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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by arkanon View Post
    You seem really confused. They are not saying NO communication can occur cross realm, they are saying advertising a service for SALE cross realm is not acceptable. Are you saying you charge for people to come to your raid? If so you are not recruiting at all, you are selling.
    I guess it's just too bad that they said "advertising for gameplay activities should be done by a WoW player-character who intends to participate in the gameplay activities" with no mention of gold, or sales.

  2. #22
    If only there were platforms outside of the game to allow the advertisement and sales of boosts.... gee not quite the checkmate they are hoping for.

  3. #23
    People think trade chat is going to clear up, but on my top 5 populated relm its already 60% as bad as it was as individual guilds each are starting to spam the channel. Before the majority of guilds were all using 3-5 sales "orginizations" now they all have to advertise seperatly.


    Also what stops you from having the person advertising come in for the first boss hardly anyone cares about then kicking them out for the next 11. seems you'd lose a little gold but its a nice loophole

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Binaris View Post
    If only there were platforms outside of the game to allow the advertisement and sales of boosts.... gee not quite the checkmate they are hoping for.
    They already know that and don't give a shit. As long as it stops the spam in-game we all win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Binaris View Post
    If only there were platforms outside of the game to allow the advertisement and sales of boosts.... gee not quite the checkmate they are hoping for.
    Blizzard can totally track the gold transaction linked to that kind of activity, they showed it with the whole Gallywix "scandal" when their RMT was proven. As soon they'll find the escrow account used, they'll remove the gold and ban the people.

    Sure you may have a mini boosting service boosting only a few groups per month and not making enough gold to trigger the system. But who cares ? The problem is the massive boosting industries that popped the last years. Nobody gives a fuck if there is a few boost here and there, it's not even forbidden as long as their is no middleman.
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  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    People think trade chat is going to clear up, but on my top 5 populated relm its already 60% as bad as it was as individual guilds each are starting to spam the channel. Before the majority of guilds were all using 3-5 sales "orginizations" now they all have to advertise seperatly.


    Also what stops you from having the person advertising come in for the first boss hardly anyone cares about then kicking them out for the next 11. seems you'd lose a little gold but its a nice loophole
    Trade chat did actually clear up the first two days. Now its more back to normal with boost/sell spams :|

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    I guess it's just too bad that they said "advertising for gameplay activities should be done by a WoW player-character who intends to participate in the gameplay activities" with no mention of gold, or sales.
    And as before, the only place that advertising a “for gold” activity is allowed is the Trade channel. Advertising in any other chat channel or the Group Finder makes the player subject to actions against their account.

    Not only is advertising for groups cross realm allowed, there is a specific in game tool to facilitate exactly that. You are creating a problem in your head that doesn't exist in reality.
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  8. #28
    Advertisement is already moving away from ingame to discord, so this just doubles down to make sure people dont spam ingame, which is good. Side-effect will be a lot of boosters/buyers will move to the biggest realms where the guilds/player stacks are and intensify the spam there.

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    LFG - "Join our raid! 10/10M lead, we're trying to help other people
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    google - WoW Mythic Raid boosting


    Either way, almost nothing will change, other than spam in /trade. People too hopeful think that would mean the boosing will stop, while it's false. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    Either way, almost nothing will change, other than spam in /trade. People too hopeful think that would mean the boosing will stop, while it's false. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    We also know that boosting was in wow from day 1 when it was totally illegal, but most people doesnt care about stopping boosting, they do care about all this WTS spam in channels and finder.

  11. #31
    How will they police this?
    Does it flag a character after doing adverts and somehow it checks if said character is in raid at the advertised time?
    Does this rely on reports? If so, the one who can report are the ones buying the boost...which I don't think care about reporting, since they buy what they are selling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumorii View Post
    How will they police this?
    Does it flag a character after doing adverts and somehow it checks if said character is in raid at the advertised time?
    Does this rely on reports? If so, the one who can report are the ones buying the boost...which I don't think care about reporting, since they buy what they are selling.
    I report every single advert that I see that is selling any boost of any kind. Im sure a lot of others do to.

    Hell, sometimes i go to LFG just to report any i see, for fun!

    Fuck those people and cheating.

    The funny thing is, the same people will REQUIRE someone have AOTC to join any PUG later. Because they want experienced players. players who know what they are doing. AFTER they have sold AOTC achievements to people that DONT know what they are doing or how to play. They just had a lot of gold to spend.

  13. #33
    This is terrible news for the game health.

    High end players will just outright stop playing once the tier is done and mounts are farmed, no point to keep on farming the same old raid for no rewards on last patch; while casual players on not-so-well populated servers will just have nothing to spend gold on - no reason to farm it either so no reason to log in and play.

    Meanwhile big guilds on world first level will get along with boosting multiple toons crossrealm AND crossfaction with no real consequences. They will function like a VIP boosting community where only world top players will be allowed.

