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    Raidwide contribution of buffs for all classes in Cataclysm

    Originally Posted by Ghostcrawler (Blue Tracker)
    Here is the raid buff / debuff design as it stands today. I did not include Hunter pets or resistance auras. This is not set in stone.

    Agility and Strength -- Death Knight, Shaman, Warrior
    Armor -- Shaman, Paladin
    10% AP -- Marksmanship Hunter, Enhancement Shaman, Blood Death Knight, Paladin
    Burst Haste -- Shaman, Mage
    3% Damage -- Beast Mastery Hunter, Arcane Mage, Retribution Paladin
    Health -- Warlock (probably Destruction), Warrior, Priest
    Mana Pool -- Mage, Warlock (probably Affliction)
    Mana Regen -- Paladin, Shaman, Warlock (probably Affliction)
    Replenishment -- Shadow Priest, Frost Mage, Survival Hunter, Destruction Warlock, Retribution Paladin
    5% Crit -- Fury Warrior, Feral Druid, Subtlety Rogue, Elemental Shaman
    20% Melee Attack Speed -- Shaman, Frost Death Knight, Ret Paladin, Survival Hunter
    5% Spell Haste -- Shaman, Balance Druid, Shadow Priest, Destro Warlock
    6% Spell Power -- Mage, Shaman
    10% Spell Power -- Elemental Shaman, Demonology Warlock, Fire Mage
    5% Stats -- Paladin, Druid

    12% Armor Debuff -- Warrior, Rogue, Druid, Hunter
    10% Physical Damage Debuff -- Warrior, Druid (probably bear), Protection Paladin, Warlock, Blood Death Knight
    30% Bleed Damage Debuff -- Arms Warrior, Feral Druid, Subtlety Rogue
    30% Cast Speed Slow -- Warlock, Rogue, Arcane Mage
    5% Spell Crit Chance Taken -- Fire Mage, Warlock (probably Demonology), Mage (possibly Frost)
    25% Healing Taken -- Arms Warrior, Fury Warrior, Hunter, Rogue, Frost Mage, Shadow Priest
    10% Melee Attack Speed Debuff -- Warrior, Death Knight, Feral Druid, Protection Paladin
    4% Physical Vulnerability -- Arms Warrior, Combat Rogue, Frost Death Knight
    8% Spell Damage Taken -- Warlock, Unholy Death Knight, Balance Druid, Assassination Rogue
    Last edited by hurrr; 2010-07-28 at 10:52 AM.

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    I think Power word fortitude and commanding shout stack.
    Fel Intelligence is +Int/+Spirit. Mana Spring is the same as Blessing of Wisdom.
    Focus Magic Isn't a spellpower buff. Its a +3% Crit buff for one player.

    Nice effort. I'm sure there are a lot more mistakes in there though it'll take a lot of us to sort it all =)

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    ok, so I'm gonna help you:

    the hit from misery and moonkin disappears

    - bleeding debuff: add hemorrage (rogue - sub)
    - 5% melee/ranged crit: add Honor among thieves (rogue - sub)
    - 4% damage-debuff: add savage combat (rogue - combat)
    - spell damage taken 8%: (rogue - ass)

    - melee haste: retribution paladin

    -attackpower debuff becomes a 10% decrease in physical damage dealt by the mob. will be in demo shout (feral/warrior), scarlet fever, and a pally-talent


    gonna edit stuff later
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    Quote Originally Posted by hurrr View Post
    Physical Vulnerability Debuff:
    Blood Frenzy

    Increased Spell Hit Chance Taken Debuff:
    Improved Faerie Fire, Misery
    For the physical part, Frost DKs will also get this, for the spell hit on target part, it will be removed.

    Edit: Damn Pope At least i got the Frost DK part
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    Look at the new talent trees. Misery doesn't exist, and Shadowform gives +spell crit to raid.
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    Pretty sure I read motw and kings are going to be the same 5% buff to stats. I don't have a source since it was from an alpha leak awhile back though.
    Last edited by Video Games; 2010-07-18 at 02:03 PM.

