On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.
When their resistance is illegal and underground? Yes. You can't land a plane in Gaza, you'd have trouble landing a helicoptor. Palestinians are not allowed to have military or military bases. Their very resistance is illegal, and the Israeli response is that Palestinians should just shut up and accept the occupation and settlement.
Now, unless you agree with the Israeli position that they have the absolute right to do whatever they want to these people (which would be rather fashy and authoritarian), you certainly can see that the Palestinian people have a right to defend themselves. They've had that right for 73 years. And they are fighting an underground, guerilla war, out of their own homes, because they have no military and aren't allowed one, and because technologically they are far outstripped as Israel is a legitimate military superpower made by the West, including and up to the U.S. illegally making them a nuclear superpower.
So yes, Hamas fights from civilians locations - because Hamas lives among the civilians.
Please keep in mind that the last 25 years of this conflict is because of Israeli hardliners. Hamas tried to be a political organization. Hezbollah and the PLO agreed to a course of action during the Oslo Accords in '95. Hardliners like Netanyahu rejected it, and literally assassinated the moderate Israeli PM (Rabin) who negotiated Oslo, and installed Netanyahu for his first stint at PM, during which he broke the Oslo Accords. And that led to the Second Intifada, and so on, and so forth, and Hamas abandoned a political solution, infilitrating Hezbollah and essentially making it what it is today.
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Why was the Ottoman Empire made a British Protectorate.....but the German Empire, who lost the same war, still operated under non-democratic norms, who promulgated the same war (WW1) that led to the end of the Ottoman Empire, allowed to simply continue to be Germany?
Could it have anything to do with racism and Islamaphobia, and seeing the people who lived in these areas as less than human?
I think it might be.
How convenient, every action by the Arabs is entirely justified and if you so much as sneeze at them the wrong way its a Hauge worthy atrocity, But if they say behead a toddle lets call him Hadas Fogel as a random non-specific name of a theoretical Israeli toddler, its not a war crime. Infact trying to stop that is the real attrocity. How convenient for the Arabs in this conflict, Heads I win, Tails you lose.
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Might want to file your complaint with the Ottomans, specifically the Ottoman land lord that sold these four houses to a Jew (Which I've now learned is a serious War crime apparently) in 1875.
On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.
the people living in Sheikh Jarrah often have deeds from the British mandate. Its a common problem as i eluded too ages ago of 2 deeds on houses then the courts rule in favor of the settlers because of the for mentioned reasons. in 1980 the 80% of property claims had 2 deeds on them for instance.
Cool, I'm talking about these four houses that are facing eviction, you know the actual court case. Nobody has contested the legitimacy of this deed to these four houses.
Unless we are operating under the guise of "Any Jew who claims to buy land is a shyster, swindler and a fraud" kind of logic.
On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.
They (Hamas, Islamic Jihad, minor groups) are not defending themselves. While it is not even worth mentioning that they started launching rockets first during this round of fighting they have not been defending themselves for a long, long time, when they deliberately started their attempts at killing Jewish civilians. Those rockets are rarely launched at military objects. Sderot and Ashkelon definitely are not such, for example.
Need to be reminded of their charter? Oh, right, it is "outdated and no longer in force". Surely.
That is a nice story. I could tell you story about Arafat, the man, the symbol, who died filthy rich, but I am affraid the point would be lost. But if you want to, keep blaming Israel for failing the 2 state solution. I will blame the opposite side, whose leadership were never really interested in it in the first place, it was much better to receive all that sweet sweet foreign aid money from the gullible suckers. When you go to negotiations you do not demand 100% or nothing.
Here's the issue.
Hamas acts badly by using human shields.
Israel acts badly in response by targeting the human shields to get to Hamas.
The second is worse than the former. It's the cause of the most innocent deaths in the region. So I would rather end the biggest threat to peace first. I do not in any way support Hamas' actions, here, but they're the lesser of two evils in this instance. We can get around to dealing with that when we've dealt with the bigger problem.
I'm also fine with simultaneous solutions, but not hand-waving Israel's war crimes and body count just because Hamas aren't innocent either. Israel first, Hamas second, fine. Israel and Hamas both stood down, fine. Focusing on Hamas and ignoring Israel's actions? Not fucking fine.
There is no indication that Hamas was in the building to begin with. And see above; targeting innocents to get at Hamas is not fucking okay. If your response to an enemy saying "I have a hostage" is to shoot their hostage in the face, you're not the good guy and your actions are not defensible.
What possible other intent could there have been? There was no military target. The only target was the journalists.See, the differene is pretty clear and not semantic at all. What you're not accepting is that Israel doesn't think the journalists matter enough to warrant ignoring a military objective. Now, I agree that it's debatable if that's ethical or not. In the past Israeli commanders have refused to give orders to bomb civilian buildings. Others have not. It's complicated. What it's not is as black/white as you paint it here. And certainly the intent is not to disrupt international media coverage.
I work with what you guys have to give me here. So far you guys are just saying "You know a lot of these deeds are suspect" and I'm asking "Well is this one?" followed by "Is any Jewish person legitimately able to buy and own things in that region or is every Jewish title holder fraudulent".
Also, why am I, the person you frequently call "Third Positionist" for the sin of not supporting the CIA, the only one defending the idea that indeed a Jewish person has the right to purchase land and have that title deed respected the same as anyone else and that racism shouldn't play a role in if you have to pay rent to a building owner or not?
On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.
This is also a lie.
The Palestinians living there contested those deeds.
Man, using anti-semitic slurs in your attempt to "defend" Jewish Israelis is certainly . . . something.Unless we are operating under the guise of "Any Jew who claims to buy land is a shyster, swindler and a fraud" kind of logic.
I mean it certainly would be equitable, given Hamas' official stance is to target the entire country and every citizen of it. Maybe that is what you guys mean by proportional. I mean if the entire Israeli population is fair game as it seems people here are arguing they are; and somehow those actions are not war crimes, human rights abuses or atrocities of any significance, definitely not anything anyone around here gets animated about.
On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.
No, it's targeting a building - when you call it "targeting journalists" you are helping Hamas and Netanyahu to escalate the conflict.
Is it plausible that Hamas also used that building? Yes, as it is a high building with a good view - which is ideal for both journalists and the military.
Is it also plausible that Israel did it to reduce media coverage? Yes.