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    [Enh] 10-man heroic BiS gear list

    Edit 17.4: Updated rotation with Snaffu's superior one.

    NOTE: If you get lower dps results than listed with the included Rawr sheet please check if your socket bonuses are properly updated in Rawr.

    Here is a 10-man bis list I created, similar in style to EJ bis thread. People can post their findings here and I will update the post accordingly.

    For guidelines on how to post please read EJ thread http://elitistjerks.com/f79/t88300-e...on_3_3_onward/. If you don't know how to post, don't do it at all.

    Simulated dps in EnhSim v1.9.8.6 ~ 11450


    SlotItemGem 1Gem 2Gem 3Enchant
    HeadSanctified Frost Witch's FaceguardRelentless Earthsiege DiamondPrecise Cardinal Ruby-Arcanum of Torment
    NeckPrecious's Putrid CollarPrecise Cardinal Ruby---
    ShouldersSanctified Frost Witch's ShoulderguardsQuick King's Amber--Greater Inscription of the Axe
    BackShawl of Nerubian SilkPrecise Cardinal Ruby--Enchant Cloak - Greater Speed
    ChestSanctified Frost Witch's ChestguardPrecise Cardinal RubyNigthmare Tear-Enchant Chest - Powerful Stats
    WristIcecrown Rampart BracersStark Ametrine--Fur Lining - Attack Power
    HandsHandgrips of Frost and SleetStark AmetrineStark Ametrine-Enchant Gloves - Crusher
    WaistBand of the Night RavenQuick King's AmberQuick King's AmberQuick King's AmberEternal Belt Buckle
    LegsSanctified Frost Witch's War-KiltStark AmetrineQuick King's Amber-Icescale Leg Armor
    FeetWyrmwing TreadsQuick King's AmberStark Ametrine-Enchant Boots - Icewalker
    Finger 1Ashen Band of Endless VengeanceQuick King's Amber--Enchant Ring - Assault
    Finger 2Seal of the Twilight QueenStark Ametrine--Enchant Ring - Assault
    Trinket 1Herkuml War Token----
    Trinket 2Whispering Fanged Skull----
    Main HandPugius, Fist of DefianceStark Ametrine--Berserking
    Off HandGutbusterStark Ametrine--Berserking
    TotemBizuri's Totem of Shattered Ice----


    Race:
    Tauren. This won't be changed.

    Professions used:
    Enchanting and Leatherworking. These won't be changed.

    Race and professions choices are "neutral" to make the list as applicable as possible for different race/profession combinations.

    Glyphs:
    1. Glyph of Stormstrike
    2. Glyph of Feral Spirit
    3. Glyph of Flame Shock

    Ability priority order: (Shamelessly copied from EJ bis thread)
    1. Maelstrom Weapon x 5 stacks - Lightning Bolt
    2. Flame Shock if dots left <= 1
    3. Stormstrike if debuff not active
    4. Lightning Shield if not active
    5. Fire Elemental
    6. Magma Totem if not active
    7. Spirit Wolves
    8. Shamanistic Rage
    9. Earthshock
    10. Stormstrike
    11. Lava Lash
    12. Fire Nova
    13. Magma Totem if ticks left <= 2
    14. Lightning Shield if charges left <= 2

    Talent spec:
    Current max single target dps talent spec

    Rawr sheet:
    Link to RAWR sheet

    EnhSim config:

    Code:
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    config_version         1.9.8.6
    simulation_time         5000
    simulation_time_combatlog    300
    combat_length          7.00
    report_count          80
    threads             1
    combat_length_rng_factor    0.35
    min_lag             230
    max_lag             260
    simulate_mana          1
    cast_sr_on_cooldown       1
    
    ep_precision          2
    ep_base_stat          ap
    ep_ap              80
    ep_crit_rating         40
    ep_hit_rating          40
    ep_expertise          4
    ep_haste_rating         40
    ep_armor_penetration_rating   40
    ep_spellpower          46
    ep_dps             7.5
    ep_mana             600
    ep_spirit            40
    ep_mp5             40
    
    mh_auto_attack         1
    oh_auto_attack         1
    wait_ss_with_wf_cd       0.00
    cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd    0
    use_bloodlust          1
    always_bloodlust_wolves     0
    sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets  0
    cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left    15.0
    cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left  4
    cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active   1
    cast_fs_only_if_dots_left    1
    cast_ls_only_if_charges_left  2
    cast_magma_only_if_ticks_left  2
    cast_sr_only_if_mana_left    1250
    use_mana_potion_if_mana_left  3000
    necrotic_touch         0
    necrotic_touch_heroic      0
    
