Orihank is displeased.Originally Posted by dexter44
"tanks now will have chance to fail on threat if dps is high and they can't do a good work on every mob"
- people complain
"tanks now will build aggro more easily and thread won't be a very big issue"
- people complain
oh you, WoW community, never ceases to amaze me
200% up from 125% is a LOT
Will tanking be easier than in WotLK now?
The changes they put in w/ 13131 was enough to help bolster Ret DPS to at least above what it is right now on Live. Anything else done right now would be overkill, with the state of things being as they are right now.
Note how they also tuned down Destro; the 'low dps' that you're seeing compared to casters on the PTR is due to the casters being overtuned.
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No.
It's still a threat decrease from what it is in Live right now -- most signifigantly AoE threat.
Orihank is displeased.Originally Posted by dexter44
Did they scrap the 3s CD on Crusader Strike for Prot, and Rune Strike change for DKs? Or is it just in a later build we'll get with 4.0.3 or something?
Live is 207.35% total threat for warriors/DKs/bears. Paladins were a bit different.
So this new tank threat modifier is SLIGHTLY lower than live. However, all DPS negative threat multipliers were removed. Rogues used to do 29% less threat, warriors in battle stance did 20% less threat, etc. So threat is still much more important on PTR/beta than on live, even with the 200% multiplier.
This won't return AE to the game since everybody's AE damage has been severely nerfed. The mobs just won't die if you try it.
Stop QQing, blizzard is trying to balance the game to level 85. They are not nerfing some class because you think it's FOTM for 3 weeks before the new expansion hits.
damn this is a announcement next week still not patch , the new tanking stuff need hard testing for it
Threats changed so now when im single target tanking a mob on my warrior and using everything i can, i'll hold aggro. Thunderclap and shockwave will still be too wimpy to hold threat off most attacks on any target im not specifically single targeting.
And from the PoV of my other main (holy priest) pallys needed that buff, they were terrible on the ptr in best end gear, now they're more in line.
I think with increasing threat % by 75 it will not be faceroll WoTLK tankig ... lets just bealive it will not ... hope so .. i want reroll healer and it will be anoying to run in an instant without CC, tactics, interupts etc. We Want some moar action and something to think about ( not faceroll ) Blizzard hope i will not be disapointed ... it sims i will not
Tanks with 125% buff lose mobs to healers. Maybe now was to much but they can nerf it next patch. At least healers will stop agro mobs from tank after a few spells.
Remember all classes lose talents to do less agro. My moonkin allways take out mobs and boss from tank after 15s and a few crits.
"Snake Trap, Explosive Trap, Freezing Trap, Ice Trap, Immolation Trap now last 1 min, up from 30 sec."
I will admit, I squealed with joy at this. I never did like it when they changed traps to only last for 30 seconds. I didn't complain openly, because it was a relic feeling from BC when I actually got to chain trap things, but with CC coming back, I'm really glad they're bumping that back up to 1 minute!
Conflagrate nerfed (deserved nerf) but they need to compensate , maybe increase damage on Chaos Bolt or Incinerate
I don't get the tanking change.
I have been running tons of heroic dungeons on my pally during the past 3 days on the PTR and I didn't see much problem with threat. Don't make me wrong it's harder than before and yes sometimes dps pull aggro on trash, and most of the PTR players are ilvl 277 gear. But when I say "sometimes" I mean it, it's definitely not always happening ( it's pretty rare to be honnest) and I feel it's normal to have to taunt sometimes to bring the mob back
I tried ICC 10 man and the only thing I noticed (but still unsure about it)is how hard mobs are hitting. Marrowgar basically sliced our Dk tank in two and as a prot pally I survived alone only cause I was using word of glory all the time instead of Sotr. I'd like to get the 30% buff on the PTR to have better idea cause comparing the damage I take on live with 30% buff and the damage I take on the PTR without is hard
By the way aggro is not in my opinion a big problem atm if you train a bit and know what you are doing
Last edited by Cema; 2010-10-06 at 07:53 PM.