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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Yes, minor armor accents like you see on larger dragons such as Alexstraza and Kalecgos;



    Full armor would make zero sense.
    I don’t see Alexstraza wearing any chest pieces like that Dracthyr is with the barber shop armor.

    Nor shoulderpads, belts, or tabards which Dracthyr are already confirmed to be able to wear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Yes, minor armor accents like you see on larger dragons such as Alexstraza and Kalecgos;



    Full armor would make zero sense.


    I mean considering drac'thyr are humanoids, how about these?

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    This thread is a perfect example of the current toxic and entitled player base of this game. Instead of being happy with what they have the only things they can see are what they don't have and will never be satisfied with anything. Would it be so hard to go "New class and race? Thanks Blizz"? Yes, it would be. Instead you have pages after pages of complaining about the new thing you were given that Blizz was under no obligation to give you is not good enough.
    With this line of thinking blizzard could serve you a literal pile of shit as a new class/race and you would be happy for it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Full armor would make zero sense.
    Why though? You keep saying it doesn't make sense but never actually giving a reason. Drac'thyr are humanoid so armor would fit them perfectly fine so your objection makes even less sense for them. Just because Blizzard has never put armor on dragons isn't an argument for it not making sense. It is just an argument for precedent that Blizzard has yet to do so.

    It can't be about where does the armor go when they shapeshift as you gave examples of dragons wearing miscellaneous accessories that "poof" with the shape shifting. Taking it on and off could be an argument but there can be things that help them. So there really is no reason why Dragons can't wear armor. It would make sense for them to do so because Horse armor exists in the lore. It just hasn't been something they ever really needed though with how easily they can be killed or subjugated armor might help them resist.

    As for Drac'thyr there is no reason for them to not wear armor. Other Dragonkin races have been depicted with various levels of armor. Also lets not pretend that their lack of armor has anything to do with logic. It has everything to do with the model and animations. Since they have wings things would need to be custom fitted in order to look good. It is why Blizzard hides the human long braids when wearing a helm for example. Can it be done? Sure. They can just let it clip through and be done with for the sake of options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VinceVega View Post
    it is a dead race for. Always half nude wide-hipped furry dragons is NOT something i need to see constantly while playing games...
    Then don’t, it’s ok. Nobody’s forcing you

    Plenty of people dont play druid for the same reason, it’s fine too. Not everything need to be homogenized in wow. You don’t have to like every class, I’ll actually go as far as saying it’s even better if you don’t like every class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Why though?
    Again, because dragons in WoW don’t wear full armor. Dracthyr are dragons, so they’re following suit. It’s no different than Alexstraza wearing full armor in visage form, and wearing minimal to no armor in dragon form. The exact same applies to Dracthyrs.

    And yeah, from a mechanical standpoint, the armor and weapons would clip like crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Again, because dragons in WoW don’t wear full armor. Dracthyr are dragons, so they’re following suit. It’s no different than Alexstraza wearing full armor in visage form, and wearing minimal to no armor in dragon form. And yeah, from a mechanical standpoint, the armor would clip like crazy.
    That is a fact you can observe and not a reason for why it doesn't make sense. Just because we have only seen one wear armor doesn't mean the rest can't. It just means they haven't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    That is a fact you can observe and not a reason for why it doesn't make sense. Just because we have only seen one wear armor doesn't mean the rest can't. It just means they haven't.
    We’ve seen none wear armor. We saw one get metal plates grafted onto its body because it was being ripped apart from the inside. A dragon wearing a suit of armor with a weapon is ridiculous, and thankfully Blizzard agrees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    We’ve seen none wear armor. We saw one get metal plates grafted onto its body because it was being ripped apart from the inside. A dragon wearing a suit of armor with a weapon is ridiculous, and thankfully Blizzard agrees.
    https://www.wowhead.com/npc=56781/goriona

    I’m convinced Teriz is a troll at this point lmao

    Luckily the Dracthyr are already getting some armor.
    Here’s to hoping blizzard comes to their senses and lets the rest be transmoggable, or let the armor in the barber shop be customizable enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    Yeah, another mount. A mount in lore, but a mount nonetheless. The majority of that armor is for reigns and a saddle.

    Dracthyr aren’t mounts, nor are they based on mounted drakes.


    Luckily the Dracthyr are already getting some armor.
    Here’s to hoping blizzard comes to their senses and lets the rest be transmoggable, or let the armor in the barber shop be customizable enough.
    Come to their senses and make Dracthyr mounts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Yeah, another mount. A mount in lore, but a mount nonetheless. The majority of that armor is for reigns and a saddle.
    But with your previous ruling to be an actual creature they need hit points and can’t be a Hunter pet.

