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  1. #1481
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    In terms of enchants, i am pretty sure that 65 mastery would be best, or 50 haste, rather than expertise, correct me if im wrong ^^, Just what i thought, i am posting in here for help after all.. Thanks for your reply

  2. #1482
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    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...drood/advanced

    Just wondering if im going wrong anywere at all majorly? still find my dps below par and get constantly sucked into the "with hit or without hit" problem. Any help?

  3. #1483
    I just got my 4 set and need advise on gems\enchants\reforge.

    Thanks

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...zburger/simple

  4. #1484
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...torican/simple

    the other feral in my guild thbrius ( http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Thbrius/simple ) is #1 in dmg ALOT. while i'm falling behind to 13...14...15..

    Is there gear I could enchant/reforge/regem better?

    For instance this is a major domo fight...

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=1846&e=2407
    Last edited by coño; 2011-09-13 at 10:02 PM.

  5. #1485
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    It's mainly a gear issue, he has 4T12, rag trinket, and a 378 weapon, while you dont have any of those.

    You could optimize your gear a bit tho: 65 mastery is a better gloves enchant; you have too much hit/exp rating, they should be below 960 hit/780 exp, any more than that is wasted stats. Once you get Revered with Avengers, get the ancient petrified seed trinket to replace fluid death.

    Your savage roar uptime is very bad, only 50%. Same with rip at 65%. Thbrius has 80% SR uptime and 75% rip uptime. You also didn't use any potions, while he used 2. You used tiger's fury 14x, while he used it 17x.

    So, lots of stuff to improve on

  6. #1486
    Quote Originally Posted by Mozza View Post
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...drood/advanced

    Just wondering if im going wrong anywere at all majorly? still find my dps below par and get constantly sucked into the "with hit or without hit" problem. Any help?
    The major thing I would say is that given your current gear, do NOT reforge away haste. If you want to reforge away anything, reforge away crit (ferals have a large amount of crit to start, so losing some isn't going to have as significant impact as say a warrior reforging away crit would). Also switch out the TF glyph with Glyph of Berserk.

    A between minor and major thing would be your wrist enchant, 50 agi. No options there.

    More minor stuff: cloak enchant should be +20 agi from wrath. Hand enchant should either be +65 mastery or +22 agi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz1o1 View Post
    I just got my 4 set and need advise on gems\enchants\reforge.

    Thanks

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...zburger/simple
    You will probably want to pick up some more hit and expertise to make more effective use of 4T12. Ditch Unheeded Warning and pick up FD from justice points or Ricket's Magnetic thing. Lose your feet enchant and replace with plain +35 agi (small speed boost when we already have a 30% speed boost is not necessary). I would recommend changing the crit enchant on your back to an agi, though it would produce a fairly small gain (perhaps not even a noticeable one). Because of the small gain, keep it the crit enchant for now but when you get the Dreadfire Drape put +20 agi on it. The gem in your helm should be straight agi. Similar to the cloak enchant, the difference is minimal and probably not noticeable so it isn't a big deal if you change it out. Rule of thumb: if the socket bonus isn't agi, don't go for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by coño View Post
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...torican/simple

    the other feral in my guild thbrius ( http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Thbrius/simple ) is #1 in dmg ALOT. while i'm falling behind to 13...14...15..

    Is there gear I could enchant/reforge/regem better?

    For instance this is a major domo fight...

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=1846&e=2407
    It is better to be slightly under the hit/exp caps than slightly over them. I would recommend switching your reforges around until you get to or just under the caps. Everything else appears to be fine.

    The reasons your kitty guildmate is significantly outperforming you are that he is better geared than you (4T12, matrix, 378 weapon, etc.), and that his bleed uptime is also significantly better than yours.

    On the Majordomo fight, he had approximately 92% uptime on rake and 76% uptime on rip. You had 80% and 66% uptime on rake and rip respectively. He also appears to have made more liberal use of swipe.

    E: Basically, the same stuff Mihir said.
    Last edited by MasterNewbie; 2011-09-13 at 10:51 PM.

