1. #961
    Quote Originally Posted by Trabsder View Post
    So what are they doing different from Limit to get so far in terms of progression after only 20 pulls?
    Apparently there are tank adds that under normal circumstance need to be killed but despawn if the tank dies. So they're doing that and using a trinket that allows for a free rez if the wearer dies but isn't overkilled by too much.

  2. #962
    Quote Originally Posted by SeIex View Post
    Apparently there are tank adds that under normal circumstance need to be killed but despawn if the tank dies. So they're doing that and using a trinket that allows for a free rez if the wearer dies but isn't overkilled by too much.
    This is the type of thing I find super sketchy, but at the same time super creative. Not sure how to feel about it.

  3. #963
    Quote Originally Posted by SeIex View Post
    Apparently there are tank adds that under normal circumstance need to be killed but despawn if the tank dies. So they're doing that and using a trinket that allows for a free rez if the wearer dies but isn't overkilled by too much.
    This.. Fatescribe drops a free Rez trinket so they farmed it for their taunt dps classes so they can remove the tank add from KT without costing a battlerez... Which is what Limit are having to do atm.. use a brez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reptar View Post
    This is the type of thing I find super sketchy, but at the same time super creative. Not sure how to feel about it.
    Well the trinket is working as intended, it's not a bug, so it's just brilliant forethought from echo honestly.

  4. #964
    Who would have thought that Echo needs some Tricks to do the Boss and dont play him normaly? Its the great push all over again^^ cheating wherever you can

  5. #965
    Quote Originally Posted by yadasistguud View Post
    Who would have thought that Echo needs some Tricks to do the Boss and dont play him normaly? Its the great push all over again^^ cheating wherever you can
    Explain how it's cheating If the trinket is working as intended? The MD in the great push was a bug, which is different, I didn't like that and blizzard should have made a call on that on the spot.

    This is literally clever use of game mechanics and any other take is a bad one.

  6. #966
    Quote Originally Posted by Purrowl View Post
    Explain how it's cheating If the trinket is working as intended? The MD in the great push was a bug, which is different.

    This is literally clever use of game mechanics and any other take is a bad one.
    I think it's ok to have a take where you just don't like it. Although creative, it's rather gimmicky, even if it's intended to work. But I do agree, I wouldn't call it cheating like the above poster.

  7. #967
    Apparently there are tank adds that under normal circumstance need to be killed but despawn if the tank dies!!!!So they use underhanded tactics to get shit done.They are too bad otherwise arent they?

  8. #968
    Quote Originally Posted by yadasistguud View Post
    Who would have thought that Echo needs some Tricks to do the Boss and dont play him normaly? Its the great push all over again^^ cheating wherever you can
    Cheating ? Please explain ?
    The item in question (Trinket) works as intended to our knowledge. Limit was trying the same thing but using actual Brezz's.

  9. #969
    Quote Originally Posted by Purrowl View Post
    Explain how it's cheating If the trinket is working as intended? The MD in the great push was a bug, which is different.

    This is literally clever use of game mechanics and any other take is a bad one.
    They gonna hotfix it after the race. Add no longer despawns after Tank died. Quite sure this was not intended.

    Anyway pretty cool.

  10. #970
    Thats the thing.They should fix it instantly.

  11. #971
    Quote Originally Posted by Clozer View Post
    They gonna hotfix it after the race. Add no longer despawns after Tank died. Quite sure this was not intended.

    Anyway pretty cool.
    The add is intended to despawn if their target dies. You can do this "trick" even with a Battle Res from what I've heard but they are doing it with the trinket.

  12. #972
    Quote Originally Posted by Purrowl View Post
    Explain how it's cheating If the trinket is working as intended? The MD in the great push was a bug, which is different.

    This is literally clever use of game mechanics and any other take is a bad one.
    Is the trinket counting as brez? Because it should count as one?

  13. #973
    Quote Originally Posted by Clozer View Post
    They gonna hotfix it after the race. Add no longer despawns after Tank died. Quite sure this was not intended.

    Anyway pretty cool.
    Yeah that poster is just a tool. Limit actually used the suicide strat first, echo just improved it lol. The brilliant thing is that echo waited for Limit to do their splits so they couldnt see them farm the trinket.

    Limit may simply not be able to kill it with their current Strat and no trinket.. they're using too many brezs so literally nobody can die outside of intended deaths.

  14. #974
    Players are just so entitled these days that anything they don't agree with/like = cheating, P2W or "bad for the game". One dude even called people "criminals" over completely allowed in-game actions.

    No use looking for deeper explanations than that, it's feels over reals.

  15. #975
    Quote Originally Posted by Corroc View Post
    Is the trinket counting as brez? Because it should count as one?
    It doesn't.. the trinket would be useless then? What reason would you have to ever equip it?

  16. #976
    Quote Originally Posted by Purrowl View Post
    It doesn't.. the trinket would be useless then? What reason would you have to ever equip it?
    If you dont have brez in your group? You kinda get in to a sketchy section when you can brez more people than you are intented.

  17. #977
    Quote Originally Posted by ibogdandx View Post
    The add is intended to despawn if their target dies. You can do this "trick" even with a Battle Res from what I've heard but they are doing it with the trinket.
    Yes, that was also not intended. Why would they implement this add if they didnt want you to play it? Simply ignoring it and just res was not the intended way to play this. Same like ignoring death balls on Painsmith. I dont mind any guild doing this now tho. Just an oversight from the devs.

  18. #978
    Quote Originally Posted by yadasistguud View Post
    Apparently there are tank adds that under normal circumstance need to be killed but despawn if the tank dies!!!!So they use underhanded tactics to get shit done.They are too bad otherwise arent they?
    Limit is literraly doing the same thing (only worse cause they are using BRez instead of trinket) and was actually the first to do it...

  19. #979
    Quote Originally Posted by Corroc View Post
    If you dont have brez in your group? You kinda get in to a sketchy section when you can brez more people than you are intented.
    That is such a niche situation.. what organised raid doesn't have a brez? You'd never wear it "incase" you run into a situation where nobody who can brez is alive, because the chances of that happening on an attempt that this Rez results in a kill is so miniscule.. compared to just wearing a mitigation trinket or a dps trinket etc

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    There's some real Bozzleprogress level logic in this thread right now.

    If they were using some obscure trinket from 3 expansions ago that everyone forgot about to do this, you'd maybe have a point.

    When the trinket drops from the boss prior to this one, it's almost as if it was put there for a reason.
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