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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    Yes.


    Anyway, the male incubus looks much more sexualized than the female succubus.

    And they changed the female one because it was too sexualized before...
    A sign fo the times I guess
    Yeah, I suspect the whole upheaval will make wow a lot more dull, and folks will leave.

    The sexualization and assault charges are inside the company. their CEO and coworkers are the problem - doing a full rework of wow seems in most cases completely beside the point.

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Bakis View Post
    How interesting conclusion since I've been posting at MMC in TBC.
    And since you so profoundly miss the point I take it is no point in explaining it further since you didnt even grasp its essence which btw has nothing to do with recolored mounts in itself but a larger picture.
    No. You simply tried to make a point (badly btw) and you are now back peddling.

    You literally were complaining of the recolouring mobs/mounts etc. When I called you out on your bs; You got defensive. Than you made up some bs lie about how the picture you arè talking about is larger.

    (It is not btw)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    Yes.


    Anyway, the male incubus looks much more sexualized than the female succubus.

    And they changed the female one because it was too sexualized before...
    A sign fo the times I guess
    Ummm. What.

    They literally have not touched the succubus model. It is still the same it has been for years.

    I do not know where you got your information but it is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbr View Post
    Yeah, I suspect the whole upheaval will make wow a lot more dull, and folks will leave.

    The sexualization and assault charges are inside the company. their CEO and coworkers are the problem - doing a full rework of wow seems in most cases completely beside the point.
    The person is wrong btw. They have not touched the succubus model at all. They have not changed anything.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Utrrabbit View Post
    Ummm. What.

    They literally have not touched the succubus model. It is still the same it has been for years.

    I do not know where you got your information but it is wrong.
    It's not wrong, it's true and you can see the pictures with the comparison I posted below my original post.

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    It's not wrong, it's true and you can see the pictures with the comparison I posted below my original post.
    It is. Thet LITERALLY have not touched the succubus at ALL since years ago when they actually REMOVED clothing.

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by Utrrabbit View Post
    It is. Thet LITERALLY have not touched the succubus at ALL since years ago when they actually REMOVED clothing.
    I meant overall, not just in the past few years.
    So yeah, I have right... because they clearly did... two times actually.

  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    It’s unlikely they are asking the art team to use the same skeleton, the art team likely just wants to hit X amount of new models which means they either need to use pre existing skeletons or make less models so they can put more time into rigging up new skeletons before any modelling can start.
    Which is very limiting if you ask me. Those who make the art before implementation must be asked to draw something that uses the same skeleton. More like> Hey, so we need you to design something new, but not really new, again, the will be using the same skeletons because of time constraints and you know... small indie company. So, make something new that's also old again ok? Thank you.

  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by javierdsv View Post
    Which is very limiting if you ask me. Those who make the art before implementation must be asked to draw something that uses the same skeleton. More like> Hey, so we need you to design something new, but not really new, again, the will be using the same skeletons because of time constraints and you know... small indie company. So, make something new that's also old again ok? Thank you.
    looking at the concept art it's more likely they come up with the idea's then then down the line see if they can reuse the skeletons for example we had conept art like this which doesn't look like it was drawn over a pre existing skeletons but obviously ends up using them


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  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    Yes.


    Anyway, the male incubus looks much more sexualized than the female succubus.

    And they changed the female one because it was too sexualized before...
    A sign fo the times I guess
    You need to lay off reddit, urgently.

  9. #109
    Blizzard: We must cover all female indecency!

    Also blizzard: Male succubus lmao.

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    i do like sylvanas new model shes such a hot looking waifu

  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuugumo View Post
    Blizzard: We must cover all female indecency!

    Also blizzard: Male succubus lmao.
    incubus. but yeah.
    im sure there'll be plenty using it ^^

  12. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by ImpalerEU View Post
    You need to lay off reddit, urgently.
    I maybe just saw 3-4 memes from the reddit in my whole life and that's all. Wasn't there even for a few minutes.

