Raid Wide Totems

[Prefix]

I've heard a lot of people mentioning Raid Wide Totems.
Anyone got some links to blue posts or patch notes about this matter?

It got me a little bit concerned, if they do it with ALL totems.
I really really really don't want my tranquil air totem to be raid wide, that would suck.

[Xs]

read more patch notes
Tranquil air has been removed
and its all totems appart from the talented ones I think

http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=10360.0

[Prefix]

I must be very blind, I can't find it in any patch notes.

Please be so kind and copy paste the part where it says "Totems is raid wide".
I've searched through it all.

[pilch]

I really really really don't want my tranquil air totem to be raid wide, that would suck.

er, why?

[Prefix]

er, why?

Why would you want to lower the threat level of your tanks?

[Guran]

Why would you want to lower the threat level of your tanks?

30y range, your heals have 40y. Positioning FTW

[Prefix]

Really beyond my point. There are several fights where you can't go that far away, Illidan is one that springs to mind. Not that I use tranquil air totem often, but it happens.

Since it's removed in WOTLK, tranquil air discussion is rather useless.

But to be back on topic, I still haven't found where they say totems will be raid wide.

[Alltat]

read more patch notes
Tranquil air has been removed
and its all totems appart from the talented ones I think

http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=10360.0

The posted link has no mention of totems being raid wide. It says paladin auras are now raid wide, but nothing about totems beyond them being in the physical school.

[Feila]

Worldwide Invitational Information (June 28-29 2008)

Totems will now effect all nearby raid members instead of being confined to party members.

with the link

grrr EDIT:

no link but its there trust me :>

[Prefix]

Worldwide Invitational Information (June 28-29 2008)

with the link

grrr EDIT:

no link but its there trust me :>

Hmm. No link?
Where did you read it?

[Gilead]

Yes they will be raid wide.

Proof?
I just said they will (and more will say the same) that should be enough.

[topfer]

dude prefix you're being kind of douchy considering it took me about 15 seconds to dig it up on google.

http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/06/28...wow-dev-panel/

[Feila]

link is restricted but its from the wotlkwiki page

littlebit search and you'll find it (under the shaman changes)

long days ago on mmo-champions there was a WWI Pic with the content but I'm to lazy to search :P

Edit: See above X.x

[Prefix]

Yeah call me a douche fine, but I have yet to find it on anything OFFICIAL!
wotlk wiki is FAR from offical stuff.

I found a handfull of links on google when searching, yes, but nothing I wall qualify as offical and remotely believable.

Instead of calling me a douche for trying to get information from a more trusted source, such as a blue post or offical patch notes, you could just ignore it topfer.

If it's burried in some closed beta/alpha/dev forum, fine, nothing we can do will have to wait.
If it's something some blizzard employee said doing WWII, fine then SAY that instead of telling me to READ something non existant.

In case of the latter, I will just have to remain sceptical to hearsay.

No reason to get hostile for me trying to dig up official words of a rather big and important change in mechanics of a class.

[Instant]

6. Upcoming Character Class Changes
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...dex/wrath.html

* Druids: Tangling Roots: Now usable indoors
- Items, etc.: Potions, on-hit effects, and items will now work in forms
- New forms: Possible new dire bear form introduced and introduction of the new dire cat form
- Talent Trees: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/.../talents2.html

* Hunters: Steady Shot: Will no longer clip auto-shot
- Pets: Skill points are being done away with!!! Pets will now have talent trees, broken into Utility, Tanking, and DPS!!!
- Cornered: New pet ability whereby the pet does 20% more damage when at 20% health
- New pets will be added!
- Talent Trees: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/.../talents2.html

* Mages: Mage Armor: Being tweaked to reduce harmful debuff durations
- Frostfire Bolt: 530 mana, 3 second cast time; 722 - 883 fire damage (unless the target is more susceptible to frost, in which case the damage will switch); slows target speed by 40%; does an additional 90 fire damage over 9 seconds
- Talent Trees: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/.../talents2.html

* Paladins: Retribution itemization moving toward Warrior/DK itemization
- Hand of Purity: described as a "reactive healing spell" - more info needed
- Short-term blessings will no longer overwrite long-term blessings
- Blessings of Freedom and Protection will be renamed and moved to another category
- Talent Trees: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/.../talents2.html

* Priests:
- Talent Trees: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/.../talents2.html

* Rogues: Fan of Knives: AoE burst damage, 1 minute cooldown, attack all enemies in a radius
- Sap: Will now be able to affect more targets, including humanoids, beasts, dragonkin, and demons
- Dagger Spec to be improved
- Talent Trees: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/.../talents2.html

* Shaman: Strength of Earth and Grace of Air to be merged!
- Totems: Will now affect the entire raid! Cannot be counterspelled!
- Rockbiter: Removed - replaced with Earthliving - a +heal weapon enchant
- Flametongue: will give spell damage
- Frostbrand: with have a more reliable snare now
- Hex: CROWD CONTROL: Used primarily for emergencies, shaman will be able to turn the target into a frog (some sources say the critter will be random, however); Will hexed, the player moves at 75% reduced speed, has control of their body, but cannot attack or cast spells; 8-10 second duration
- Windfury: changed to a buff - will now be usable in bear form or with poisons (druids and rogues there, people :P)
- Shown during the WWI to be able to summon Spirit Wolves!!!
- Talent Trees: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/.../talents2.html

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...sid=1&pageNo=1

Is that enough? It was told on class panel at WII.

Btw, what's the point of sig with your char stats, if all them are with buffs?

[Styreta]

tank threat generation has been upped by about 45% and things like Salvation / Tranquil air removed and integrated into DPS class talents.

CBA finding the source, but put your head to rest in regards to tranq airing tanks with the new raid wide totems.

The only thing you should be worried about now is theres a point in bringing more then 2 shamans to a raid if they can supply all the totems youd ever need.

[Amgyn]

The only thing you should be worried about now is theres a point in bringing more then 2 shamans to a raid if they can supply all the totems youd ever need.

only 2 shaman would be enough :-/

[Deleted]

Totems aren't the only thing.
Unleashed Rage is now raid wide, Elemental Oath still seems to be party only. And resto get a number of really nice tools (even though they might have to lay off CH a bit to make use of it)

[Guran]

only 2 shaman would be enough :-/

3 actually.
Enh for imp WF totem, Ele for ToW and Resto for imp. Mana Spring :P
Not to mention that Enhancement will only have 20y range on their totems, making it rather hard for ranged classes to get the effects.

[Instant]

There is still no info about Mana Tide totem. So it can be raid wide aswell, which can be handy because of potion sickness.