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    hunter has a venom reducing targets armor, i guess the pets wont need to do that now

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    Totem of wrath is no longer around in cata its replaced with totemic wrath making your fire totem have the same effect as demo pact.
    Sometimes you just have to stop healing some people to prove a point, if they don't listen, it's really their own fault :P

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    If you want to add or remove a buff or debuff, please give the name of the spell so I can cross reference to the current cata build on wowhead.

    Thanks for the contributions so far, thread updated! Couldn't find the hunter armor reduction venom, but I did find Widow Venom, which is their new MS debuff

    Oh and if Raidcomp was updated for cataclysm I wouldn't be doing this, ofc.
    Last edited by hurrr; 2010-07-18 at 02:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurrr View Post
    Battle Shout, Blessing of Might, Abomination's Might, Trueshot Aura, Unleashed Rage
    Battle Shout and Blessing of might are static numbers, the others are 10% increase, Bshout and Abom. Might stack for example
    Stamina buff:
    Power Word: Fortitude, Commanding Shout, Blood Pact
    pw:fort stamina increase, commanding shout and bloodpact hp increase and stack with pw:f
    Mana regeneration buff:
    Fel Intelligence, Mana Spring Totem, Blessing of Wisdom
    fel int gives int and spirit (but less then arc int and blessing of spirit respectivly
    Percentage increase healing received buff:
    Grace, Tree of Life, Improved Devotion Aura
    Grace is not a raidwide buff, its only for the disc priest who applies it
    Damage reduction percentage buff:
    Blessing of Sanctuary
    disc priest also provides this with Renewed Hope (not sure if it stacks now, guess not but it used to)

    this is for live ofc, not sure for cata.
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    From cata.wowhead:

    Fel Intelligence:
    Increases party and raid members maximum mana by 5401 and causes them to regenerate 828 mana every 5 sec.

    Arcane Intellect:
    Infuses all party and raid members with brilliance, increasing their maximum mana by 5401 for 1 hour.


    Fixing grace though, thanks for that. Not quite sure about the Blessing of Might and Battleshout still being static numbers in cata, think I read some blue post saying they were consolidating it.. Power Word fortitude / Commanding shout / Blood pact all seem to give the same buff now

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    cross-check with wowhead and cata.wowhead for all buffs that are changing

    Blessing of Might becomes indeed a 10% AP-buff and a mana-restore-buff
    http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=79102

    proof of demo-roar becoming 10% debuff
    http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=99

    commanding shout gives 1485 Stamina, just like blood pact
    http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=469
    http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=6307

    this is what Fel intelligence becomes: a mana-buff and a mana-restore-buff
    http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=54424

    I think demonic pact will become a 10% Spellpower Buff, just like the old totem of wrath
    http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=48090
    http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=77746

    hurrr, add some bold head-lines and put an physical/magical order into that list, to make it comprehensible
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    3% haste spell/melee will not exisit in Cataclysm.

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    sanc got removed, does no one pay attention?

    Plus there's too many errors for me to list them =|

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    the hunter armor-reduce is this http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/3043/
    the meleehit-reduction is gone

    current ret-speed is the talent "Swift Retribution", resembles the frost-dk and meleeshami stuff
    if i'm not mistaken all Percentage increase healing received buff will be taken out

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    Quote Originally Posted by conqq View Post
    sanc got removed, does no one pay attention?

    Plus there's too many errors for me to list them =|
    My main is not a paladin.
    Sorry for not living up to your standards.

    Thanks for the clarifications Pope, gonna update. And not everything is easily categorized as Magical/Physical :-/
    If the BBCode interface here was somewhat better I'd categorize by class color and so on, but I'm not doing it all by hand.
    Last edited by hurrr; 2010-07-18 at 03:32 PM.

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    Tree of Life no longer provides an aura.

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    Updated, "redesigned".

    Are there any bbcodes for various classes, or does Boubouille type
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    out by hand when making news posts?

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    There aren't any BBCodes built in (as far as I know), although I'd guess it's cut & paste rather than typing it out.

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