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While ppl criticize you, i personally find this part of classics versions the best. It makes distributing loot so much simpler when there is clear priority and theres no bad feelings too, as if you join a guild and you know you are bottom of priority, it is something you will find out in advance, not after you have committed time into said guild.
Unfortunately I had to. Call me old-fashioned but I had no idea what a simple question can make. As I tried to explain earlier and most of the poeple here chose to ignore is that I really don't want to do hardcore stuff. I simply seek something that would say to me: Okey, this item is good for these classes, ex: mage, lock, ele shaman. The biggest boost is for warlock since the class furthermore buffs the entire raid (speaking about demo). Should we give this item to the warlock then? Yes? No? Is the player pro-active? Is the player doing something more than just show up on the raid and than leaves? Does the player constantly makes stupid mistakes? Is the player toxic? If yes - fuck it and we give it to mage. That item is not worthy of that kind of player who only complains, etc.
Instead of that majority of people here understood it as if I am some kind of turd who wants to ruin the WoW itself and want to make everyone feel miserable because of me they would have to grind and not enjoy the game.
Honestly I am here just for the comments. I don't really care anymore. I will find another way.
BTW it's the same as if someone would cry on people who buys iPhones because they are overpriced, shit, bad battery life, bad everything. Those people should be buying some cheap shits instead. When infact those people are just not willing to pay more money or they simply don't have that kind of money and that is why they whine.
We want to distribute items as we see fit. It is noone else business. There is more than enough guilds who are playing casual and running group loot or simple epgp/dkp. You can join there, or create your own guild a play as you want.
And honestly being called toxic by a toxic cunt is always hilarious.
If you are caster heavy, then funnel high SP gear to your most reliable/dedicated demo lock as the spellpower buff they bring benefits everyone. Other than that, just spread it around. Maybe have everyone submit their BiS list, and then assign the prio list for every item on the loot table.
Then you really don't need a spreadsheet for it in the first place.
Why are you running with toxic people, and maybe they're toxic because you're giving their gear away.Is the player toxic? If yes - fuck it and we give it to mage.
Wrath still suffers from some of the classic itemization problems. You're gonna run in to issues where player A is better but has a 226 and player B isn't bad and has a 219. You can argue who is most deserving for days.
The most successful, hardcore, Cutting-Edge for multiple expansions guild I was ever in...used /roll for loot distribution. And it was the best system I saw in the 3-4 guilds I was with working my way up. No drama, no stopping the raid for 5 minutes every boss, and the guild was solid enough that any min/maxing we lost was made up for by the extra pulls we got in.
Just pick a simple loot system and do it.
Last edited by garicasha; 2022-09-21 at 11:04 AM.
Raid bosses will always be very similar so long as encounter design requires DPS to always be pumping 100%.
I think you and many others in this thread simply lack perspective on this one or are old frustrated boomers that are mad classic didn't pan out to their ideals XD.
Some people are optimizing so much and doing their own little speedruns even if it's not on world first level exactly because the content is so easy, just to put up some challenge.
And as long as everyone in the raid team is okay with that I don't see any harm in it, let people play how they want.
Last edited by Caprias; 2022-09-21 at 11:24 AM.
This may not be exactly what you are looking for, but its the closest I’ve seen so far. You could use it to make a loot prio sheet (or use thats my bis). https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=923531049
Yeah, I saw it before. But thanks anyway
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I guess someone is mad. That was fun here. Atleast I know I won't be using this forum in the future since most of the people here is retarded.
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all you need to know is: Torch to your Disc Priest first, 1 of your pally healers second (the one not getting valanyr), and let the rest arm wrestle for it. Nothing else matters
This statement does not really jive with your OP. Either you want (need) input from others or you know what you are doing and don't need input. Which is it? I understand why you want to use someone else's work (you said the reason is because you are lazy), but i think others in this thread have done a better job of pointing out that this sort of laziness and ignorance disqualifies you from being in a position of deciding loot or loot systems for other raiders in the first place.
I hope you understand that there is also the underlying issue that these systems are considered by some to be inherently unfair and inferior to other systems such as Need>greed, GDKP, MO>OS, Soft reserve, or Personal Loot. It's also very possible that responders in this thread include people who have been burned or suffered from poorly implemented min/max loot councils/loot distribution lists, so it is perfectly understandable why there have been emotional responses.
Personally, I wouldn't want to raid under a loot council, especially one led by someone such as yourself who seems to be willing to blindly (and in your own words, lazily) follow the advice of strangers and doesn't seem to have put in the work to make sure they are formulating and implementing a loot system that is transparent, equitable, and fun.
The toxic name-calling and hyperbolic profanity are the final nails in the coffin. I reported this thread as well, for that very reason.
Last edited by Dinousek; 2022-09-21 at 08:57 PM.
You are simply dumb. I can't say anything else. I stated multiple times that I would definitely not follow any kind of spreadsheets. The list should act only as some kind of help for me to see: AGAIN AS I STATED BEFORE! - "I simply seek something that would say to me: Okey, this item is good for these classes, ex: mage, lock, ele shaman. The biggest boost is for warlock since the class furthermore buffs the entire raid (speaking about demo)."
I HAVE NEVER EVER SAID I would use it the way you said it. I just want to see what are the suggestions. I won't follow it. I JUST WANT TO SEE OTHERS OPINION.
Man I seriously don't understand how dumb can you actually be. You are either blind, ignorant, or typical troll on the internet. I just wish there was an option to delete the thread or lock it so no more retards would write here.