1. #4561
    the wrong boot enchant?
    yeah, i know...i dont have it either, but thats just because i am lazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agathon View Post
    the wrong boot enchant?
    yeah, i know...i dont have it either, but thats just because i am lazy.
    Assuming my german is up to snuff, I think you're fine. Only thing I'd like to point out is that, as far as dps goes, at least one of the points in arts of sacrifice would be better placed in eye for an eye.
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    in the sig, but on russian realms -_-
    soooo, http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Эн/advanced

    P.S.: Talents is ugly, i know.. But i'm so lazy...
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    -1 Boot Enchant
    -1 Gemming for haste (Am I perhaps missing something huge?)
    -1 Wrong bracer enchant

    7/10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apalis View Post
    -1 Boot Enchant
    -1 Gemming for haste (Am I perhaps missing something huge?)
    -1 Wrong bracer enchant

    7/10
    very nice, could use some more expertise though
    9/10

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...xerif/advanced
    picked up legs off al'akir today, having a big problem with all this expertise gear..

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    I can't really work it any lower and still be hit capped without sacrificing stronger stats, so it is still more beneficial to use GoSoT :|

    Probably shouldn't be gemming for the helm socket bonus, but should be gemming for chest socket bonus.

    Looks pretty solid otherwise.

    8.5/10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apalis View Post
    I can't really work it any lower and still be hit capped without sacrificing stronger stats, so it is still more beneficial to use GoSoT :|

    Probably shouldn't be gemming for the helm socket bonus, but should be gemming for chest socket bonus.

    Looks pretty solid otherwise.

    8.5/10
    Looks pretty solid, could change the hit on your relic to haste since your farther over the cap, but that's about all I saw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredzilla View Post
    Let's start this up again imo
    Was wondering when someone was gonna resurrect this thread. I'm holy now so no need to rate.
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    I know, in most spreadsheets crit has bigger value than haste, but difference is not that big, and i personally like haste.
    Thanks for pointing to WotLK enchants, missed it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xerif View Post
    picked up legs off al'akir today, having a big problem with all this expertise gear..
    Same problem here, so my glyph is worth only of 7 used expertise (19 unbuffed), but i think it'll be fixed when i switch my legs and gloves to t11 in 4.0.6
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    Didn't really get your name, above, but looks OK

    eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/nordrassil/honeydove/simple xD

    PS: This is on my second account, my other got banned =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blisz View Post
    destroy me
    -1 Under Hit Cap
    -1 Wrong Meta
    -1 Wrong boot enchant
    -1 Wrong bracer enchant
    -1 two WoTLK Gems

    5/10

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    8/10

    could do a better job on reforging and get closer towards hit cap
    i hate that stupid shitty tank helm, get your tier helm ^__^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Igra View Post
    8/10

    could do a better job on reforging and get closer towards hit cap
    i hate that stupid shitty tank helm, get your tier helm ^__^
    I am wondering where you see that I can get closer without sacrificing higher weighing stats, such as haste or crit (perhaps it is that I just awoke, but I don't see it). Even if I am a little over I think the mastery loss is better than losing the other stats to get closer for the sake of being close. I am working on my Helm, only so much I can do :|

    And as for you:

    Almost everything looks good (Except for that missing minor glyph), but your reforging confuses me. Why are you reforging Haste -> Hit when it would be (according to EJ) currently be better to reforge Mastery to hit as a priority, even if it ends up putting you slightly over cap?

    9/10 unless I am misinformed on reforging.

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    I don't pretend to take a vested interest in other players characters unless they're an app, but for every single upgraded piece I've gotten I have been able to maintain hit no higher than 8.07% and only went to 28 expertise at one point. That in turn leads me to believe that you can get your hit closer to 8% instead of being almost 1/4 of a percent higher than needed.

    As for reforging it doesn't matter what stat anyone takes away and give unless it makes 0 sense such as taking crit and going to mastery. For every item I take haste to hit or expertise that means I have another item I can take mastery to crit or haste. It all balances out in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apalis View Post
    I am wondering where you see that I can get closer without sacrificing higher weighing stats, such as haste or crit (perhaps it is that I just awoke, but I don't see it). Even if I am a little over I think the mastery loss is better than losing the other stats to get closer for the sake of being close. I am working on my Helm, only so much I can do :|

    And as for you:

    Almost everything looks good (Except for that missing minor glyph), but your reforging confuses me. Why are you reforging Haste -> Hit when it would be (according to EJ) currently be better to reforge Mastery to hit as a priority, even if it ends up putting you slightly over cap?

    9/10 unless I am misinformed on reforging.
    http://www.wowreforge.com/Reforge.as...20--20--------
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    And with those changes I lose 1.32% haste, and gain .56% Crit. All to say that I am "closer" to hit and expertise cap? I know modeling is rough, but it doesn't seem worth it either in my head or according to the numbers on EJ.

    This is where my confusion lies, it seems like being closer to hit with my current gear is less theoretical DPS than taking the "being over" and living with it.
    Last edited by Apalis; 2011-02-02 at 06:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apalis View Post
    -1 Under Hit Cap
    -1 Wrong Meta
    -1 Wrong boot enchant
    -1 Wrong bracer enchant
    -1 two WoTLK Gems

    5/10
    Crap, i wrote a long answer but somehow lost it, i'll write a short version.
    You certainly destroyed me :P. I thought 7.98% hit would be okay, but I understand 8.x% is better so i fixed it. The meta, I put that one long ago when the right meta was like 1500g and completely forgot about it. The wrath gems... an honest mistake, I must have put those out of habit of searching for bold cardinal ruby on the AH. And finally the enchants, I felt weird putting the wrath AP enchants because i find it a bit difficult to believe that they are better but if theorycrafting says so, I believe it. Thanks for rating me and pointing out these mistakes. I fixed everything but I still feel far from 10/10, I dont know why, maybe i'm just unhappy with the ret tree in general.

    Any tools to help optimize the reforging? I checked that wowreforge.com site but it wants me to reforge to 1600 hit which is a bit too much.

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    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...smetica/simple

    Ive been on the ptr and I reforged all mys greens stats into mastery. Worth it.

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