    rotation_priority_count     14
    rotation_priority1       MW5_LB
    rotation_priority2       FS
    rotation_priority3       SS_0
    rotation_priority4       LS_0
    rotation_priority5       FE
    rotation_priority6       MT_0
    rotation_priority7       SW
    rotation_priority8       SR
    rotation_priority9       ES
    rotation_priority10       SS
    rotation_priority11       LL
    rotation_priority12       FN
    rotation_priority13       MT
    rotation_priority14       LS
    
    aoe_rotation_priority_count   12
    aoe_rotation_priority1     SW
    aoe_rotation_priority2     SR
    aoe_rotation_priority3     SS_0
    aoe_rotation_priority4     MW5_LB
    aoe_rotation_priority5     LS
    aoe_rotation_priority6     FE
    aoe_rotation_priority7     MT
    aoe_rotation_priority8     FS
    aoe_rotation_priority9     ES
    aoe_rotation_priority10     SS
    aoe_rotation_priority11     FN
    aoe_rotation_priority12     LL
    
    fight_name           standard_single_target
    miss              8.00
    dodge              6.50
    glancing            24.00
    armor              10643
    spell_miss           17.00
    nature_resistance        0
    fire_resistance         0
    frost_resistance        0
    arcane_resistance        0
    shadow_resistance        0
    
    additional_targets       0
    additional_target_percent    0.00
    additional_target_level     80
    
    armor_debuff_major       20.0/20.0
    armor_debuff_minor       5.0/5.0
    physical_vulnerability_debuff  4.0/4.0
    melee_haste_buff        20.0/20.0
    melee_crit_chance_buff     5.0/5.0
    attack_power_buff_flat     687/687
    attack_power_buff_multiplier  0/99.7
    spell_haste_buff        5.0/5.0
    spell_crit_chance_buff     5.0/5.0
    spell_crit_chance_debuff    5.0/5.0
    spell_damage_debuff       13.0/13.0
    spellpower_buff         280/280
    spell_hit_chance_debuff     3.0/3.0
    haste_buff           3.0/3.0
    percentage_damage_increase   3.0/3.0
    crit_chance_debuff       3.0/3.0
    stat_multiplier         10.0/10.0
    stat_add_buff          51/51
    agi_and_strength_buff      178/178
    intellect_buff         60/60
    
    replenishment          1
    water_shield          0
    mana_spring_totem        0
    blessing_of_wisdom       1
    judgement_of_wisdom       1
    mixology            0
    
    flask_elixir          flask_of_endless_rage
    guardian_elixir         -
    potion             potion_of_speed
    food              fish_feast
    
    ###############################################################################
    ### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
    ### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon     ###
    ###############################################################################
    
    race              tauren
    mh_speed            2.6
    oh_speed            2.6
    mh_dps             239.0
    oh_dps             226.5
    mh_crit             48.56
    oh_crit             48.56
    mh_hit             15.58
    oh_hit             15.58
    mh_expertise_rating       143
    oh_expertise_rating       143
    ap               5329
    melee_haste           29.54
    armor_penetration        4.00
    str               145
    agi               1576
    int               723
    spi               165
    spellpower           1599
    spell_crit           33.26
    spell_hit            19.48
    spell_haste           22.72
    max_mana            14961
    mp5               0
    
    mh_imbue            windfury
    oh_imbue            flametongue
    
    mh_enchant           berserking
    oh_enchant           berserking
    
    mh_weapon            fist
    oh_weapon            -
    
    trinket1            herkuml_war_token
    trinket2            whispering_fanged_skull_heroic
    
    totem              bizuris_totem_of_shattered_ice
    
    set_bonus1           t10_battlegear_4
    set_bonus2           -
    set_bonus3           -
    
    metagem             relentless_earthsiege_diamond
    
    gloves_enchant         -
    cloak_enchant          -
    ring_proc            ashen_verdict
    
    glyph_major1          feral_spirit
    glyph_major2          flame_shock
    glyph_major3          stormstrike
    
    glyph_minor1          -
    glyph_minor2          -
    glyph_minor3          -
    
    ancestral_knowledge       2/5
    improved_shields        3/3
    mental_dexterity        3/3
    shamanistic_focus        0/1
    flurry             5/5
    elemental_weapons        3/3
    unleashed_rage         3/3
    weapon_mastery         3/3
    dual_wield_specialization    3/3
    mental_quickness        3/3
    improved_stormstrike      0/2
    static_shock          3/3
    maelstrom_weapon        5/5
    
    convection           0/5
    concussion           5/5
    call_of_flame          3/3
    elemental_devastation      3/3
    reverberation          1/5
    elemental_focus         0/1
    elemental_fury         5/5
    improved_fire_nova       2/2
    call_of_thunder         0/1
    unrelenting_storm        0/3
    elemental_precision       0/3
    lightning_mastery        0/5
    elemental_oath         0/2
    lightning_overload       0/5
    lava_flows           0/3
    storm_earth_and_fire      0/3
    shamanism            0/5
    Output:

    Code:
    EnhSim version 1.9.8.6
    
    ................................................................................
    
