not because they are worse of better or whatever because it's not the case, but because they tend to not speak enough english to communicate with the rest of europeans
People don't understand why meta is meta, don't understand the actual meaning of the word.
For example: they see Fire Mage is meta, then wonder why Fire sucks in a regular 2-5 mob trash pulls in a dungeon if it's supposed to be "meta".
But that's the thing, it means not regular play. So Fire is meta because it has uncapped very high aoe burst, therefore its value only comes into play if you pull 10 or so mobs around its cooldowns. Most other dps specs are otherwise better in regular group by group pull.
This applies for any other portion of "meta". You can recognize bad players or at least players who do not know the principles of m+ progression, by those that seek "meta" at sub 20 keystones.
For a group of competent players what matters is things like combat res, hero/BL/TW, stuns, magic/physical buffs, etc. A Warlock can aoe stun, cause a target to take more damage, combat res and brings very high damage. If we assume a good player skill there is no reason not to take Warlocks currently.
As for this:
So you do actually chase the meta and hop guilds. You can't get a stable group of players that way, you can't progress keystones without pugging. So in fact you add to the problem you complain of.
In my guild we've had the KSM months ago, didn't pug and didn't chase meta. The difference is that we play since Legion instead of rerolling and jumping all over the place.
You aren't really up-to-date in the game are you?
Fire sucks in regular 2-5 mobs xD yeah, in your dreams. I mean, if Fire sucks at that, what other specs are above in your situation?
1 min combustion man! Nothing beats that, not on ST, not on Cleave, not on sustained aoe.
How something is made meta is easy... math. You can’t argue with numbers
Honestly I think it's a lot simpler than most people think these days..
People just watch streams or listen to those that do.. see or hear about people doing 20s and what characters they are using.. and the just copy it. Sure, these streams doing high end content did extensive testing and probably have some community connections combined with years of playing at a top level but no one much below them cares. These copy cats just get a couple bullet points, see what people are using, and fall in line. Then it ripples through the community and suddenly people trying to do between 1-15s think you have to have a DH tank, resto shaman, fire mage, balance druid, and outlaw rogue (you can mix in a couple dps classes as well). Which is totally not the case. A MW monk can heal all of them fine. A paladin tank can tank that easily enough. Any DPS that is competent works. But sadly morons don't think so. They are so worried about what is 1% better here or .5% better there that they miss the they are doing 40% worse themselves at what they are doing that will make the whole thing 20-30-40% easier than what class you are bringing. Silly but true. Sure, if you are pushing 20-25+ type keys suddenly that 1% really starts me matter because everyone is doing peak. But 15s and below.. just a laugh how much people worry about the micro when the macro is letting them down.
Last edited by Low Hanging Fruit; 2021-04-05 at 12:55 PM.
dude everyone who plays on EU knows to avoid russian,french and those portuguese players all the notorious EU Servers are french and portuguese (Ragnaros, sanguini, hyjal with a mix of russian servers icant read the names of) and as some one who did 4k+ keys in a range of 500 io to 3.2k io i can confirm to dodge frenchs
Last edited by Feral Druid ist Op; 2021-04-05 at 01:10 PM.
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I usually destroy fire mage in raid or m+ and I am an Arcane mage.
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Not so sure about French people since I am one myself and I have 1k7 rio. But I guess I would try to dodge you, that's for sure.
dont worrie with that io you would not even make it into my grps not even for no leaver 15s on my 200 ilvl alts ^^
and for your arcane mage comment on your dog IO tabks dont know shit and puling 1-2 packs with a "dantos" route and a fire mage cant do dmg. I want to see a arcane mage to top my overall firemage dps in a 23+ key with my premade tank who knows pulls
Last edited by Feral Druid ist Op; 2021-04-05 at 01:18 PM.
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