Due to the leveling changes made, you can skip the vast majority of extremely annoying quests.
Also, you get your mount with 30 at a much more affordable price, i might add.
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Putting aside that i find it hilarious to complain about the quality of content of a rerelease when it's working as intended, if you have an issue with how old school games were designed, then i'm afraid that's an issue you only can solve by avoiding such games.
I didn't raise the argument about skill, it's about the mindset.
The fact your first thought goes to skill shows how utterly unsuited it is, if you don't like timesinks, MMO's that are more old school like TBC aren't for you.
Yes, 1-60 is part of the game, not 58-70, not 69-70.
You're just trying to somehow argue that because one still needs to level a character from 58 that leveling is somehow unblemished, when in reality the boost is a huge skip.
Where they spend the majority of their time in Classic content, i find it odd that this is somehow an argument.
If it was a short detour, yeah okay, but 1-20 is unquestionably smaller than 20-58.
No, because Retail has multiple expansions and you have the ability to choose from an expansions - but you must choose one.
It does change it because it's a larger portion of the game, you don't knock out 1-58 in a few hours, whereas on Retail you most certainly do 1-50 within a few hours.
Retail places a far heavier emphasis on endgame content, whereas leveling is a sizeable portion when you play a character in Classic / TBC.
Yes, and?
Seems a stupid remark considering i haven't argued that TBC should be for free.
Yes and in Retail you get to choose the expansion you want to play through, leveling in TBC and Retail aren't compareable, simply based on the fact that Retail follows a different philosophy than TBC.
If you want another example of that: Professions, in TBC, you have to go through 1-300 (a.k.a. Classic content) whereas on Retail you can completely skip over that.
Yeah and back in 2007 they didn't release a leveling boost and TBC Classic's design should take the original TBC as guideline, not break with it.
Huh?
I replied to remarks from you exclusively towards the topics i chose to engage, not my problem if you read anything else into it.
Like, you just fucked up and assumed things about me that just aren't true, stop trying to make a dance around it.
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I never said it was unblemished. Just that 58-70 is leveling. Per your logic, leveling is pat of the game, therefore by leveling from 58-70 people ARE playing the game.
And the content they are playing through from ~20-58 is NOT TBC content, it's Classic/Vanilla content. It's all part of World of Warcraft, yes, but it's not all part of the same expansion.Where they spend the majority of their time in Classic content, i find it odd that this is somehow an argument.
If it was a short detour, yeah okay, but 1-20 is unquestionably smaller than 20-58.
Just as the content from 1-50 in Retail is not Shadowlands content.
This isn't accurate. You don't HAVE to choose just one, you can go back to Chromie and change which expansion you want to level in if you want.No, because Retail has multiple expansions and you have the ability to choose from an expansions - but you must choose one.
I'm simply talking about the content, not how long it takes to consume it.It does change it because it's a larger portion of the game, you don't knock out 1-58 in a few hours, whereas on Retail you most certainly do 1-50 within a few hours.
Retail places a far heavier emphasis on endgame content, whereas leveling is a sizeable portion when you play a character in Classic / TBC.
You're conflating those two things.
The zones and content that existed prior to TBC are NOT TBC content.
OK, if you say so.Yes, and?
Seems a stupid remark considering i haven't argued that TBC should be for free.
TBC content is not Classic/Vanilla content. As much as you might want to make it so, it's simply not true.Yes and in Retail you get to choose the expansion you want to play through, leveling in TBC and Retail aren't compareable, simply based on the fact that Retail follows a different philosophy than TBC.
If you want another example of that: Professions, in TBC, you have to go through 1-300 (a.k.a. Classic content) whereas on Retail you can completely skip over that.
It's all part of the World of Warcraft experience, I'll give you that, though.
Yeah well.....they did break with it, obviously. Deal with it.Yeah and back in 2007 they didn't release a leveling boost and TBC Classic's design should take the original TBC as guideline, not break with it.
It's just a very dishonest view of what was stated, because in the context of the boost, one could clearly discern what "leveling is part of the game" means, because 1-60 naturally what the boost skips over.
It's still content a character has to engage when they want to reach that sort of content, because that is how any character starts off.
This seems more like a detail that bears nothing to the argument - okay, now what?
It does, because due to the fact that it was completely unskippable and took so much time, it's clear that this was meant a big part of the game.
No, you're just trying to justify the boost through logic that doesn't make sense, a character starts at 1, you get 58 by doing Classic content, not TBC content.
I deal with it, i am however more than glad to point out the obvious holes that justify the boost, which solely leaves two reasons
(1) Blizzard is greedy
(2) Players are lazy
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Play on a PvE realm. I play in a gamer-dad guild on Westfall, this server is pretty chill.
There seems to be a major conflict between boosters and min-maxers. I think both sides could benefit from remembering that all of us are people, logging into a game to kill monsters, get gear, and have fun.
If you're a veteran, give newbies advice before chewing them out.
If you're a newbie, take that advice to heart, instead of making excuses.
Wouldn’t shock me if boosted players were better than classic Andys. All my friends from top 20 US guilds boosted a character to play TBC. They will be destroying the classic Andys shortly.
Just do some quests, buy cheap stuff off the AH and you'll have decent enough gear in no time. So wait until 61ish to group up. Oh and I guess its obvious but play on a PVE server for sure.
Thanks for the reply, but it looks like your realm is full. Back in the day I was on Aegwynn PvP realm. We never got Isle Dailies done because we ended up forming raid groups to do world PvP, and then you couldn't get credit for quest in a raid group, but we had fun none the less.
What do you mean "at best"? The boosted gear has you absolutely tearing through the quests in HFP, without any resistance at all. By lvl 60, you will be in full greens and blues from TBC, and just like that, within about 2 hours, you have goner from 58 to 60, and have appropriate gear for the dungeons...........
Well yeah, wife keeps them. To save storage space she usually just gives a certain passive/aggressive look, until she gets them out either when "we" decide to reproduce or comes February 29 (whichever comes first).
Regardless, balls aren't the issue, nor is effort, difficulty or challeng - it's time, or rather the accute lack of it that could be dedicated to WoW.