  13. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by shise View Post
    It all looks amazing and clearly, this not just a patch work. It feels like the next X pack´s work is at full blast! ))

    I can see Azeroth´s fabric of reality being transfomed and filled with all those new nicely done models.
    Just stop. You're either blind or got paid for that. It's half-assed, rushed work.

  14. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinpachi View Post
    Just stop. You're either blind or got paid for that. It's half-assed, rushed work.
    You simply dont know that lol

  15. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    I meant overall, not just in the past few years.
    So yeah, I have right... because they clearly did... two times actually.
    Talk about being pedantic. It's almost funny to see how trying so hard to be technically right can make one seem more foolish.

    There have been two models used for almost 90% of the game's history and it's clear that between those two the "change" was merely a quality update and not at all a redesign. You yourself called the changes to the succubus a "sign of the times" making it less sexualized which is laughable when what you're actually referencing is something that happened about 16 years ago in the early stages of the game.

  16. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuugumo View Post
    Blizzard: We must cover all female indecency!

    Also blizzard: Male succubus lmao.
    Yeah, thats bizarre to say the least. Every patch remembers me why its not worth subscribing again. Blizzard is doing a good work from keeping me from spending 15 bucks with them.

    They trying to sell this woke stuff on typical nerds that play WoW (no offense, WoW is one of the symbols of gaming and nerd culture). They won't get the twitter folk that praises this kind of crap and will lose players that actually pay them.
    English is not my main language so grammar errors might happen.

  17. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Nefastus View Post
    Yeah, thats bizarre to say the least. Every patch remembers me why its not worth subscribing again. Blizzard is doing a good work from keeping me from spending 15 bucks with them.

    They trying to sell this woke stuff on typical nerds that play WoW (no offense, WoW is one of the symbols of gaming and nerd culture). They won't get the twitter folk that praises this kind of crap and will lose players that actually pay them.
    Plenty of nerds are decent people, not reactionary trolls that take issue with those sorts of benign changes. Sorry to break it to you, but your narrow, biased opinions don't apply to all gamers and certainly not to all nerd culture. Even these forums (arguable the more nerdy segment of the game's community) is a minuscule portion of the player base and is split on these topics. You really think all the casuals who play the game and don't visit forums or read patch notes know about much last care about things like The Great Fruit Painting Fiasco of 2021?

  18. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by Adamas102 View Post
    Plenty of nerds are decent people, not reactionary trolls that take issue with those sorts of benign changes. Sorry to break it to you, but your narrow, biased opinions don't apply to all gamers and certainly not to all nerd culture. Even these forums (arguable the more nerdy segment of the game's community) is a minuscule portion of the player base and is split on these topics. You really think all the casuals who play the game and don't visit forums or read patch notes know about much last care about things like The Great Fruit Painting Fiasco of 2021?
    You mean that decent people wont criticize the double standard here? Sorry to break it to you but your concept of decent people is not very good. Videogame players are notorious against woke culture in game, any minor thing can get a huge backlash. They are trying to sell changes that pleases a very small minority and twiter weirdos.

    The speed they are losing players do show they are out of touch with players and clearly their new woke ways arent getting enough new ones.
    English is not my main language so grammar errors might happen.

  19. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefastus View Post
    You mean that decent people wont criticize the double standard here?
    People need to stop saying this there is no double standard they haven’t touched the succubi at all nor have they changed any of the other escort esc Npcs in game they just added make versions as well.

    The only thing have have actually been changed was two pictures and some npc names that’s not a double standard.
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  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by Adamas102 View Post
    Talk about being pedantic. It's almost funny to see how trying so hard to be technically right can make one seem more foolish.

    There have been two models used for almost 90% of the game's history and it's clear that between those two the "change" was merely a quality update and not at all a redesign. You yourself called the changes to the succubus a "sign of the times" making it less sexualized which is laughable when what you're actually referencing is something that happened about 16 years ago in the early stages of the game.
    Yeah, the foolish people were saying that the model wasn't changed in any way shape or form, while in fact Sucucbus was indeed changed two times - and it's just simply wrong saying that they didn't change it any way.

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