Even more importantly, just because you care about such things doesn't mean that the poster or his guild gives a crap about them so stop judging him on them.Originally Posted by Marithas
Even more importantly, just because you care about such things doesn't mean that the poster or his guild gives a crap about them so stop judging him on them.Originally Posted by Marithas
"The round, metal cooking utensil referring to the larger, cookware customarily used for, but not limited to, stews, as being of a dark shade or possibly of African descent." ~~ Fixed for now. But keep in mind any one of the words used in that fix may become politically incorrect or offensive at any moment for any reason. Further amendments may be required to prevent frivolous lawsuits in the future.
Apparently you haven't kept up with the blue posts about this very aspect of our T8 set bonus. It is implied as part of SoR. Its an added bonus to SoR and then 3 seconds after that. It makes every SoR have more block value added to it.Originally Posted by slappies
"The round, metal cooking utensil referring to the larger, cookware customarily used for, but not limited to, stews, as being of a dark shade or possibly of African descent." ~~ Fixed for now. But keep in mind any one of the words used in that fix may become politically incorrect or offensive at any moment for any reason. Further amendments may be required to prevent frivolous lawsuits in the future.
What you fail to notice is that you are already going to hit the avoidance soft cap with T8 in a block value set. Getting avoidance soft capped will be easy to do. You can do so while still maximizing block. So far, I have seen 2 pieces of T8.5 that isn't best in slot. I know we don't have all gear out, but assuming nothing changes it will come down to head and chest as your off slot options. The heads are actually very close (the tier and the non tier) which cause the chest to be your off option.Originally Posted by Draco cracona
"The round, metal cooking utensil referring to the larger, cookware customarily used for, but not limited to, stews, as being of a dark shade or possibly of African descent." ~~ Fixed for now. But keep in mind any one of the words used in that fix may become politically incorrect or offensive at any moment for any reason. Further amendments may be required to prevent frivolous lawsuits in the future.
Funny. You see the problem is. Rather you like to admit it or not, when it comes to paladins I'm normally right on. I can't help people like you are clueless or still want to live in TBC. That is your problem not mine.Originally Posted by Draco cracona
I have already mentioned that anything that allows us to do more damage and cause more threat while adding to our mitigation is good. Our only off slot options where the t8.5 is not currently best in slot is head and chest. The chest is the best off slot option leaving you with the helm. Right now the choice really comes down to http://ptr.wowhead.com/?item=46175 vs http://ptr.wowhead.com/?item=45502. The T8.5 has better over all avoidance while allowing you to keep the set bonus.
So, the set bonus will probably default. The very fact that I'm supporting a set bonus means its pretty damn good because I don't get tier gear simply because it is tier.
Granted, we have probably not seen all the loot in Uludar which means that there might be some other off slot items where the T8.5 doesn't come out ahead and if that is the case I will reconsider my stance.
"The round, metal cooking utensil referring to the larger, cookware customarily used for, but not limited to, stews, as being of a dark shade or possibly of African descent." ~~ Fixed for now. But keep in mind any one of the words used in that fix may become politically incorrect or offensive at any moment for any reason. Further amendments may be required to prevent frivolous lawsuits in the future.
This is true to an extent. It really comes down to how many adds you are tanking at at given time. In 3.1, 4 will be our maximum number to tank without the dps ever coming close. Hammer of Righteousness does a lot more for our ability to tank multiple mobs than consecration does. Also, when the mobs are undead we come out ahead because of holy wrath. When they are not undead and there is more than 4 then a warrior can come out ahead of us. However, I have seen so many warriors fail at add tanking its not even funny.Originally Posted by Draco cracona
"The round, metal cooking utensil referring to the larger, cookware customarily used for, but not limited to, stews, as being of a dark shade or possibly of African descent." ~~ Fixed for now. But keep in mind any one of the words used in that fix may become politically incorrect or offensive at any moment for any reason. Further amendments may be required to prevent frivolous lawsuits in the future.
Those 239 off set pieces come from HARD MODES. If you think you are going to walk into Uludar and just walk right over HARD MODES then good luck with that. Chances are we will need 226 gear to get 239 gear. Granted, once a guild has hard modes on farm then of course a 239 is going to beat a 226 regardless of any of the set bonuses on tier (assuming that both are itemized appropriately).Originally Posted by Katie
"The round, metal cooking utensil referring to the larger, cookware customarily used for, but not limited to, stews, as being of a dark shade or possibly of African descent." ~~ Fixed for now. But keep in mind any one of the words used in that fix may become politically incorrect or offensive at any moment for any reason. Further amendments may be required to prevent frivolous lawsuits in the future.
yea, but how often are you going to block it with a 3 second uptime?Originally Posted by Daez
Logic would dictate half the time, but who knows how if that will hold true.
Warrior, DK, and Druid T4 give definitive buffs to Mitigation. Ours is speculative at best because yea you might get a block at the same time but there is no guarantee. On one boss fight you might block with it up every time, on the next you might bliock without it ever being up.
An analysis of what BV gear there is at BiS level is currently meaningless IMO - we've seen six plate pieces of 236 gear, pretty sure there'll be a lot more up there to beat the tier gear tbh, especially as the two tanking items are both avoidance heavy and the next lowest ilevel items listed are from 10 man hard, badges, 25man trash and normal modes - hard mode loot is likely to beat the tier gear generally IMO tbh. As for getting tier gear to gear up for hard modes, I just don't think we'd be keeping the set items long enough relative to other classes for it to be worth going for tier bonuses. I could be completely wrong on that ofc, but we'll see.
And Daez - the comment regarding you was meant jokingly, although you've shown a complete lack of knowledge in other threads, specifically about rotations.
Your opinion of BiS gear is seriously different than my opinion of BiS gear, since you're still hung up on stacking block rating ridden gear. I have 53 Block rating in my current gear, thats 28 from my maly neck and 25 from Bindings of the Hapless Prey, with the amount of avoidance i carry I reach 102.4% while fully raid buffed in Naxx level gear. There is no way in hell I'm equipping any gear with block rating on it until they either make it worth something to stack beyond 102.4%, or the item is SO good, I can equip it anyway and not worry about the wasted item budget spent on a worthless stat.Originally Posted by Daez
T8 isnt terribly itemized, it could be better, like replacing the block rating on helm and shoulders with a real stat, but all around its decent. But, this is what it comes down to, there are 2 items off Algalon the Observer, Gloves and Leggings, that are BiS for all 3 plate wearing tanks, period. If your guild can kill Algalon then there is no way to get our 4 piece bonus, prior to killing him, however, our T8 gloves and leggings are 2nd BiS and will suffice until you get your drops. The set bonus is nice, it will add ~500 damage to a ShoR, and considering the gear isnt that bad, its worth getting til you down Algalon.
P.S. For the love of god, learn how to multi-quote, there's gotta be a forum rule against 5 back to back posts.
Also, it occurred to me just recently, that because the 2 pieces off Algalon are BiS for all 3 plate wearing tanks, this means we get to sacrifice a mediocre 4pc for better gear. War/DK have to sacrifice a 4pc that's worth a damn, and if they don't we'll be better tanks than they are because of it.
i like this optimistic viewOriginally Posted by Bluerelic