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  1. #761
    Quote Originally Posted by Menog View Post
    And this is plain wrong! White washing shit that didnt harm anyone is discusting. How entitled can these people be to act like the gestapo of wokeness?
    Yeah man. I'm the one with the problem here.

  2. #762
    Quote Originally Posted by Relapses View Post
    You really don't see how you're conflating your singular opinion on the matter with that of the entire development team's whose choice these changes were. Nobody cares if you think it's pointless. That's not the discussion topic here.

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    It's almost like the developers of the past may have had different values than the ones of the present. Hmm...
    Has anyone, ever, complained about those jokes? Or about certain bits of armour?

    I've been playing the game for a while, and I can't recall them ever being an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Relapses View Post
    It's almost like the developers of the past may have had different values than the ones of the present. Hmm...
    Yeah, it's almost like they're woke or something.

  4. #764
    Quote Originally Posted by Menog View Post
    And this is plain wrong! White washing shit that didnt harm anyone is discusting. How entitled can these people be to act like the gestapo of wokeness?
    oh my god the things you guys say is so fucking hilarious. like it doesn't harm anyone taking those things out either, you know. ya'll just need to virtue signal how upsety spaghetti you are over "the woke Gestapo" lmfao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schaapa View Post
    Why did it have to take a lawsuit for them to listen?
    The same reason reason they only just removed Mcree and others the people on the top didn’t care about those under them or what they thought.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

  6. #766
    Quote Originally Posted by Relapses View Post
    Yeah man. I'm the one with the problem here.
    Sorry man. I'm not fine with censorship however entitled these people think they are. Trying to make the game what it never was so they can pat themselves on the back and virtue signal how woke they are? Pathetic.

  7. #767
    Quote Originally Posted by Menog View Post
    Sorry man. I'm not fine with censorship however entitled these people think they are. Trying to make the game what it never was so they can pat themselves on the back and virtue signal how woke they are? Pathetic.
    You might want to look up the definition of virtue signaling because it's a helluva lot closer to what you're doing than what I'm doing.

  8. #768
    I was talking about the developers, not you. How can we virtue signal? We are anonymous people... makes no sense

  9. #769
    Quote Originally Posted by Menog View Post
    I was talking about the developers, not you. How can we virtue signal? We are anonymous people... makes no sense
    And why does a developer making a change to the game that you have no control over have to be because of whatever narrative you feel is appropriate? It doesn't. Your opinion isn't that important. But you know whose opinion is important? Those of the people who are being paid to make the video game. You can disagree with them and write it off as wokescolding but that's not what's happening here.

  10. #770
    Quote Originally Posted by Relapses View Post
    Your opinion isn't that important. But you know whose opinion is important? Those of the people who are being paid to make the video game.
    They are not important. They cant even make a decent expansion since legion lolz. Their personal opinions mean jack shit if the customers doesn't agree with them. The only opinion that matters is the customers opinion.

  11. #771
    Quote Originally Posted by Relapses View Post
    And why does a developer making a change to the game that you have no control over have to be because of whatever narrative you feel is appropriate? It doesn't. Your opinion isn't that important. But you know whose opinion is important? Those of the people who are being paid to make the video game. You can disagree with them and write it off as wokescolding but that's not what's happening here.
    Who are paid by the people who play the game. Or do you think that Blizzard generates money out of thin air?

    It's always funny when woke leftists defend big corporations, lol.

  12. #772
    Quote Originally Posted by Menog View Post
    They are not important. They cant even make a decent expansion since legion lolz. Their personal opinions mean jack shit if the customers doesn't agree with them. The only opinion that matters is the customers opinion.
    Frankly if your opinion is "Master Baiter should never have been removed ever," then your opinion wasn't worth listening to in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharein View Post
    Who are paid by the people who play the game. Or do you think that Blizzard generates money out of thin air?

    It's always funny when woke leftists defend big corporations, lol.
    TIL it's "leftist" to defend human beings having the agency to make a video game the way they want.

  13. #773
    Quote Originally Posted by Relapses View Post
    Frankly if your opinion is "Master Baiter should never have been removed ever," then your opinion wasn't worth listening to in the first place.
    In a game where you have characters born from rape and genocides on scales humans can't even imagine you are offended by a masturbation joke?

  14. #774
    Quote Originally Posted by Sharein View Post
    Who are paid by the people who play the game. Or do you think that Blizzard generates money out of thin air?

    It's always funny when woke leftists defend big corporations, lol.
    Wokeness is not leftist. I am a social democrat and the crap these people call for is plain bonkers for people that live in socialist democracys in europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Relapses View Post
    Frankly if your opinion is "Master Baiter should never have been removed ever," then your opinion wasn't worth listening to in the first place.
    I didnt even knew there was that panda till they removed it. Thats not my issue. My real problem is having these idiots ruining the parts of the game that were clearly made by people that are far more talented than them. My real issue is the changes in Black themple and Karazhan wich were absolute gems on their time (ten fucking years ago) and having it being smudged by these people that brought us BFA and Shadowlands is an absolute insult. Why mess with stuff most players experienced back then and had absolutly no issue with?
    Why are these zealots of wokeness so bothered with this shit?

  15. #775
    Quote Originally Posted by Relapses View Post
    Frankly if your opinion is "Master Baiter should never have been removed ever," then your opinion wasn't worth listening to in the first place.

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    TIL it's "leftist" to defend human beings having the agency to make a video game the way they want.
    lol

    Except you don't because you get up in arms when they don't make it exactly according to woke guidelines.

    Put edgy jokes and scantly clad women in?

    REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

  16. #776
    Quote Originally Posted by Menog View Post
    Wokeness is not leftist. I am a social democrat and the crap these people call for is plain bonkers for people that live in socialist democracys in europe.

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    I didnt even knew there was that panda till they removed it. Thats not my issue. My real problem is having these idiots ruining the parts of the game that were clearly made by people that are far more talented than them. My real issue is the changes in Black themple and Karazhan wich were absolute gems on their time (ten fucking years ago) and having it being smudged by these people that brought us BFA and Shadowlands is an absolute insult. Why mess with stuff most players experienced back then and had absolutly no issue with?
    Why are these zealots of wokeness so bothered with this shit?
    That's a nice opinion you've got there. It'd be a shame if somebody disagreed with it, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharein View Post
    lol

    Except you don't because you get up in arms when they don't make it exactly according to woke guidelines.

    Put edgy jokes and scantly clad women in?

    REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
    Brother, the only people REEEEEEEE'ing in this topic are the ones incapable of understanding that sometimes things change for reasons that aren't perfectly aligned with their personal beliefs.

  17. #777
    They can always prove me wrong and make something thats edible.

  18. #778
    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty123456 View Post
    In a game where you have characters born from rape and genocides on scales humans can't even imagine you are offended by a masturbation joke?
    The content of the story and the content of the game aren't on the same spectrum. It doesn't have to be all of one or nothing of another. This binary thought process is precisely why these changes are controversial (and also precisely why they shouldn't be).

  19. #779
    Quote Originally Posted by Relapses View Post
    No, it isn't. And if you think it is, you're part of the problem.
    I mean, when people say "woke culture," they do mean "not pandering to people whose experiences I can completely identify with—even at the expense of the rest of the fanbase—is bad, actually." (And it would apparently not be P.C. of me to be more specific than that.)
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  20. #780
    Quote Originally Posted by Menog View Post
    They can always prove me wrong and make something thats edible.
    There are plenty of people still subscribed to the game not spending hours of their day trying to prove to the world the importance of their opinion. I'd wager paying customers are probably more valuable than those who are terminally dissatisfied with everything they do or don't do.

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