Twitch no longer credible?

[GreenJesus]

1. When was twitch credible? Like legit twitch chat has always been a cesspool
2. They need to take all the ASMR ear fucking cam girl shit onto another website, it's really skeevy to target teenage boys by hiding softcore cam girl nonsense on a 'videogame' website.
3. This has nothing to do with the girls, the market is there grab that bag (hell maybe play some video games while you reach your 'dance' subgoal). But they should be regulated to a website that owns that style of content.
4. Parasocial relationships are going to screw up zoomers.

It's pretty sad that the pornstars that came to twitch to just chill are more professional than the e-girls doing ASMR and hot tub streams.

[Phyrexia-KulTiras]

I'm an old fossil who doesn't understand watching someone playing a videogame in the first place (especially on an online platform). Its like beeing the younger brother having to watch your older brother playing.

Didn't like it then either. I'd rather play it myself, thank you very much.

[Endus]

I'm an old fossil who doesn't understand watching someone playing a videogame in the first place (especially on an online platform). Its like beeing the younger brother having to watch your older brother playing.

Do you apply the same standard to the entire professional sports industry?

Same difference, really.

[T-34]

Both. Twitch is an example of what's wrong with the gaming industry.

Games becoming mainstream is a huge problem. Investors flocked to it, and now it's about spreadsheets and not creative and innovative -- fun -- design.

Companies that make games exist in the same world as any other company - in a capitalist world where the goal is to maximize your profit.
Expecting that Twitch or gaming companies should operate by other rules is naive at best.

If Twitch stops providing the content that people want to see a competitor will arise and drive Twitch out of business.
If a gaming company stops "chasing the mighty dollar" and starts making "wholesome, but not profitable" games then the shareholders/investors will fire the CEO and hire a true capitalist or else the company will go bust.

In a capitalist world you either rise to be the alpha predator or you will be eaten eventually.

[Rennadrel]

yesterday, before playing ff, asmon started his stream as Just Chating with around 80k viewers. That's the thing, we don't know cause you didn't put a time for context

The context of that stream was likely due to him being pissed off because Adam Holisky called him an asshole on Twitter and he wanted to rant about it. And frankly, I don't blame Asmond for getting pissed off about it, but the fact that he got harassed by people because of that dude, I don't blame him at all for going on Twitch and just going off about it. It was a great bit for sure.

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It's pretty sad that the pornstars that came to twitch to just chill are more professional than the e-girls doing ASMR and hot tub streams.

Like Mia Khalifa who went back to doing porn because Twitch is so toxic? I don't really blame her, a lot of people on Twitch are just terrible, whether it be people in chat or the sites mods and admins. It's a cesspool and will remain one until they choose to clean it up.

[Cosmic Janitor]

I mean given the opportunity everything converges towards porn eventually. This is just the akward phase where twitch pretends to have some kind of morals, before they eventually fuse with chaturbate.

[This One Time At Bandcamp]

Having a hard time figuring out what you are trying to convey with this thread.

Are you mad at "bloggers" or are you mad at Twitch from benefitting from the obvious popularity from it?

Im struggling to see how people sleeping on camera, has anything to do with "Everything wrong with gaming today"

[Relapses]

It faces the same issue that YT has: It's too big to fail and nobody can challenge it. It's impossible to create an alternative service because everybody's already watching twitch and there are far too many content creators on the platform whose literal livelihood depends on it. How would you entice somebody who's already living comfortably from gaming on twitch to join some random ass no-name service that has absolutely no guarantee of success? It doesn't make any sense. With enough capital I'm sure somebody could make a legitimate competitor for twitch but it seems like an unlikely status quo to change any time soon.

The best we can hope is that twitch admins make policy decisions that move the platform back in the direction of gaming. This, too, seems incredibly unlikely as even though I think gamers widely agree that "Just Chatting" content is well outside the scope of the platform's original intended purpose, it's also far too profitable to simply excise completely. Perhaps twitch can branch off the "Just Chatting" portion of the website to its own unique (shared) platform? Who knows.