  7. #1487
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir View Post
    It's mainly a gear issue, he has 4T12, rag trinket, and a 378 weapon, while you dont have any of those.

    You could optimize your gear a bit tho: 65 mastery is a better gloves enchant; you have too much hit/exp rating, they should be below 960 hit/780 exp, any more than that is wasted stats. Once you get Revered with Avengers, get the ancient petrified seed trinket to replace fluid death.

    Your savage roar uptime is very bad, only 50%. Same with rip at 65%. Thbrius has 80% SR uptime and 75% rip uptime. You also didn't use any potions, while he used 2. You used tiger's fury 14x, while he used it 17x.

    So, lots of stuff to improve on
    Thank you.

  8. #1488
    Quote Originally Posted by MasterNewbie View Post
    You will probably want to pick up some more hit and expertise to make more effective use of 4T12. Ditch Unheeded Warning and pick up FD from justice points or Ricket's Magnetic thing. Lose your feet enchant and replace with plain +35 agi (small speed boost when we already have a 30% speed boost is not necessary). I would recommend changing the crit enchant on your back to an agi, though it would produce a fairly small gain (perhaps not even a noticeable one). Because of the small gain, keep it the crit enchant for now but when you get the Dreadfire Drape put +20 agi on it. The gem in your helm should be straight agi. Similar to the cloak enchant, the difference is minimal and probably not noticeable so it isn't a big deal if you change it out. Rule of thumb: if the socket bonus isn't agi, don't go for it
    Is this any better?

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...zburger/simple

    It may not be updated yet when I posted this but it will update on armory soon.

  9. #1489
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...harry/advanced

    Any feedback on what I should get, except hm versions of what I already got? My guild is currently at 3/7 hm (Shannox, rhyo, major).

    Just realized I had reforged hit to exp instead of crit to exp on my back...
    Last edited by kliffharry; 2011-09-14 at 12:42 AM.

  10. #1490
    Quote Originally Posted by kliffharry View Post
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...harry/advanced

    Any feedback on what I should get, except hm versions of what I already got? My guild is currently at 3/7 hm (Shannox, rhyo, major).

    Just realized I had reforged hit to exp instead of crit to exp on my back...
    I would recommend hoping a Hungerer drops. Right now you can't really tinker with reforges or enchants much else you will not have haste procs from matrix.

  11. #1491
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    Hi all. Long time reader of the druid forums but first time posting. :)

    I just made my 2T12 last night (to join my 2T11) and set about reforging to give haste more priority and mastery less. I'm bang on the soft cap for Expertise and a smidgen over the Hit cap at 963. My concern is that, through reforging, Mastery has shot through the floor. I've reforged away from it very little, but I can't see a good way to reforge into it without a) being well below Expertise and Hit caps or b) sacrificing some Crit-->Haste reforges.

    Part of the problem seems (to me) to be that my gear set up just now has a huge amount of Crit and Hit by default and not so much Mastery. I haven't tested this reforge set up "in the field" yet, only on dummies, but worry that my low Mastery is going to make my dps contribution on movement fights awful.

    Would appreciate any suggestions from the community for balancing my reforges, gems or enchants better! Here's a hacky link to my armory profile while I am unable to link URLs.

    eu_dot_battle_dot_net/wow/en/character/Kul%20Tiras/Cheryn/advanced

  12. #1492
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterNewbie View Post
    The major thing I would say is that given your current gear, do NOT reforge away haste. If you want to reforge away anything, reforge away crit (ferals have a large amount of crit to start, so losing some isn't going to have as significant impact as say a warrior reforging away crit would). Also switch out the TF glyph with Glyph of Berserk.

    A between minor and major thing would be your wrist enchant, 50 agi. No options there.

