go look at the current worldoflogs. yes the nerf to priests are needed, are you even thinking this through from a balance point of view or just from your own class view?
go look at the current worldoflogs. yes the nerf to priests are needed, are you even thinking this through from a balance point of view or just from your own class view?
I said my HOLY bubble is 20k. My disc bubble is... 24543 now that I've gotten rid of as much mastery as I can.
Halfus was a gimmick fight. I'm more than aware of the numbers us disc priests were pulling on it. It was the only reason I kept an atonement spec as my secondary. Given the changes to the Halfus encounter, I just don't bother.
I'm not told to "raid heal melee". We make our shamans do that.
It's fundamentally a bad idea. They've just managed to finally make it usable. It didn't heal for much, the range was tiny, you had to actually target the lolwell to click on it... so bad.
Paladins spot-heal the raid. In situations where people clump, they AoE heal.
I am aware that top tier guilds bring disc priests just for barrier, I know from experience. Barrier does not a superior tank healer make. Combining absorbs and raw healing, holy paladins still outclass disc priests(PS: they do absorbs too, just like us).
Yes, I have. And I have found, as I said before, holy paladins do the job better.
Disc isn't a tank healer. Disc HPS is still quite high, but it does have an identity issue. I'd rather they splice out more healing and conjure up more types of shielding.
You guys implying Disc was viable before 3.0 are gonna make me pee my pants laughing. In no way, was Disc ever a viable spec in Burning Crusade (outside of Arena) or Vanilla. Nobody spent more than a few points in the Disc tree, and then, it was just to augment the Holy tree with talents like Meditation (everyone) and Improved Prayer of Spirit (some). If you didn't have CoH in BC, you'd have to be kicked out of the raid for having Down's Syndrome.
i feel like the whole "shields and heals" spec doesnt work
for it to be fair with other heals they cant have the equal healing out put as the other heals
since they have an abilitie no one else has (stoping incoming damage)
so somethings gotta give. uve gotta have equal heals (when compared to other classes) and shitty shields. or really good shields and shitty heals
otherwise disc could heal with the rest of em AND mitigate
the class can work, but somethings gotta give, and shield spamming is definately NOT the way too go (boring as hell)
maybe if they made disc like having different kinds of shields and less healing it would work better
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On my priest I pvp heavily as disc, and used a different disc smite spec before halfus was nerfed (it isn't needed now). I also use smite spec disc for when me and my rogue friend dual retro bosses for gold.
I prefer holy for raid (and tank) healing simply because it has a huge arsenel of tools available. I can flip to raid heal or strong single target healing. If the event called for it, I can happily be either spec for it.
With disc you want to use penance, shield and heal. heal is really good because it reduces the cooldown on weakened soul, and also applies a +10% mitigation buff when it crits (it will obviously crit if you use it enough).
As for holy you want to use renews a lot, and serendipity in absolute emergencies ie 1-2 flash / gheal or poh; you'll also pom as both specs and flip between inner fire and the other buff depending on what you're doing as disc. As holy you'll want to spec body and soul. I know its a bone of contention among holy priests but I really swear by it for getting raiders (and myself) out of trouble way fast.
As you can see how I mixed my post, im just freely speccing both for when the situation calls for it.. I certainly wouldn't call either spec cookie cutter.
Sounds like you quit during wrath when all you did in wrath was spam shield, flash heal and penance. Game's changed since then and so has your class. Back in TBC it was holy with coh spam. And in classic you would've sat there timing your gheal with someone elses' gheal then run off and wait till you regenned :P
I don't think priest has ever been in such an interesting place as now.
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