    Come to their senses and make Dracthyr mounts?
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    It goes beyond mechanical, mounts are simply vehicles that a player uses to travel more quickly.
    According to you they already will be with their racial flight so I don’t see why they shouldn’t expand further on the armor the Dracthyr are already getting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    But with your previous ruling to be an actual creature they need hit points and can’t be a Hunter pet.
    The original poster I was responding to didn’t post Giorona, but fine, there are creatures in WoW that are mounts for certain characters. Whoop dee do. The point still stands; a good portion of the armor on that dragon is reigns and a saddle, not a suit of armor or gear that a player character would wear. Even that armor that Giorona is wearing isn’t full armor.

    According to you they already will be with their racial flight so I don’t see why they shouldn’t expand further on the armor the Dracthyr are already getting.
    Wth are you even talking about?

    Look there’s there’s plenty of other MMOs where reptile people wear full armor and swing weapons. Just go play that. You’ll be a lot happier there than waiting for Blizzard to give you something they’re not going to give.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    We’ve seen none wear armor. We saw one get metal plates grafted onto its body because it was being ripped apart from the inside. A dragon wearing a suit of armor with a weapon is ridiculous, and thankfully Blizzard agrees.
    Deathwing is still wearing armor. Don't move the goal posts to how they wear armor. You've also yet to say why a dragon wearing armor makes no sense. Why can't you explain that part? Blizzard doesn't agree with you about it being ridiculous though because they have depicted dragons, as mounts, wearing armor. More then is required put a saddle on them.

    Why is a dragon wearing a suit of armor ridiculous? You keep making statements with out actually explaining the reasoning. Or is your only objection for why it is ridiculous because it hasn't been done before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Look there’s there’s plenty of other MMOs where reptile people wear full armor and swing weapons. Just go play that. You’ll be a lot happier there than waiting for Blizzard to give you something they’re not going to give.
    This makes your entire argument even more ridiculous. The dragons you keep using as examples of not wearing armor are not the same dragons we are getting as a playable race in WoW. Dragons that are similar are Dragonkin which are depicted wearing armor similar to what players can wear. So you just defeated your entire objection with your own logic. Lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Deathwing is still wearing armor.
    Honest question; Is Deathwing wearing plates on his body and jaw for the same reason a Stormwind knight is wearing a suit of plate armor, or a Rogue is wearing leather armor?

    This makes your entire argument even more ridiculous. The dragons you keep using as examples of not wearing armor are not the same dragons we are getting as a playable race in WoW.
    Uh, yes we are, simply standing on their hind legs instead of being on all fours.

    Dragons that are similar are Dragonkin which are depicted wearing armor similar to what players can wear. So you just defeated your entire objection with your own logic. Lmao.
    What Dragonkin are you talking about?

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    This whole armor debate is honestly baffling to me. Don't want armor? Don't mog any. Wow!

    Dracthyr should show their tier sets in dragon form, or at least as many of their 3D components as possible. Simple as.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Honest question; Is Deathwing wearing plates on his body and jaw for the same reason a Stormwind knight is wearing a suit of plate armor, or a Rogue is wearing leather armor?
    Yep. For protection. We pry plates off of him to weaken him but it doesn't cause him to die. It still took the combined powers of the other Aspects and the stolen Dragon Soul to defeat him.

    Uh, yes we are, simply standing on their hind legs instead of being on all fours.
    Incorrect. A Drac'thyr on all fours looks nothing like a Dragon. As for the Dragonkin there is the Dragonspawn, the Drakonid, and the Dragonman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Yep. For protection.
    LoL! Okay....

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    Quote Originally Posted by elderu View Post


    Just in case anyone was curious how the un-edited blackscaled Dracthyr used in the sample looked in this gear, seeing as it's pretty reminiscent of Deathwing.

    edit: Without the helmet!

    Replace helmet with Jaw of Repudiation and you have DW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Well yeah, because mounts aren't the actual creatures they're designed after, they're vehicles. Thus they're going to have armor for saddles and other junk.

    Drachthyr and the dragons they're designed after are not mounts.
    Can I call you Mr. Fantastic? Because that is some top tier stretching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Yep. For protection. We pry plates off of him to weaken him but it doesn't cause him to die.
    Actually, no.

    He's wearing that armour - by which I mean it's literally bolted into his flesh - because without it, his corrupted body couldn't contain his power. It would burst out like lava from a volcano, as demonstrated when we tear the plates from his back. He's literally bleeding magma, and the plates bolted into his flesh was the only thing keeping him together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mic_128 View Post
    Actually, no.

    He's wearing that armour - by which I mean it's literally bolted into his flesh - because without it, his corrupted body couldn't contain his power. It would burst out like lava from a volcano, as demonstrated when we tear the plates from his back. He's literally bleeding magma, and the plates bolted into his flesh was the only thing keeping him together.
    Armour is armour. You can argue the details all you want - it doesn't change the fact that Deathwing is the most iconic dragon in this franchise and he's armoured.

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