Telluric currents. Focused Insight does not give you back mana, it just increases your next heal and gives you a free shock.
Telluric currents. Focused Insight does not give you back mana, it just increases your next heal and gives you a free shock.
Does anyone know what gear I should be looking for on the auction house, just picked up my shaman again he's forever been enhance but I thought i'd give healing a go. I can't find any gear with crit on it on the auction house for 80 it's either mastery spirit or haste spirit. :<
Don't bother with AH stuff, if you do get some cheap items remeber you can reforge the haste/mastery for crit.
Farm normals and buy the badge gear + collect normal gear. Do this until you have enough mana regen to heal heroics, from then on farm heroics.
I noticed that there is not a specific gem section yet. Is there not enough information to go by yet for what specific gems to use in Cata? Hoping to update my outdated haste gems in RatingBuster soon.
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And is anyone else finding Cleansing Waters to be great? I was not so sure about it when I first picked it up, but it's turning out to be a talent that I really like.
Last edited by 2ndHouse; 2010-12-17 at 01:50 AM.
Cleansing Waters indeed is great :]
As for gems, int in all applicable slots (Brilliant red gems +40 int), and fill rest with appropriate colours; blue slot - Purified purple gem (20 int and 20 spirit) and yellow slot - Potent orange gems (20 int 20 crit rating).
Socket bonuses are really nice so it's worth getting them :]
Did anyone figure out the softcaps for our HoTs ?
I mean at which % Haste we get an additional tick on Riptide / Healing Rain / Earthliving?
Or should I test it myself, and post it here?
I'm just asking because although haste has low priority for us, if there would be softcaps for the HoTs, it would increase/decrease in value after certain points.
1k ? Sounds pretty wrong, since all our Hots need different haste-values for an additional Tick.
I looked at the Resto-shaman-guide at EJ, and they listed all the percentages for an additional tick for riptide and Earthliving, unfortunately with the rating-values of level 80, and therefore, no Healing Rain, too.
link
(assuming 5% Haste buff)
for additional riptide-ticks you need
279, 2020, 3764 Haste Rating. (~2%, ~16%, ~30%)
for additional Earthliving-Ticks:
944, 3994 (~7%, 32%)
for additional Healing Rain Ticks: (tested it myself, not 100% accurate)
(640 Rating 5%) gave me an additional tick.
I've changed my mind about Stoneclaw Totem.
Instead of it being option, now i think it's mandatory This is one of The best glyphs ever. It absorbs so much during almost any encounter that it's almost stupid.
Very very powerfull glyph as for now (might change with more and more HP in later tiers).
As for haste values it's not hard to do the math, just requires some time, don't have game, but from very basic math it's
- 14% haste for Riptide (glyphed) 21/8 = 2,625 => 3/2,625 ~1,14
- 25% haste for Eearthliving 12/5 = 2,4 => 3/2,4 = 1,25
- 17% haste for Healing Rain 12/7 = 1,71 => 2/1,71 = 1,17
1% ~128 Haste Rating.
Assuming 5% haste always active you need:
~9*128 = 1152 haste rating for Riptide (glyphed)
~20*128 = 2560 haste rating for El
~12*128=1536 haste rating for Healing Rain
Instant, your calculations are not accurate.
You might not know this, but a new tick on a hasted HoT is not added when you can fit in another one into the full duration (like you indicated with your 21/8 = 2,625), But it's actually this way that the HoT gets EXTENDED. You can see this easily with Healing Rain. (which is actually 10 seconds duration, not 12 seconds, like you said)
1. aquire 10% Haste (exactly 10 percent)
2. Cast Healing Rain
3. Watch the Cooldown of Healing Rain ending
4. Watch the last tick.
At the moment, when you gain an additional tick on your Healing Rain, it gets extended to over 10 seconds. The more haste you reach, it gets normalized again. I'm not 100% sure, but I read somewhere that the rule of thumb is: "if you can fit in HALF of the tick-duration, you gain an additional tick"
This seems accurate looking at EJ-values I posted. The first tick of Riptide is gained at 7% Haste. The next ticks are gained when you reach additional 14% haste.
So it's like this:
6% Haste-Riptide: 7 Ticks, Duration is somewhere shortly under 20 sec.
