1. #4301
    Quote Originally Posted by Barzotti View Post
    ROFL

    You claimed you didn't know what RT meant but you quote them and consider them as a reliable source 15 minutes later, that's astounding.
    Linked from the thread. Didn't notice till you pointed it out.

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    If you want a non-RT source then sure, here's another.

  2. #4302
    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    Regardless of your feelings on the morality of the war, the Russians are invading right now, and their victory is assured. Ukraine's military lifeline depends on air support and retention of Kyiv, as Kyiv is the crossroads for their ground forces and logistics to move through. Ukraine lost air superiority days ago and their capital is in the midst of being captured. Ukraine is a small 3rd rate power that is being conquered by a world superpower that hasn't even deployed all of its assets and soldiers it has waiting on the border. No one is coming to save Ukriane. There is only one way this story ends and the only thing that matters is how many people are going to die for nothing before the inevitable happens. If Zelensky truly cared about the people he claims to represent, he would surrender and instruct his people not to fight, rather than holding out and letting more people be meat shields.



    One example.



    Apparently even a cursory two minute glance is too much to ask of you.
    Didn't think I'd live to see the day with this disgusting level of rooting for russian takeover of a legitimate country, but here we are.

    Also, lol.. RT.

  3. #4303
    Quote Originally Posted by CostinR View Post
    Russia is winning but they are not rolling through the country.

    Ukrainian soldiers are NOT surrendering. I have not seen a single example of a surrender by Ukrainian forces and I've spent these last 3 days glued to my screen reading reports on this.
    I can send you some, though who knows how authentic it is. There's no way to prove any of this definitively until after the war is done.

    That's just the Chinese commercial banks. US/EU trade is worth at least 10 times that with Russia. Getting sanctioned will be a financial nightmare. No financial institutions in the world will risk crossing the US and losing access to the dollar-dominated international financial system. That's just bad for business.
    The noise over Chinese measures is simply those banks transitioning to yuan / ruble based transactions. As long as the transactions are done in dollars, US government can technically sanction those Chinese banks for non-compliance. If the transactions are denominated in different currencies, US government has no legal standing to do anything about them.

    Russia does make their own chips, it's just that they are inferior to Chinese ones which are still a decade behind Taiwanese ones.
    I think the most likely outcome with respect to the chip situation (which is a real and painful vulnerability for them) is importing or smuggling them in via a third party (similar to how it was done during USSR times) to the extent that they cannot cover the deficit using their own tech.
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  4. #4304
    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    Regardless of your feelings on the morality of the war, the Russians are invading right now, and their victory is assured. Ukraine's military lifeline depends on air support and retention of Kyiv, as Kyiv is the crossroads for their ground forces and logistics to move through. Ukraine lost air superiority days ago and their capital is in the midst of being captured. Ukraine is a small 3rd rate power that is being conquered by a world superpower that hasn't even deployed all of its assets and soldiers it has waiting on the border. No one is coming to save Ukriane. There is only one way this story ends and the only thing that matters is how many people are going to die for nothing before the inevitable happens. If Zelensky truly cared about the people he claims to represent, he would surrender and instruct his people not to fight, rather than holding out and letting more people be meat shields.
    I call you a coward because in this whole post not ONCE do you actually condemn Russia for their aggression against Ukraine. Ukraine and it's people have made it clear they do not want Russia running their country.

    you trying to gaslight the people of an entire country to give their freedoms over to an aggressor makes you morally repugnant here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creotor View Post
    Did you link the wrong thing?
    I mean, unless some other ICC released something about some other Ukraine, then no.

  6. #4306
    Quote Originally Posted by Sorshen View Post
    Didn't think I'd live to see the day with this disgusting level of rooting for russian takeover of a legitimate country, but here we are.

    Also, lol.. RT.
    I don't know what RT is! can we get a mod in here?
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  7. #4307
    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Even more, it is very well known as one of the first big things during Cold War. Or should be well known. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



    Ya got source? Taiwan was folowing the general sanctions before, but this came out just 1h ago and has barely any marker on the internet yet. No offense.
    Computer chip industry begins halting deliveries to Russia in response to U.S. sanctions
    The world’s largest semiconductor manufacturer, TSMC, is among the companies suspending sales to Russia


    Japan to impose sanctions on Russia and restrict chip exports

    US tech sanction applies to any chip manufacturers that use US technology and manufacturing equipment. Basically, every single manufacturer in the world.

  8. #4308
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    Ah, that's the old one. New one is pretty much cutting off consumer chips, meaning for the average Russian citizen and businesses.
    P.S.
    I remember when Sberbank decided against using Elbrus CPU's. Mistake in a long term, assuming local production.

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    https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status...14109521043462

    As per British intelligence:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    What is RT?
    Russian propaganda. That's not even hyperbole; Russia Today is directly funded by the Russian government.
    "If you are ever asking yourself 'Is Trump lying or is he stupid?', the answer is most likely C: All of the Above" - Seth Meyers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    What is RT?
    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    It’s where your misinformation originated.
    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    No seriously. What is RT?
    ...five minutes later...
    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    Next up in the continuing story, in which our resident good-gracious-me-definitely-not-a-gaslighting-sealion asks "What is RT?" shortly before... linking it as an information source.