[T-34]

Like Mia Khalifa who went back to doing porn because Twitch is so toxic? I don't really blame her, a lot of people on Twitch are just terrible, whether it be people in chat or the sites mods and admins. It's a cesspool and will remain one until they choose to clean it up.

But what if those "terrible" people make Twitch more money than "non-terrible" people?

P.S.
Should be added that I, with very few exceptions, find everything on Twitch to be horrible, but on the other hand who am I to tell a company how to maximize its profits?

P.P.S.
I have the exact same opinion on most games and how they're monetized, but on the other hand I can perfectly well understand why it is so from a capitalist perspective.

[Smeeh]

Twitch, the premier games streaming platform, is the embodiment of everything wrong with gaming today. It has gotten too mainstream.



The top most viewed "game" on Twitch is 'Just Chatting'... so, not a game. The platform has basically become a test of who has the most real life skills (confidence, charisma, bewbs) rather than in-game skills... The top 1% streamers are so detached from the norm that it's like real-life capitalism. Okay, it is real-life capitalism. The top 1% are making millions, while most of the streamers are not even getting a 10th of that viewership. Celebrities start up Twitch and get an instant 1k viewers, while hard-working people streaming for months are struggling to break 20 viewers.

Has Twitch become a microcosm of everything wrong with gaming today?

I mean from the picture alone i can see that way more people are watching games than just chatting (about 263k more in fact) and i cant even see the second row.

[Ausr]

Don't care much for Twitch anyhow. Streamers are given priority and special attention by devs of the game (cutting in line, special interactions with GMs, getting people banned because they killed them), people put too much stock in streamer opinions, the community makes LoL's community look like angels playing with puppies with how toxic it is, and of course, certain people are giving preferential treatment i.e female streamers getting away with far more with less punishment/ban reductions versus males (female showing her chest gets a 3 day ban versus male who gets a far longer one for taking off his shirt).

The only time I watch is for a friend sometimes and a Youtuber I've subbed to since early Youtube with a 20 person community. Other than that, it's just a cesspool of garbage and terrible gaming industry standards.

[kail]

What the hell does credibility have to do with a streaming platform?

All the complaints I've seen thus far have been nonissues.

[Dhrizzle]

I'm an old fossil who doesn't understand watching someone playing a videogame in the first place (especially on an online platform). Its like beeing the younger brother having to watch your older brother playing.

Didn't like it then either. I'd rather play it myself, thank you very much.

It's entertainment. Sometimes it's informative, sometimes it's just fun. I don't watch a lot of gaming streams or videos but there are a few that I like. Sometimes I like to watch someone who is really good at a game I play so I can pick up some tips. Sometimes I watch a newb playing a game I like so I can vicariously experience it through fresh eyes again (the same reason I watch a lot of react-to music videos.) Sometimes I watch someone who plays in entertaining ways. Sometimes I watch a game I find vaguely interesting but can't be arsed playing (PUBG and Fortnite mostly.)

[Varitok]

Credible in what way? They aren't a news organization or a charity, my dude.

[Drindorai]

Alternatively:

Why does this affect your life in the slightest?

[Fencers]

The premise of this thread is terribly dumb.

[Saltysquidoon]

The OP's melodramatic barely coherent rambling does miss the mark by a bit of a margin.

I don't think the evolution of increasingly divergent categories of content (such as asmr and hot tubs) on what was initially and still primarily promotes itself as a videogame streaming service and whether or not there should be a more definite divide placed between those differing content types is so entirely without merit as some of the witty zingers being slung around in this thread would imply.

[Greevir]

I'm confused. I thought Twitch was just an advertising platform for Onlyfans.

[Kithelle]

They really need to censor this platform. It's disgusting. No point even comenting on this. Everyone knows what is there.

It's never gonna happen, they make tons of money off the people who actually need to be censored, literally read a few days ago about a woman who flashed her v-jayjay on stream intentionally and got a whopping 3 day suspension. Her defense was she "goofed" and that was meant for her onlyfans

Twitch is incredibly biased towards female streamers who bring in the money with sex appeal, they even banned the word simp for them.

[Edge-]

Closing this down. It was already a potential basket of worms based on the topic alone, but discussion has teetered to topics outside this forums scope too often. Closing this down.