7% Haste-Riptide: 8 Ticks, Duration is 22,5 Seconds
....
...
Duration decreases again to under 20 seconds.
21% Haste: 9 Ticks, Duration is 22,5 seconds again.
I love theorycrafting.
To Pearroc,
Thanks so much for this guide! I am pretty new to healing with my shaman, even though i've played her consistently as my main since the end of BC. I didn't do much besides elemental until the LFD tool, but the long DPS waits changed my mind. Just when i was getting the hang of healing in Wrath, everything changed to the way things are now. That being said, I really appreciate you breaking down everything into easy, bite-sized morsels of wonderful deliciousness. Thanks!
My only complaint with the way they've changed our healing is that I'm finding it hard to keep one set of gear for elemental and healing.
With elemental, the stat priority is Int>Spirit/hit>Mastery>Haste>Crit.
With Resto now, the stat priority is Int/Spirit>Crit>Haste>Mastery.
The stat priorities make me want to reforge things for ele, then revert them for healing. >.< I thought the reason they gave us a Spirit<->Hit talent was so that we wouldn't have to keep two full sets of gear for our two roles? Any advice? *sigh*
Anyway, /rant over.
Thanks again for your hard work in keeping this updated!
Last edited by tregolani; 2010-12-18 at 09:01 PM. Reason: Failed at typing before I posted >.<
@Pope
You might be correct about this As i said i didn't have game on hand, and couldn't check how it exactly works. If 'half the tick' is enough to extend the hot, then it's even better of us. Although i wonder at what % next cap will be (1.5 tick? :O).
Additionaly, I of course made a mistake with 12/7. Point is that HR ticks from the very begginng so it gets 6 ticks withing 10 seconds time frame. This is very unique and somewhat confusing... Dunno why i thought it has 12 second duration. This way or another it makes it even harder for HR to get an additional tick.
Gonna check how haste works for Riptide, and if 7% is enough for additional tick.
I've checked ticks for Riptide and it's indeed as you said. With 7.19% haste it ticks 8 times.
That's even better reason to glyph for Riptide
Last edited by Instant; 2010-12-19 at 10:02 AM.
Added some large updates.
Main thing left to do is to add a pre-raiding gear list (which I REALLY don't want to do :P)
since i am almost exalted with the hellscream's reach, ive been looking at the trinket "mandala of stirring paterns" for a while.
the spirit is nice.. but when i see the mastery proc, it just gets me mehhh...
what opinion do u guys have on this trinket?
Since Pearorc doesn't want to do it... and it has to be done, and i have some extra time at work i decided to give it a try
I'm going to post armor pieces first, press the post button and then continue so i don't loose what i wrote
Also i know that at this moment we need pre-raiding list more than BoS, but i decided to include epics (which drops from raids). They will be listed at the bottom of each armor piece segment So if you want pre-raiding gear, take a look at those which are mentioned first.
Criteria:
Spirit > Crit > Haste > Mastery
No mail specialization. As for now my character (with few hc blues and blues) has 3276 INT unbuffed. 5% of that would be ~160 INT. At this moment i belive it's not strong enough to outweight stats on some cloth/leather armor.
I'll add mail items though, even if they don't meet the criteria Because we all now there often is drama when it comes to loot. But w/o additional info, if you wan't it, click it
To answer your question, why i'm mentioning crit only items - Reforge. If anything you can always reforge crit into some haste or mastery. In few cases i skipped over epic w/o crit and put it lower on prio list, but to be honest it's not much of a difference, and i always listed items so you could see what's the alternative. Only items that i left out are epics for reputation that do not have any spirit
Head:
Blue
Buyable for 2200 JP from vendors
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/58128/h...he-inward-eye/
No epic that meets criteria.
Epic
Drops from Atramedes
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59312/h...he-blind-seer/
NO CRIT
Drops from Halfus Wyrmbreaker
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59481/h...-nether-scion/
Shoulders:
Blue
Drops from Anraphet Halls of Origination
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/57866/m...-soft-shadows/
Buyable for 1650 JP
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/58162/s...shoulderwraps/
Epic
Drops from Elementium Monstrosity The Bastion of Twilight (Twilight Ascendant Council)
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59510/feludius-mantle/
Drops from Golem Sentry Blackwing Descen
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59467/hide-of-chromaggus/
NO CRIT
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63452/b...lost-humanity/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/58129/seafoam-mantle/
Chest
Blue
Buyable from vendors for 2200JP
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/58126/v...-waking-dream/
No Epic at all that meets criteria.
