1. #1

    Two new classes at once?

    Just about everyone is expecting a new class for the next expansion but we haven't had a new class since legion and haven't had any new "core" races added since MoP. After BFA and shadowlands, blizzard needs to absolutely hit the next expansion out of the park and do everything they can to draw people back.

    How would you feel if they dropped 2 new classes at the same time? Possibly along with new core races? Do you think this could be a possibility or would it be too ambitious for modern blizzard?

  2. #2
    No way this will happen, they can't even finish Demon Hunter third spec.

  3. #3
    WoW's team has been dealing with diminished resources for some time (Legion had a temporary surge due to the cancellation of Diablo 3's expansion, but they clearly cut back immediately after to the point where they needed assistance from OW2 devs to finish Shadowlands). They've also been very allergic of late to developing any permanent features, since that means extra development time each xpac, and they are struggling to balance and refine the twelve classes they already have. I'd be surprised if they added a single class, much less two. That's just more workload that they've have to deal with on the backend (pvp/pve balancing, abilities, tier sets, armor, etc).

    More likely, we will see a form of class skins in the near future - purely cosmetic changes to add flavor to the existing classes and perhaps make them look visually like a brand new one. E.g. priests being able to resemble witch doctors.

  4. #4
    Does WoW really need another class? Like seriously, there are already enough specs and META always kicks in the form of 3-4 fotm specs.
    So what purpose does it server exactly other than bloating? To have a different name and color for another bolt spell?

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Schmilblick View Post
    No way this will happen, they can't even finish Demon Hunter third spec.
    What would a third demon hunter spec even look like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kranur View Post
    Does WoW really need another class? Like seriously, there are already enough specs and META always kicks in the form of 3-4 fotm specs.
    So what purpose does it server exactly other than bloating? To have a different name and color for another bolt spell?
    Would be much cooler if they expanded existing classes with new specs and new ways to play our characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by logintime View Post
    WoW's team has been dealing with diminished resources for some time (Legion had a temporary surge due to the cancellation of Diablo 3's expansion, but they clearly cut back immediately after to the point where they needed assistance from OW2 devs to finish Shadowlands). They've also been very allergic of late to developing any permanent features, since that means extra development time each xpac, and they are struggling to balance and refine the twelve classes they already have. I'd be surprised if they added a single class, much less two. That's just more workload that they've have to deal with on the backend (pvp/pve balancing, abilities, tier sets, armor, etc).

    More likely, we will see a form of class skins in the near future - purely cosmetic changes to add flavor to the existing classes and perhaps make them look visually like a brand new one. E.g. priests being able to resemble witch doctors.
    Diablo 3 and WoW aren't even similar games, that wouldn't nearly be the reason why Legion had the popularity it did. Sure there's a bit of a crossover in players but not enough to say a statement like that.

    Adding a new class is one of the quickest ways to draw people back into the game just to try the class. Class skins wouldn't come close to that if it's solely cosmetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kranur View Post
    Does WoW really need another class? Like seriously, there are already enough specs and META always kicks in the form of 3-4 fotm specs.
    So what purpose does it server exactly other than bloating? To have a different name and color for another bolt spell?
    it would be something new.
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  8. #8
    1 new race and 1 new class probably is the most realistic thing that I can see happen in 10.0

  9. #9
    WoW has been out for almost two decades, and there are only 12 classes? Shameful. Honestly, they should be pumping out multiple classes per expansion in an effort to catch up. A certain other game has been out for barely half the time WoW has, and yet it has twice the number of classes and puts out 2-3 classes per expansion. Even GW2 gives every class a new spec every expansion.

  10. #10
    Given how we all should know by now that Tinker is the Waluigi of Warcraft: I doubt they would do 2 classes at once (No matter how long it has been since the previous class was added) since not only are there not really many classes that the community is THAT vocal about (In contrast to say High Elves) - And it would just be balancing-hell.

    I'd personally take a new race or some new specs for the already existing classes over a new class. <- Yes I know this would also be balancing hell but I feel like most classes has room / lore / the ability to get a 4th spec.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    WoW has been out for almost two decades, and there are only 12 classes? Shameful. Honestly, they should be pumping out multiple classes per expansion in an effort to catch up. A certain other game has been out for barely half the time WoW has, and yet it has twice the number of classes and puts out 2-3 classes per expansion. Even GW2 gives every class a new spec every expansion.
    There are 36 classes. Each Spec in WoW is equivalent to a unique class in most other MMO's.