    MH:
    miss        860547     5.44%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    glancing      3798462    23.99%
    hit         906964     5.73%
    crit        10264913    64.84%
    average ap     9618.92    
    clip        0       0.00%
    
    MH Windfury:
    procs/hits     13.62%
    procs/swings    12.96%
    miss        0       0.00%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    hit         1479848    32.19%
    crit        3116768    67.81%
    average ap     9617.15    
    
    MH Storsmtrike:
    miss        0       0.00%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    hit         610457     32.13%
    crit        1289577    67.87%
    average ap     9584.53    
    
    OH:
    miss        860774     5.44%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    glancing      3798105    23.99%
    hit         908032     5.74%
    crit        10263973    64.84%
    average ap     9595.39    
    clip        0       0.00%
    
    OH Flametongue:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         9881122    52.56%
    crit        8916935    47.44%
    average sp     3480.11    
    
    OH Stormstrike:
    miss        0       0.00%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    hit         611299     32.17%
    crit        1288735    67.83%
    average ap     9638.69    
    
    Earth Shock:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         608258     52.56%
    crit        549002     47.44%
    average sp     3477.23    
    
    Flame Shock:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         677028     52.58%
    crit        610495     47.42%
    average sp     3481.75    
    dots hit      3890993    52.54%
    dots crit      3515206    47.46%
    average dot sp   3481.67    
    
    Lava Lash:
    miss        0       0.00%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    hit         620292     32.17%
    crit        1307621    67.83%
    average ap     9585.04    
    
    Lightning Bolt:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         1602624    52.55%
    crit        1446836    47.45%
    average sp     3517.17    
    
    Fire Nova:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         787569     52.51%
    crit        712418     47.49%
    average sp     3475.44    
    
    Lightning Shield:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         2742039    100.00%
    crit        0       0.00%
    average sp     3495.70    
    
    Spirit Wolves:
    miss        0       0.00%
    dodge        0       0.00%
    glancing      1911568    23.96%
    hit         5147766    64.53%
    crit        917918     11.51%
    average ap     9663.12    
    
    Magma Totem:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         3050568    52.57%
    crit        2752017    47.43%
    average sp     3484.49    
    
    Fire Elemental Melee:
    miss        109564     7.99%
    dodge        58322     4.25%
    glancing      329136     23.99%
    hit         833731     60.77%
    crit        41247     3.01%
    
    Fire Elemental Fire Shield:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         1561598    92.02%
    crit        135446     7.98%
    
    Fire Elemental Fire Nova:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         630947     91.97%
    crit        55053     8.03%
    
    Fire Elemental Fire Blast:
    miss        0       0.00%
    hit         651307     92.05%
    crit        56223     7.95%
    
    Fire Elemental stats:
    average ap     9725.12    
    average sp     3518.03    
    MPS         65.55     
    MPCooldown     7866.60    
    Out of mana time  0.00%
    MRPCooldown     2820.54    
    MRPS        23.62     
    
    Fire Elemental   MRPS without overregen
    mana regen     3.31   14.08%
    judgement of wisdom 20.20   85.92%
    
    
    Maelstrom Weapon:
    PPM         58.17
    efficiency     87.37%
    
    flurry uptime         97.35%
    unleashed rage uptime     100.00%
    elemental devastation uptime  90.79%
    mh enchant uptime       54.44%
    oh enchant uptime       49.86%
    stormstrike debuff uptime   84.77%
    flame shock uptime       86.98%
    lightning shield uptime    96.82%
    magma totem uptime       65.58%
    fire elemental uptime     28.58%
    
    trinket2 uptime        32.57%
    totem uptime          100.00%
    ring proc uptime        16.53%
    
    
    Set bonus uptimes:
    Frost Witch's Battlegear 2 piece    25.28%
    Frost Witch's Battlegear 4 piece    23.66%
    
              MRPS without overregen
    mana regen     0.00   0.00%
    mp5         16.66   4.98%
    replenishment    41.01   12.26%
    unrelenting storm  0.00   0.00%
    judgement of wisdom 104.37  31.21%
    shamanistic rage  172.38  51.55%
    mana potion     0.00   0.00%
    misc        0.00   0.00%
    stormstrike     0.00   0.00%
    