    Your choices: Go to the FOMO server so you can keep up on boosting(or getting boosted) to pay for consumables and legendaries (or get the mount/achv you are not skilled enough or don't have time to get); or just spend time farming on a game that already is very time intensive (with an aged playerbase that has full-time jobs, families and no time to waste). The choice for most will be to move on to other games.
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  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by MoFalcon View Post
    I report every single advert that I see that is selling any boost of any kind. Im sure a lot of others do to.

    Hell, sometimes i go to LFG just to report any i see, for fun!

    Fuck those people and cheating.

    The funny thing is, the same people will REQUIRE someone have AOTC to join any PUG later. Because they want experienced players. players who know what they are doing. AFTER they have sold AOTC achievements to people that DONT know what they are doing or how to play. They just had a lot of gold to spend.
    yeah, but advertising isn't prohibited... you can still advertise, as long as you attende the raid yourself and isn't cross realm... so how will that be policed unless they investigate all adverts and who attends the raid?

    If you report all ads that just makes reports useless since there's lots of false reporting... which makes it even more difficult to find the ones that actually breaks the rule.
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    My problem is: The ones that I ignored didn't stay there because they kept making new characters.
    As long as they stay ignored and I don't see what they decide to spam, I have no problems with it.
    As soon as they evade the ignore by going another character, that's when it becomes a problem for me.

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  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Binaris View Post
    If only there were platforms outside of the game to allow the advertisement and sales of boosts.... gee not quite the checkmate they are hoping for.
    By "they" you mean "not blizzard" though. Blizzard isn't trying to stop boosting, they're trying to stop spam. You can still do boosts cross realm for gold, just keep it out of /2 and lfg.

    What this might ultimately lead to is some sort of addon for boost spamming, which would be funny. Could also do a custom channel in game chat.
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  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    People think trade chat is going to clear up, but on my top 5 populated relm its already 60% as bad as it was as individual guilds each are starting to spam the channel. Before the majority of guilds were all using 3-5 sales "orginizations" now they all have to advertise seperatly.


    Also what stops you from having the person advertising come in for the first boss hardly anyone cares about then kicking them out for the next 11. seems you'd lose a little gold but its a nice loophole
    its exackly the same organizations that just "divided " themselves into hundreds of smaller guilds

    instead organizing cross realm organization people who are "owners" atm just manage hundreds of small guilds

    nothing changed besides some cosmetic PR stunts.

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    I love how the first day everyone was celebrating on trade chat with their shitty Anal spam, going full rage mode when I implied Boosting will be back within few days.

    Guess I had the last laugh after all.

  19. #39
    Good. I play on a mostly dead server as it is and the best thing about it is not seeing ads 24/7. If I log on TN, chat is full of selling selling selling and nothing else. Though tbh ppl who buy boosts will always buy boosts, no matter how many ads they see or not. I mean it's not that hard popping yourself on TN, but I suppose it is slightly less tempting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baleful View Post
    This is terrible news for the game health.

    High end players will just outright stop playing once the tier is done and mounts are farmed, no point to keep on farming the same old raid for no rewards on last patch; while casual players on not-so-well populated servers will just have nothing to spend gold on - no reason to farm it either so no reason to log in and play.

    Meanwhile big guilds on world first level will get along with boosting multiple toons crossrealm AND crossfaction with no real consequences. They will function like a VIP boosting community where only world top players will be allowed.

    Your choices: Go to the FOMO server so you can keep up on boosting(or getting boosted) to pay for consumables and legendaries (or get the mount/achv you are not skilled enough or don't have time to get); or just spend time farming on a game that already is very time intensive (with an aged playerbase that has full-time jobs, families and no time to waste). The choice for most will be to move on to other games.
    Game's health depends on boosting? How about playing? Just playing? For fun? And not to get something. And if it is not fun then stop playing. If it dies because it is not fun, then it dies. Somebody else playing for you should never be the one thing keeping a game alive, it would mean the game has failed at being a game and instead is being a job for some people (boosters) and a going shopping activity for others (boostees).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baleful View Post
    This is terrible news for the game health.

    High end players will just outright stop playing once the tier is done and mounts are farmed, no point to keep on farming the same old raid for no rewards on last patch; while casual players on not-so-well populated servers will just have nothing to spend gold on - no reason to farm it either so no reason to log in and play.

    Meanwhile big guilds on world first level will get along with boosting multiple toons crossrealm AND crossfaction with no real consequences. They will function like a VIP boosting community where only world top players will be allowed.

    Your choices: Go to the FOMO server so you can keep up on boosting(or getting boosted) to pay for consumables and legendaries (or get the mount/achv you are not skilled enough or don't have time to get); or just spend time farming on a game that already is very time intensive (with an aged playerbase that has full-time jobs, families and no time to waste). The choice for most will be to move on to other games.
    If a game is only healthy because of boosting, then it’s not healthy.

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