  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by kranur View Post
    Does WoW really need another class? Like seriously, there are already enough specs and META always kicks in the form of 3-4 fotm specs.
    So what purpose does it server exactly other than bloating? To have a different name and color for another bolt spell?
    Yes. New class = new gameplay. New gameplay = fun. The game is very, very stale.

  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    WoW has been out for almost two decades, and there are only 12 classes? Shameful. Honestly, they should be pumping out multiple classes per expansion in an effort to catch up. A certain other game has been out for barely half the time WoW has, and yet it has twice the number of classes and puts out 2-3 classes per expansion. Even GW2 gives every class a new spec every expansion.
    Class quantity does not equal quality. They need to make all specs relevant and fun, engaging to play and not introduce a fkton of new classes with which they struggle to properly tune them or integrate them into the pretty tight endgame size of 20 player raids. And if you mean FF...it may have almost twice the number of classes, but many just feel so shitty to play in endgame...if thats what you want fine, but to me it was cancer to experience the three classes I tried. I will never understand how the gameplay of said game can get so much praise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rigman View Post
    What would a third demon hunter spec even look like?
    WoW already has spider-demons, we just need some of them to bite Peter
    Spider-demon transformation that uses glaive as felbow. (DH already has Hedgehog and Bat forms, why not Spider?)



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    Please, there a perfect example of hypocritical thinking:
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    If Tinkers had anything to do with Hunters, but they don’t. Unlike Bards which are linked to Rogues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kranur View Post
    Does WoW really need another class? Like seriously, there are already enough specs and META always kicks in the form of 3-4 fotm specs.
    So what purpose does it server exactly other than bloating? To have a different name and color for another bolt spell?
    Short answer: YES

    Long Answer: A new class is an important factor of a good expansion: Just look what expansion we had without a new class: Cata, WoD, BfA, SL, having not a fresh view of an expansion is a receipe for disaster. A new class allows a player to play the game from a totally different perspective; having to do things differently is always a good, because it brings fresh air into the game; this isn't something you have with shitty class skins or new races; only a new gameplay makes an expansion good, even if you don't immediate play it, you still play with them or against them; and even when the game becomes more stale, you can still quit and begin to play the class itself; even on content you already played. So to come back to the short answer: ABSOLUTELY YES!!!

  16. #16
    I'd say sure..if they put quality work into it and stopped focusing on things like pets and mounts.

    Focus on core game stuff like story, progression, classes, races, and end game.

    They spread themselves too thin by focusing on story, raids, pets, mounts, progression systems, mythic+, etc.

    Pick a couple and do them extrodinarily well.

  17. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    Diablo 3 and WoW aren't even similar games, that wouldn't nearly be the reason why Legion had the popularity it did. Sure there's a bit of a crossover in players but not enough to say a statement like that.
    I wasn't implying that Diablo devs were the reason Legion was popular, just that they (and WoD's truncation) were the reason it had so much content. And that's not exactly a secretive thing - it was acknowledged at the time that a lot of former Diablo 3 devs, most notably John Yang, had joined the WoW team, and we could see that in the cross-pollination of ideas and systems, including M+, world quests, legion invasions, treasure goblins, etc. There are reasons why Legion was often referred to, both here and on reddit, as the Diabloification of WoW.

    Adding a new class is one of the quickest ways to draw people back into the game just to try the class. Class skins wouldn't come close to that if it's solely cosmetic.
    A new class might be an easy draw, but it creates long-lasting upkeep and Blizz has been trying to avoid that for the last several expansions. Hell, even the allied race system was built around reusing models to limit the development time needed. Class skins wouldn't be as much a draw, I agree, but it's an easier thing for them to do and would require significantly less upkeep. Hence why I think that'd be more likely.
    Last edited by logintime; 2022-03-31 at 10:05 PM.

  18. #18
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    Because they’re not trying to and have no plans to.
    If you say so.

  19. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by kranur View Post
    Does WoW really need another class? Like seriously, there are already enough specs and META always kicks in the form of 3-4 fotm specs.
    So what purpose does it server exactly other than bloating? To have a different name and color for another bolt spell?
    Are you short-minded or what? Of course the game needs more classes, and with priority the rest of the missing hero classes, which are a must, given their importance in lore and the fun they can bring... it's hard to imagine how would a bg be with a mixture of dhs, necromancers, gladiators, darkrangers, wardens, tinkers, bards... but what is clear is that it would be incredible? that would be the culmination of wow, why, what it is right now, and as for classes, it is incomplete.

  20. #20
    I would prefer if they do not add new classes. Its a monumental task to balance them as it is. Adding more is not appealing. Make the ones we have the best they can be.
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