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    Frost arena viability (and another Q)

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    2v2: Holy Paladin/DK
    3v3: Holy Paladin/DK/Enhancement Shaman

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    Hey guys. I just hit 85 the other day on my Death Knight and have begun some pre-arena stuff. (BG gearing and what have you). I've been doing a bunch of research on Death Knights in PvP.

    Now I've been trying out both the standard frost and unholy PvP builds (you can see them in my armory link). That being said I really feel like I've started to prefer frost over unholy. What I'm wondering though is if it's just because I've spent a lot more time as frost so far and have gotten used to it.


    so generally what I do with each of these specs is:

    Frost:
    Howling blast on CD + Necrotic strike on CD, blood strike's for death runes and frost strike with RP.

    Unholy
    Keep diseases up (Plague strike + Chains of Ice or Outbreak if off CD), Scourge strike if no healers necrotic strike if there are healer(s), Festering strike if I have Blood+frost and Blood strike if I just have blood. Death coil with RP. (of course have pet do his thing as well).


    Now as far as damage goes from what I understand the general agreement is that Frost is a more "bursty" style of damage and unholy is more steady. The thing I'm sort of wondering about is this idea of utility for both of them and what they bring to an arena team. From what I see it's

    Frost:
    Chillblains spam (lets you slow while keeping up damage)
    Hungering Cold (strong crowd control)
    Haste buff (seems useful if I'm running with an enh shaman)
    Pillar of Frost (strong buff)

    Unholy:
    Pet (Stun + damage, interupt in special form)
    Anti-Magic Zone (Useful against casters)
    Gargoyle (controlled burst)
    Unholy Frenzy (haste buff is really good, not a big fan of the small damage taken and does not seem as good as a str buff)
    Desecration (good slow)


    So perhaps I'm missing something really big here. Pretty much it feels like Hungering Cold + haste buff vs Gargoyle and Pet stun to me.


    TL;DR:

    Is frost a viable alternative in the arena compared to unholy (at least for my comps). What are your thoughts on it next patch (with 12% 2H dmg bonus and root) against unholy.

    ps:

    Is there a decent rune watching mod that I can make look like the blizzard ones? (just with a CD number over the runes and movable). I'm using Rune-It-All right now but it bugs out sometimes when I get a Runic Emp proc on a death rune (it'll turn into what it was originally, not a death, even though it still counts as a death).

    Oh and I'm sure this sort of stuff is asked a lot but I've looked around (both on here and AJ) and can't find a ton of good info about Frost DK in arena. Mostly just people saying it is good in BG.
    Last edited by Cyrant; 2011-01-17 at 07:57 AM.

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    well, my thoughts are on how i play frost 2hander

    -First off, i love frost, good burst damage, good proc rate, and not needing to rely on pets to do your damage.
    -From what i saw in the patch notes (and if it does make it through) frost players who speced into chillbain will get a 3 second root from chains of ice, which thanks to the nerf to druids (fingers crossed) will make life so much easier, especially in dalaran sewer
    -Hungering cold, the dks first trinket worthy ability, i could not count how many times ive dueled people as unholy and their first reaction is swapping out their pvp trinket for a dps one, and thanks to my 3v3 comp, forcing a trinket = hello cc target, that and its a free interupt/stun, allowing if i have a killing machine proc, they are about to eat a 20k-ish crit
    - Another great thing about frost is where getting a damage boost of 10-12% for 2hander weilders since our dps was lacking in the pve department, making it a viable spec for both pvp and pve, and come on healers, who doesnt love a dk whos speced into a free interupt

    hopefully blizzard may look into dk mobility for frost and give piller of frost a cannot be slowed down while its active kinda thing, would be quite nice

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    holy sweet jebus cyrant, yeah life will get alot easier when you replace those greens and crafted pvp gear XD, come on now, make us dks proud, get anti social and grind for honor!
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    & dont forget to lvl up some professions, maybe juwelcrafting or engineering :O

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    holy sweet jebus cyrant, yeah life will get alot easier when you replace those greens and crafted pvp gear XD, come on now, make us dks proud, get anti social and grind for honor!
    I literally dinged 85 2 days ago lol. Working on it :P

    Appreciate the help though.

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