Am I lvling to slow?

[Shelly]

Are Classic raids 'roflstomp' once you're a geared 70 in tbc ?

No.

At least they weren't to me back in the day. MC was close, but in T5 you couldn't handle AQ20 or ZG in a 5+ man group without knowing the mechanics and of course it'll depend on the class.

Basically if you don't know what you're doing expect to "progress" on soloing the raid and often you might need one other player.

For the most part raids weren't soloable until WotLK, at which point you could easily do classic raids with a level 80 in Naxx gear and even some BC stuff.

To the OP, if you'd like to level faster I'd suggest you download a leveling addon. It'll just point you to each quest hub you need to go to to level up the fastest, more often than not you'll be aiming for green quests instead of red ones since you can level faster that way. Also I'd suggest getting the Verdigan's Fist quest weapon since it's not too difficult to grab and will give you a strong weapon for a while.

[arkanon]

Classic is lumped wity TBC Classic. They are BOTH classic. When someone says Classic they are refering to everything including Vanilla classic and TBC classic unless specified.

Theh also never once mentioned soloing. That being said all raids in vanilla will be easy. You already had people 3 manning them before TBCA hit.

Sorry but you are kind of wrong. About everything. Classic is 1-60. TBC classic is 60-70 (58 if you want to split hairs). They DID mention soloing, they said "A" lvl 70. Not a group of 70s, a raid of 70s, or a party, nope, just A 70. Since we are talking about a 70, it is very clear he is not asking if a 70 can easily solo TBC raids, so again, it was clear he was discussing lvl 60 raids. The context was all there to allow you to easily figure this all out in a single skim read of it, and the person in question has already confirmed that what I was saying was right.

You seem so eager to start an argument that you have bypassed all logic and just started swinging. This is far from the first post in here where you have desperately tried to start some weird "lol tbc classic is easy" argument, but no one is arguing about that at all, and it just comes across a little......silly.

And to your last point - a 3 man is not a solo, and is not indicative of the average player in any way, and you know that.

[Healzerbot]

To the OP, if you'd like to level faster I'd suggest you download a leveling addon.

Can you suggest one?

[arkanon]

Can you suggest one?

I just use that Questie one most people are using, its non intrusive, and really just modernizes the system, displaying mob locations and quest locations, level range for completion, and where to pick up quests from etc. Its far from "#NoChanges", but i dont personally find it interferes with the nostalgia or anything at all.

[Heathy]

combine questie with mapster and you have a better map too. that doesn't take up the whole screen.

the thing about questie is that it shows you quests you might not know existed, it also kinda helps guide you to new places since new quests show up at level appropriate times, so just have a better overview of where you should be and anything you've missed. it is much more modern, typically most ppl I would wager have done these quests multiple times and questie just streamlines the process of questing both the getting of quests and ofc the quest objectives, which sometimes can be vague or not near by.

[kail]

They only had 1 70 to open it up everyone elee was 68. Everyone.

How did they get to Arcatraz for their Kara attune?

[A Blue Smurf]

They only had 1 70 to open it up everyone elee was 68. Everyone.

Then it wasn't done on TBC Classic as the Attunement requirements are still in effect. You must have completed the Kara attunement chain to ENTER the portal at the moment and in order to complete it you must be level 70 unless you are a druid.

[Millyraynge]

A normal guild with normal players wont make it through any raid in the first week. Especially SSC / TK and their endbosses will bring some resistence. A lot of guilds will, but its still a minority.

[Malania]

Depends on a few things. Zone you're questing in as some zones are better than others with more and closer quests/higher drop rates. Class you have and the spec you're levelling in. Paladins weren't the fastest classes to level evem with Ret and your knowledge of efficient routes and places.

[Utrrabbit]

Then it wasn't done on TBC Classic as the Attunement requirements are still in effect. You must have completed the Kara attunement chain to ENTER the portal at the moment and in order to complete it you must be level 70 unless you are a druid.

It was literally done day first week kara was opened in classic. It was a raid of ONLY druids. They had 1 70 and the rest were 68.

[Ealyssa]

Then it wasn't done on TBC Classic.