              DPS         PPM    MPS
    white        3999.21  34.93%  105.54
    windfury      1313.67  11.47%  7.66
    flametongue     966.28  8.44%   62.66
    stormstrike     528.34  4.61%   6.33   34.90   10.12%
    lava lash      390.79  3.41%   6.43   17.70   5.13%
    magma totem     471.91  4.12%   2.08   38.60   11.19%
    earth shock     336.47  2.94%   3.86   47.82   13.86%
    flame shock     683.29  5.97%   4.29   50.25   14.57%
    lightning bolt   1291.54  11.28%  10.16   74.47   21.59%
    fire nova      312.39  2.73%   5.00   75.76   21.96%
    lightning shield  334.19  2.92%   1.16   0.00   0.00%
    spirit wolves    362.77  3.17%   0.39   3.18   0.92%
    fire elemental   459.36  4.01%   0.14   2.26   0.66%
     melee       257.43  56.04%  4.57
     fire shield    16.02   3.49%   5.66
     fire nova     119.55  26.02%  2.29
     fire blast    66.36   14.45%  2.36
    
    DPS         11450.22
    MPS         344.95
    MP2min       41393.81
    MRPS        486.80
    Out of mana time  0.00%
    
    elapsed simulation time: 5000.00h
    elapsed real time: 20.60s
    simulation speed: 873956x

  2. #2

    Re: [Enh] 10-man BiS gear list

    Very nice, thank you. Hopefully that guy looking for one a while back checks again soon.

  3. #3

    Re: [Enh] 10-man BiS gear list

    Completely missed this thread. Thanks a lot for putting this together. I appreciate it.

  4. #4

    Re: [Enh] 10-man BiS gear list

    I don't know if I'm missing something here, but why the single point in Reverberation? I'd always read that as 'reduces the cooldown' and I can't see 0.2 seconds making much difference (unless it does GCD?).

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    Re: [Enh] 10-man BiS gear list

    .2 isn't a lot, but it is helpful. I'm to lazy to do the math and most fights are around 10+ one extra shock, is one more dmg spell you didn't have before.
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    Re: [Enh] 10-man BiS gear list

    How are you getting T10.25/T10.5 in a 10-man only list?

  7. #7

    Re: [Enh] 10-man BiS gear list

    Quote Originally Posted by winthe
    .2 isn't a lot, but it is helpful. I'm to lazy to do the math and most fights are around 10+ one extra shock, is one more dmg spell you didn't have before.
    If you use FS/ES on cd it would be 1 extra shock every 3 minutes (179.8 seconds). Considering we don't, it is 1 extra shock every 3.5-4 minutes depending on priority.

    Its an underwhelming talent, but since we don't really have mana problems if we are single target dps'ing and have judgement of wisdom, there really is no where else to spend the point.

    However, since we do have some aoe, and there are some fights where we cannot be on target 100% of the time with JoW, it is my personal preference to use ele focus instead. That said, personal preference has no place in a single target BiS thread, and is why 1 point is reverb is just fine.


    @TOMGC: t10 is available from badges, and the end bosses of heroic ICC 10 do drop tier tokens (i264). He is justified including them in this thread.

  8. #8

    Re: [Enh] 10-man BiS gear list

    Quote Originally Posted by TOMGC
    How are you getting T10.25/T10.5 in a 10-man only list?
    There is no 10.5 tier gear here if by that you mean ilvl 277 tier gear. The only ilvl 277 piece obtainable through ICC 10man is the reputation ring, which is included in the list, and as kudzupo said, tier 10.25 tokens (ilvl 264) can be obtained from the wing endbosses in HC ICC 10man.

    About the single point in reverberation - it's a very minor dps increase, but still the best place to spend the extra talent point when talking about single target dps. I've modified my original post to clarify that the talent build is built for maximum single target dps.

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    Re: [Enh] 10-man BiS gear list

    the title is miss leading... you should name it BiS 10-Man Heroic...

    As the average raiding person will not have access to the heroic...
    Originally Posted by Zarhym
    Was that uninformative and anticlimactic enough? .

  10. #10

    Re: [Enh] 10-man BiS gear list

    Quote Originally Posted by Contion_BB
    the title is miss leading... you should name it BiS 10-Man Heroic...

    As the average raiding person will not have access to the heroic...
    Done

  11. #11

    Re: [Enh] 10-man heroic BiS gear list

    Just came on here to find out what to gem etc.. for enhancement shamans, as my sister plays one, and I would like to offer her advice when she needs it.