    Fucking. Clownshoes.


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  11. #4311
    Quote Originally Posted by Strawberry View Post
    It's a good thing we have you to tell us what China thinks.
    The President of China has written three books about his governance of China, the third is about the future of China, it's worth a read if you want to know what China thinks. I don't know if Slant had read them. But it's a must read for anyone seriously interested in geopolitics even if it is very repetitive.

    China isn't going to get directly involved in any conflict it's not itself a part of. China wants to become more powerful; Claim it's ancestral territory and unite China, Become much more authoritarian then they already are and to become the nation that will lead the world into the future. Their goals for foreign politics are to maximize their profits from trade, to invest in weaker nations so they can join the world stage. and to trade freely with other countries who can do what they want as long as they respect China.

    Obviously there is a lot of propaganda in there. However something worth of note is that a part of ancestral China they call Outer Northeast China is today a part of Russia and it's commonly known as Outer Manchuria. Russia has signed a border treaty with China regarding the disputed area early after the start of the century, where Russia gave China two island. However strategically speaking the area still part of Russia is a very desirable piece of land for them as it gives them direct access to the Japanese sea. Having it would mean their ability to project power toward and ward of the US would increase tremendously.
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  12. #4312
    Per the BBC, Azerbaijans state oil company is to offer free fuel to Ukrainian firefighters and ambulances during the conflict. Azerbaijan is allied to Russia. Maybe a message there.

  13. #4313
    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Per the BBC, Azerbaijans state oil company is to offer free fuel to Ukrainian firefighters and ambulances during the conflict. Azerbaijan is allied to Russia. Maybe a message there.
    Man it'd be pretty glorious if Russia ended up alienating their allies and uniting the world against them.

  14. #4314
    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Ah, that's the old one. New one is pretty much cutting off consumer chips, meaning for the average Russian citizen and businesses.
    P.S.
    I remember when Sberbank decided against using Elbrus CPU's. Mistake in a long term, assuming local production.

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    https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status...14109521043462

    As per British intelligence:

    The consumer chips probably won't be impacted much. Russia get most of their consumer-level chips from China. Although technically the sanction extends to SMSC, which also uses US technology and manufacturing equipment, SMSC will probably ignore the sanction. Especially since they are already under a US sanction. They'll probably need to get paid under the table. Not even the Chinese financial institutions will cross the US sanction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Man it'd be pretty glorious if Russia ended up alienating their allies and uniting the world against them.
    I'm pretty sure that is largely what Russia has done. Putin is also pushing countries like Finland and Sweden closer to NATO because they have seen how unhinged he is to invade Ukraine with no pretext.
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  16. #4316
    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Per the BBC, Azerbaijans state oil company is to offer free fuel to Ukrainian firefighters and ambulances during the conflict. Azerbaijan is allied to Russia. Maybe a message there.
    Azerbaijan's position is much more likely to mirror the stance and position of Turkey. Perhaps Turkey influenced this kind of position and maybe we'll see a change in Turkey's official stance too. On top of that, Russia's close ties with Armenia definitely play a role.

  17. #4317
    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    It is objectively true that the world's response to other terrible events has been atrocious and should be magnitudes better. The rest may as well have been pulled from RT.
    Agreed. Though I think in Russia's case this was the straw that broke the camels back. They've been trying to destabilize western nations for years. They've also invaded other much weaker than them countries multiple times. They've been like a rabid dog with no countervailing positives to make up for it. So collectively everyone is now saying enough is enough. Its why the response to this invasion is so harsh.
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

  18. #4318
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    I'm pretty sure that is largely what Russia has done. Putin is also pushing countries like Finland and Sweden closer to NATO because they have seen how unhinged he is to invade Ukraine with no pretext.
    Finland/Sweden were never potential allies in the way that countries that used to be a part of the USSR or were otherwise actually allied with Russia. For them it seems like it's just nudging them towards picking a side since "strategic neutrality" appears to be riskier than previously thought given Russia's behavior.

    I'm talking about their actual allies and shit. Seeing them either condemn Russia/support Ukrainians or, at the very least, remain silent and not support Russia, seems pretty significant.

  19. #4319
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    The consumer chips probably won't be impacted much. Russia get most of their consumer-level chips from China. Although technically the sanction extends to SMSC, which also uses US technology and manufacturing equipment, SMSC will probably ignore the sanction. Especially since they are already under a US sanction. They'll probably need to get paid under the table. Not even the Chinese financial institutions will cross the US sanction.
    It specifically states - Chinese distributors have been notified to stop deliveries to Russia. Obviously something will go through. But Russia is a country of 145 million - even China cannot sell that much under the table and will not risk annoying Intel and AMD too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Man it'd be pretty glorious if Russia ended up alienating their allies and uniting the world against them.
    We can only hope.
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