And the material they found in the compound proved that he was still directly involved in Al-Qaeda operations, and not "retired" like the world was led to believe.
Who said he was unarmed? And as stated already, the idea that he was watching TV is objectively false.
And why do you keep saying he was just "thrown into the sea"? He was given a sea burial, following traditional Islamic procedures.
You're consistently misrepresenting or lying about the facts that are known about the situation, and then claiming as facts things that are unknown. You might get less pushback if you didn't do those things.
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"The difference between stupidity
and genius is that genius has its limits."
--Alexandre Dumas-fils
"The difference between stupidity
and genius is that genius has its limits."
--Alexandre Dumas-fils
Yeah, so you really just have no idea what you're talking about.
You know what they say about assumptions, right? Except that what you're doing is worse. You're making assumptions, and then trying to pass them off to others as fact. It's bad enough when you let your false assumptions dictate your position, but now you're arguing with others based on your shitty understanding. That's not a good look.
If you want to stop saying shit that's wrong, then you won't get called on it.
Fact check your shit, otherwise people will do it for you. Or don't you understand the nature of the internet by now?
"The difference between stupidity
and genius is that genius has its limits."
--Alexandre Dumas-fils
If you have a holstered sidearm, are you armed? It's not in your hands, but it's readily available to be grabbed and wielded. What if it's on the shelf next to you? What if you're reaching for it?
The reality is that he had weapons in immediate proximity, regardless of anything else. It's disingenuous to say that he was "just an unarmed man", just as much as it's disingenuous to say the he was "armed and resisting".
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Then there's really no need for you to get it wrong, is there? But if you can't be bothered to find out some basic things before stating them as fact, then why should anyone honestly listen to the rest of what you have to say?
"The difference between stupidity
and genius is that genius has its limits."
--Alexandre Dumas-fils
And, look, a disingenuous response. Imagine that!
I guess in your mind, "anywhere in the house" is the same thing as "immediate proximity" which is what I said. He reportedly had multiple firearms on a shelf in his room, a few feet away.
If you're a terrorist and have a firearm less than 3 seconds away, then no, you shouldn't be considered the same as an "unarmed man". It's not the same thing as if you're actively holding said weapon and firing back, but you're still an imminent threat.
And how do you know?
This isn't a "mistake". This is willful ignorance. The information is out there. And it's not like you couched your statements as "I think" or used any kind of qualifiers, you stated them as fact.
Except that I'm not even arguing that they didn't. But I hate it when people are extremely disingenuous, and I also hate it when people lie.
Also, it's not just one detail, and they're not insignificant.
But this statement, without any attempt at qualification, is just bullshit hyperbole.
"The difference between stupidity
and genius is that genius has its limits."
--Alexandre Dumas-fils
Everyone has a right to a fair trial, and supporting that principle doesn't mean 'stanning' for the worst kind of people.
Ah yes, the American Imperialism of...finding a wanted global terrorist responsible for orchestrating the biggest terrorist attack in US (world?) history.
Such imperialism.
They founded a violent, wanted terrorist who may have had an explosive device on himself, as it's hardly out of line with the tactics of his organization, and neutralized a credible potential threat. A threat that had been actively hiding for years.
Why not? Why isn't it reasonable that he may have had his hiding place booby trapped and ready to blow up?
I agree. But this is not a normal military deployment or a routine affair. This is going after a violent, dangerous terrorist.
And still you stan.
What is happening in this thread? Are we really pretending that anyone who is a US ally would object to the extrajudicial killing of Bin Laden?
If you want to hang onto a no-exception approach to extrajudicial actions then fine, but I think anyone with a hint of pragmatism would recognize taking out Bin Laden was valuable and not really objectionable.
Was that before or after Pakistan spent years hiding him?
Do you know many? I don't, so I couldn't say. But I'd err on the side of caution.
Because terrorists known to kill children in suicide bombing attacks are...above killing children?
...that's like, absolutely par for the course with the US military. Remember all those bombs we dropped in "not-Vietnam"? For better or worse, international law is largely irrelevant and we (and others) routinely ignore it.
They were ordered to kill or capture. In the moment, they assessed the situation and determine he was a credible threat.
Taking him alive would have been preferable for everyone, especially the US as they'd have been able to keep him in detention and interrogate him for the rest of his life. But that didn't happen.
I'm not gonna be sad over the end result though, it would have been the same had he gone to trial, just with likely the government not pursuing the death penalty due to the information he could provide.
The pragmatic case for killing Osama is clear, and I doubt the manner of his passing weighs heavily on most people's conscience. But moral authority is eroded when exceptions are made to the principle of trial by jury. The West loves to think of itself as the ultimate moral authority, but in that regard we are like the paedophile priest who preaches compassion for the innocent.
"The difference between stupidity
and genius is that genius has its limits."
--Alexandre Dumas-fils
Not sure if this been posted already, but its truly disgusting, and im sure some teachers would even approve of this, seeing how many Americans hates america for some reason.
https://nypost.com/2021/09/12/studen...lags-for-9-11/
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PROUD SUPPORTER OF THE WALL
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NO TO ALL GUNCONTROL OR BACKGROUND CHECKS IN EUROPE
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