The news was everywhere buddy. Time to catch up with reality...

[Nosnogard]

You've picked one of the slower classes to level in TBC so don't be surprised if it takes a while before you hit 70

That said - There are a few things you can do to optimize your speed
-Get Pursuit of Justice in the Retribution tree (You wrote that you're leveling as ret). This talent is just amazing and 15 % movement speed really helps a lot. Both when you're on the ground and when you get your lvl 30 mount. Besides, 15 % additional chance to avoid spells is just sweet! Especially if you're Alliance, since you don't have access to any silence effect, as opposed to Horde.
- Use Blessing of Wisdom. This might seem counter intuitive but you're often going to find yourself low on mana and with BoW you can just go that notch further before you need to drink.
- Get Sanctified Judgement (Retribution tree) as soon as you can. This talent is the bread and butter for Retribution and you're going to love it. Get it asap!
- Don't use Crusader Strike too much. It might seem decent on paper but it really costs a lot of mana and doesn't really hit that hard. I haven't done the math and perhaps I've been unfortunate with my observations, but my leveling speed went down after I started using CS because I had to drink more often.
- I see you're Alliance, but for other Paladins I'd advice getting to 64 asap and train Seal of Blood. It's just SO much better than Seal of Command (Not that Seal of Command is bad but it's RNG and you can easily have two or three mobs in a row where it doesn't proc)
- Start judging Crusader when mobs take longer to kill. The extra holy damage taken makes SoC hit harder than your white swings themselves.

Sorry for the long post and I don't know if you're looking for advice, but here they are I wish you the best on your Paladin.

[MrLachyG]

How did they get to Arcatraz for their Kara attune?

Druids can fly at 68

[kail]

Druids can fly at 68

Just looked at the Kara log, only 1 druid there.

[tomten]

Can you suggest one?

Get zygor guides. Will make you couple times faster than you would manually... It hands in all quest automatic, picks them up, can choose quest rewards, equips gear, tells you exactly what to do and so on... Its a must have.
Either you pay for it or look on the internet for the "free" version

[bigbleach]

Thought I'd level up my paladin today and only went from 18-22 in 6 hours.

Is there a faster way as solo?

I think that's fine. Little more than an hour per level before 30 sounds right? I wouldn't worry about how long it takes you to level. In later levels, I tend to pick up most everything, and finish all quests ( unless they are a chain ) before returning to town. Sometimes this will put my levels looking like it took 4 or 5 hours. But I'll be 50% through the next level when I turn in and ding. Then I'll have a 1.5 hour level. Depends on zone, traveling, etc. Just enjoy the experience.

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Thought I'd level up my paladin today and only went from 18-22 in 6 hours.

Is there a faster way as solo?

I think that's fine. Little more than an hour per level before 30 sounds right? I wouldn't worry about how long it takes you to level. In later levels, I tend to pick up most everything, and finish all quests ( unless they are a chain ) before returning to town. Sometimes this will put my levels looking like it took 4 or 5 hours. But I'll be 50% through the next level when I turn in and ding. Then I'll have a 1.5 hour level. Depends on zone, traveling, etc. Just enjoy the experience.

[Healzerbot]

Just hit 31 now

[arkanon]

Just hit 31 now

Think of it this way - eventually you will hit 58, and head into TBCC. As soon as that happens, you will be part of ONE of the waves of characters. Some people are already working on their 2nd or even 3rd character, so you obviously will be FAR behind many / most peoples "main", but they will still be doing content on alts. If it turns out to be even remotely close to TBC, people will be running weekly gruuls / mags / kara right through the entire expansion, and farming heroics right through as well.

There are people trying to present spending 70+ hours per week playing wow as "normal", so dont panic about being well behind these people.

[Boricha]

I would recommend using a leveling guide. You could pay for one like Zygor, but there are free ones too. AllyRoute was really good for me, but that was made for classic 1-60 and it won't account for the XP nerf in TBC. It is still probably a good choice though, you will just level faster than it thinks you are.

[Kaver]

Thought I'd level up my paladin today and only went from 18-22 in 6 hours.

Is there a faster way as solo?

Azeroth auto pilot.