NO CRIT
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63540/c...n-breastplate/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56274/chromis-chestpiece/
Wrists
Blue
Drops from Rom'ogg Bonecrusher Blackrock Caverns
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56313/manacles-of-pain/
No epics that meet the criteria.
NO CRIT
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63486/s...-the-betrayed/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59310/chaos-beast-bracers/
Hands
Blue
Drops from General Husam Lost City of the Tol'vir
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56383/ionic-gloves/
Drops from Vanessa VanCleef The Deadmines
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63482/daughters-hands/
Buyable for 1650JP
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/58152/b...ands-of-elune/
Epic
Drops from Atramedes (Blackwing Descent)
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59324/gloves-of-cacophony/
NO CRIT
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63475/old-friends-gloves/
Belt
Blue
Drops from Temple Guardian Anhuur Halls of Origination
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56410/b...trified-tears/
Epic
Zone drop in Blackwing Descent
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59217/x-tron-duct-tape/
There are two other belts, but somehow wowhead doesn't show where those drop :O
NO CRIT
Blue
Blacksmith Abasi Vendor in Uldum (revered reputation - easy to get)
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62445/sash-of-prophecy/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/57917/b...-still-stream/
Epic
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63535/w...ard-of-hatred/
Legs
Blue
Drops from Karsh Steelbender Blackrock Caverns
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56303/heat-wave-leggings/
Provisioner Arok Vendor in Shimmering Expanse (Earthen Ring reputation) - very easy and awesome pants to get
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62358/l...utching-roots/
Drops from Asaad The Vortex Pinnacle (H)
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56375/l...escent-clouds/
Drops from Overlord Sunderfury Twilight Highlands (rare elite mob)
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/67244/s...urys-sundries/
Epic
Drops from Maloriak Blackwing Descent
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59351/l...-greatest-son/
NO CRIT
Provisioner Whitecloud (hyjal reputation)
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62380/w...ess-legguards/
Buyable for 2200JP
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/58127/l...thing-silence/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/57875/chaotic-wrappings/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/60201/p...ster-leggings/
http://www.wowhead.com/item=67148
Mmo db somehow buggod for these pants
Boots
Boots are easy, get reputation with Earthen Ring and buy those:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62363/earthmenders-boots/
There is really no point in farming any other rep than ER as resto shaman. You can get 4 items that WILL help you, and two of them are BiS (legs and boots) until raids, and two of them are pretty damn nice (epic ring and hands afair). I won't list other boots cause it doesn't have any sense. If anyone thinks otherwise please say so
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Neck
Blue
Drops from Altairus The Vortex Pinnacle
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56362/a...tender-breath/
Epic
Drops from Halfus Wyrmbreaker The Bastion of Twilight
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59483/wyrmbreakers-amulet/
NO CRIT
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/57934/celadon-pendant/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56300/quicksilver-amulet/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56327/a...-lost-pendant/
Back
Blue
Drops from Commander Springvale Shadowfang Keep (H)
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63448/springvales-cloak/
Drops from Drahga Shadowburner Grim Batol (H)
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56450/azureborne-cloak/
No epics that meet criteria.
NO CRIT
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56434/solar-wind-cloak/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/58194/heavenly-breeze/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59516/drape-of-the-twins/
Rings
Blue
Drops from Asaad The Vortex Pinnacle (H)
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56373/ring-of-frozen-rain/
Drops from Ammunae Halls of Origination (H)
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56418/band-of-life-energy/
Epic
Zone Drop Blackwing Descent
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59220/s...measure-alpha/
NO CRIT
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56391/veneficial-band/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56307/kibble/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/58189/t...nd-of-flowers/
Relic
Blue
Drops from High Priestess Azil The Stonecore (H)
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56350/b...rk-prophecies/
Epic
Buyable for 700VP
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/64673/relic-of-eonar/
NO CRIT
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56372/captured-lightning/
Shield
Blue
Drops from Ascendant Lord Obsidius Blackrock Caverns (H)
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56322/crepuscular-shield/
Epic
Drops from Atramedes
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59327/kingdoms-heart/
NO CRIT
Buyable for JP
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/57925/shield-of-the-mists/
Blacksmithing
http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/76455/e...m-stormshield/
Weapon
No weapon with Spirit and Crit...