    More minor stuff: cloak enchant should be +20 agi from wrath. Hand enchant should either be +65 mastery or +22 agi.


    d.
    Thanks for the help

  13. #1493
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    Cheryn - Gears\Gems\Chanting all looks good. Generally, we take the stance that hit/exp caps are personal, but not recommended before 4t12. with 2t11+2t12, you want to sit somewhere around 5% hit and mid-teens expertise, dumping the rest into haste and mastery (haste for standstill fights, mastery for movement-heavy. If you can't afford reforging for each fight, find a mastery level you're comfortable with and put the rest into haste)

    As a side note, the extra energy cap your get from primal madness is something you'll want. Recommend taking the points out of perseverance and going 2/2 PM, add the last to furor.
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  14. #1494
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    In what way is the extra energy cap from PM useful?

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    (personal experience) when tw is first popped and I'm reapplying rake/rip at the start in berz, generally am over 100 energy for a couple GCDs, especially if prestors procs. (plus it's a free attack in berz assuming you've pooled enough energy before popping it?). also allows you to TF with more than 40 energy and not lose any energy gained because you went over cap (say right before reapplying a rip&rake or going into berz)

    but I might be just imaging it. I've never really gone into any simulations or anything really.
    Last edited by sarad; 2011-09-15 at 04:00 PM.
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  16. #1496
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ecker/advanced

    Im new at feral cat, what i can do to improve my dps?

    I Know i use 3 pvp, i dont have better.

    Why you guys just have 6% hit ? with 6% we dont miss any skill ?

  17. #1497
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdecker View Post
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ecker/advanced

    Im new at feral cat, what i can do to improve my dps?

    I Know i use 3 pvp, i dont have better.

    Why you guys just have 6% hit ? with 6% we dont miss any skill ?
    Get 65 mastery enchant on gloves; dragonscale leg armor on pants - 190 ap & 55 crit.
    Drop the agi / sta gems. Gem in boots should be 40 agi, swap gems in belt to 2 40 agi's.
    Put 67 agi gem in relic.
    Change wild growth glyph to ferocious bite, put glyph of rebirth in empty major slot.

    Some people like to go to 6% hit. You will find it to be alot easier on your rotation to go to 8% hit, at the same time might as well go to 26 expertise.

    Reforge the following:
    Helm 90 mastery -> exp
    Neck 62 crit -> mastery
    Shoulder 77 exp -> mastery
    Cloak 48 crit -> exp
    Chest 110 crit -> mastery
    Bracer 60 haste -> mastery
    Gloves 82 haste -> mastery
    Belt 84 haste -> exp
    Legs 84 hate -> exp
    Boots 67 haste -> exp
    Ring 1 54 haste -> mastery
    Weapon 108 crit -> mastery

    Can you pickup a Tsanga's Helm? How close to getting Matoclaw's band are you?
    Last edited by Epoch; 2011-09-15 at 06:31 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by 25165453757
    I am excite

  18. #1498
    So yeah. Knowing T12 legs aren't very high on stat budget:

    I just got my hands n Heroic Hood of Rampant Disdain. Is it worth going 4T12 with head off-piece seeing that our heroic Rag kill seems far away?

  19. #1499
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarad View Post
    Cheryn - Gears\Gems\Chanting all looks good. Generally, we take the stance that hit/exp caps are personal, but not recommended before 4t12. with 2t11+2t12, you want to sit somewhere around 5% hit and mid-teens expertise, dumping the rest into haste and mastery (haste for standstill fights, mastery for movement-heavy. If you can't afford reforging for each fight, find a mastery level you're comfortable with and put the rest into haste)
    Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated. I'll dial the hit and expertise back a bit and shift what I can into mastery.

    Quote Originally Posted by sarad View Post
    As a side note, the extra energy cap your get from primal madness is something you'll want. Recommend taking the points out of perseverance and going 2/2 PM, add the last to furor.
    I'll have a play around with it and see how it goes on our healers. I'm pretty good at not standing in the obvious stuff during fights. Originally went with 3/3 in perseverance to make life a bit easier on our healers when we first started raiding and everyone's gear wasn't so great, so might not be an issue these days. I'm sure I'll find out soon enough if it is.

    Anyway, thanks again for the suggestions!

  20. #1500
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Wynria/simple

    This is my feral druid alt, and using this on alt runs with my guild. Because its my alt I'll probably wont do a lot of dailies, cause I really hate them, and it would take so much time.

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