Trying this new spec in 3.1.0, suggestions please.

[rillak]

Made up a new spec for 3.1, would be awesome if you could point out some stuff that might be better or just rate the spec!

http://ptr.wowhead.com/?talent=sxV0LZVZVfbx0IuhdIfsu

Thanks in advance!

[Zephyr]

Don't understand the 14 points in Holy at all...

[Bethell]

Possibly the worst thing I've seen all week.

[rillak]

It's a pure PvE spec, and intellect is for a higher mana pool (O'rly) and illumination is for mana regeneration when you crit with the instant FoLs etc that you might need to throw out while doing instances.

[fxcw]

I haven't played ret in a long time, will be my second spec in 3.1, but I really do not see the point in the holy points.

I do not think that the point about mana pool is a valid one, I have not heard the ret pallies in our guild complain and I would not have thought it would be a problem at all in a raid environment.

[rillak]

Meh, what's your suggestions then? The PvP talents in prot?

[Jerion]

reduced pushback for casting heals for pve? pretty much worthless for ret.
5/5 in divine intellect will get you a tiny bit more than 1 crusader strike, not worth 5 points.
You shouldn't need illumination at all as ret.

Imo put 2/2 in PoJ because it's amazing, and since you were bringing up heroics, vindication will make the trash 20% faster...

There are alot of extra points for ret now, but I really think there are better places to put them then where you decided to.

[rillak]

After putting all the nessecery talents in retri, and the 5/5 in Divine Strength, I dunno where to spend the rest.

[iktankniet]

this:
http://ptr.wowhead.com/?talent=sZEMzMbZVfbxbIuhdIfsu

now i dont know how its gonna be to use Dsac, but its the best option we have.

or a selfish build:
http://ptr.wowhead.com/?talent=sZEZVfrtrIuGdIfsu

[rillak]

Okay, thanks.

[gressx]

would suggest this one:

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...0&version=9767

if mana should really be a problem of yours, well, i guess those 5 points in the holy tree won't help that much as it was already said above.

[olovelyone]

This is the 3.1 Setup you'll want.

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...5&version=9757

Due to the increasingly large amount of raid damage in Ulduar, plus our inherent self-damaging traits from SoB/SoM, the point of this build is the survivability 2/2 Divine Guardian grants. You'll basically be keeping 100% uptime on Sacred Shield, thus helping you stay alive. A dead DPS does 0 DPS.

[Anduril]

^ The only thing I do not like about that spec is the 4 points in toughness, but they need to be dumped somewhere in the Prot tree.