Blue
Drops from Rom'ogg Bonecrusher Blackrock Caverns (H)
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56312/torturers-mercy/
Drops from Setesh Halls of Origination (H)
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/57872/scepter-of-power/
Blacksmithing
http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/76450/elementium-hammer/
Epic
Drops from nefarian... only weapon with spirit and crit
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59459/a...e-dragon-king/
And now... most arguable thing ever. Trinkets. Personally i always have few trinkets with me. Different fights require different approach. But for now i think most important thing to get is regen. Funny thing about regen is that it requires Spirit, and our Mana Tide boosts spirit by A LOT. So at this moment i'm aiming for two trinkets with Spirit. One of them is very easy to find:
Trinkets
Epic
Buyable for 1600VP
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/58184/core-of-ripeness/
At this moment this trinket should double user's spirit. When i'll finally get it, i'm gonna make a macro to use this trinket and Mana Tide at the same time.
However, there is one more trinket that i'd like to have VERY VERY MUCH.
Drops from High Priestess Azil The Stonecore
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56351/tear-of-blood/
However if you're a JC by a chance, you can always make yourself:
Craftable from JC
http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/73643/figurine-dream-owl/
With both trinkets up, AND mana tide you can get close to 25/30k MP5... Which basically means you get new mana bar every 3 minutes when Mana Tide is off the CD.
There is also a spirit proc trinket, but it has mastery instead of intellect, it can be reforged, and if you ever see it, roll for it ASAP.
Drops from Isiset Halls of Origination (H)
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56414/blood-of-isiset/
That's it for trinkets as for now, those are what i'm aiming for, although it will take some time. Meanwhile you can always get:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56463/corrupted-egg-shell/
Which gives you 2850 MP5 if absorb will last for entire duration and another 5700 mana when it's gone. To maximize your MP5 you can use Glyph of Stoneclaw, this way you'll have ~20k absorb and hopefully you'll get more mana.
This one is also not bad:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56462/gale-of-shadows/
Although it doesn't help our regen so... it's lower priority
Think i covered all pieces of loot. Later i'll switch links to mmo db so we have some nice tooltips. Or maybe moderators will do that for me
Last edited by Instant; 2010-12-20 at 11:43 AM.
Will add your post to the guide and try to sort out the tooltips
<3 much love instant
Awesome job guys! this is my first post and yours gets the honor Love the stat and gear help!!! Only thing I am questioning : I am doing a offensive healer spec, using the spirit to hit talent Elemental Precision to rank 2. This alone gives me ~9% hit. I am currently using a +hit caster weapon as it was hands down better than what i had(going to change of course when a better drops) For me, what works for the big heal is Flame shock, Unleashed Elements (doesn't count as a heal for some reason) then GHW. I got a 40k crit heal the other day. I agree Telluric currents is situational. In heroics i used it on Erudax, during the void phase. Last night i got my dps up to 1250, and regened 20k mana after costs. Just throwing in my 2 cents
PS : How do you feel about the Offhand healer item from Scribes for breaking into heroics? This probably not place to post my character for critique tho
I sorted tooltips later, although i forgot to remove last sentence
Anyway its very hard to do BiS list, because of Reforge... It really changes a lot things, and item that would normally be 'meh' can be good enough
Offhand items are very nice, especially since you can enchant them with 100 intellect anyway. For HCs you can use them. Bonus armor that you get from shield is not needed, you're not taking the instance after all.
OOOOOOO had another question/observation and cant figure out how "post added" to work on my workplace browser: I have the corrupted egg shell. What has been working for me is binding it to a common spell like Riptide or HW. Yes it is great for the shield it gives, but the mana return is my big selling point. in Heroics i am not super geared yet, and mana is a premium for all healers. using it near the begining of the fight means i can stay topped for the first part leaving me more mana for later, and then having it later on for the "harder" parts of the fights going off is nice. I am working on the binding to get the +spi trink i have to run with mana tide totem. great "dirka dur" idea. I completely missed it
The shield is pretty much useless on that trinket so using it the way you are is good.
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