    However, I'm a little confused,..

    Why is the best race Tauren? Surely the racial of the Troll or Orc outweighs what Tauren offer?

    And best professions?

    I'd have thought Jewelcrafting would be up there, as well as perhaps Engineering?

    Can you explain why what you say is true?

  12. #12

    Re: [Enh] 10-man heroic BiS gear list

    Quote Originally Posted by sarius
    Just came on here to find out what to gem etc.. for enhancement shamans, as my sister plays one, and I would like to offer her advice when she needs it.

    However, I'm a little confused,..

    Why is the best race Tauren? Surely the racial of the Troll or Orc outweighs what Tauren offer?

    And best professions?

    I'd have thought Jewelcrafting would be up there, as well as perhaps Engineering?

    Can you explain why what you say is true?
    The race/profession choices are not optimal. Tauren is choosed because it doesn't have any dps racials which would affect the simmed dps and possible gearing so that the list would be optimal for as many players as possible. Same applies to professions, lw and enchanting are choosed because they offer the generic +80ap which has no real effect on gearing options.

  13. #13

    Re: [Enh] 10-man heroic BiS gear list

    generally, jc/eng is best prof choice.
    best race would be orc, and close after, trolls

    because not every player chooses profession/race for min/maxing, the most neutral professions/race were used.
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  14. #14

    Re: [Enh] 10-man heroic BiS gear list

    I see, bit misleading to put BiS list for optimal damage gear but not mention the best prof's and racials then, if you're going to adhere to this list, it's likely you'll do the professions if not the race.

  15. #15

    Re: [Enh] 10-man heroic BiS gear list

    Quote Originally Posted by sarius
    I see, bit misleading to put BiS list for optimal damage gear but not mention the best prof's and racials then, if you're going to adhere to this list, it's likely you'll do the professions if not the race.
    orcs have axe/fist specialisation.
    a orc shaman doing only 25man wouldn´t run into a dilemma about weapon types. in 10man only though, we have gutbuster, being the best itemized weapon for enhancement after pugius.

    a tauren and troll, maybe even a draenei, would like the mace best. an orc would prefer the abominatzion knuckles/frost giants cleaver over it, simply because of the racial.

    an absolutely BiS thread would be talormade for orc shaman, with possibly other weapons and gems, but likely other cape as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by Angoth
    I'm sorry that Blizzard won't just gift wrap awesome in a cup and let you drink your fill.

  16. #16

    Re: [Enh] 10-man heroic BiS gear list

    Quote Originally Posted by sarius
    I see, bit misleading to put BiS list for optimal damage gear but not mention the best prof's and racials then, if you're going to adhere to this list, it's likely you'll do the professions if not the race.
    The reason why I'm not gonna do this is that it would require at least three separate bis list, the "neutral" one, one with orc + jc & eng and one with draenei + jc & eng, and it would just get too confusing.

  17. #17

    Re: [Enh] 10-man heroic BiS gear list

    Im at Uni atm so dont have access to rawr/enhsim but recently there have been new findings in the critcap area and up to a certain point (was 3 gems for me) its a dps increase to replace some +20 haste with +20 hit. Theres a thread on EJ about it and their 25man BiS reflects this also.

  18. #18

    Re: [Enh] 10-man heroic BiS gear list

    Quote Originally Posted by dgmmidge
    Im at Uni atm so dont have access to rawr/enhsim but recently there have been new findings in the critcap area and up to a certain point (was 3 gems for me) its a dps increase to replace some +20 haste with +20 hit. Theres a thread on EJ about it and their 25man BiS reflects this also.
    10-man bis gear doesn't require any extra gems/enchants for the crit cap, so I can't see why replacing some haste gems with hit gems would be beneficial.

  19. #19

    Re: [Enh] 10-man heroic BiS gear list

    in rawr if you click the other tab then graph and select only hit and haste and show graph itll show you which is better, look one gem at a time. I could be wrong but it was a dps increase for my shaman

    edit: and apparentally increasing the hit increases the crit cap also up until a certain point, so gemming for just hit gives you free crit

  20. #20

    Re: [Enh] 10-man heroic BiS gear list

    Quote Originally Posted by dgmmidge
    in rawr if you click the other tab then graph and select only hit and haste and show graph itll show you which is better, look one gem at a time. I could be wrong but it was a dps increase for my shaman

    edit: and apparentally increasing the hit increases the crit cap also up until a certain point, so gemming for just hit gives you free crit
    Are you sure you used the Rawr sheet found in the original post? I just downloaded it, installed the newest Rawr and haste is definately better than hit in the graph.

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