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  1. #481
    Quote Originally Posted by Synaia View Post
    nothing much too say might wanna put a point into rapid killing for on aoe situations, where you can get the +50focus. probably a point of marked for death or silencing shot if you don't need to interupt
    That's what my secondary spec is for. Mainly if I have to kill Beth spiderlings solo, but thankfully that hasn't been the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastcoastSB View Post
    That's what my secondary spec is for. Mainly if I have to kill Beth spiderlings solo, but thankfully that hasn't been the case.
    even better then
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    Don't drop that point from Termination, keep it 2/2. Drop a point in Marked for Death instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgicanofl View Post
    Don't drop that point from Termination, keep it 2/2. Drop a point in Marked for Death instead

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    eh, gimme your shoulders
    10/10 nothing really to comment on.
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  5. #485
    Will be changing arcane glyph out, did alot of theorycrafting and napkin math, and hardcasting aimshot is better then arcane even under 90%, so rapid fire glyph is next best, HMRag will want KS glyph since he goes under 20% multiple times and the inferno add's. I am hitcapped, battle.net isn't updating it properly and showing me under... http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...n/Ðize/simple
    Last edited by Dize; 2011-09-18 at 09:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dize View Post
    Will be changing arcane glyph out, did alot of theorycrafting and napkin math, and hardcasting aimshot is better then arcane even under 90%, so rapid fire glyph is next best, HMRag will want KS glyph since he goes under 20% multiple times and the inferno add's. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...n/Ðize/simple
    Really nice gear tbh, not much to improve on besides the Polearm which i'm sure you have your sights on. 9/10, 10/10 with polearm upgrade.

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...olidito/simple Have crappy pvp weapons and shoulders, currently looking for a raiding guild. Got survival atm and get around 20-25k dps single target, when i find the raiding guild i'll check out MM along side Survival and see if the difference is big.

    Using the pvp items over the pve ones as i have ZA/ZG pve ones and even with resilience the difference is massive.
    Last edited by Solidito; 2011-09-18 at 09:21 PM.

  7. #487
    change enchant on gloves (20 agi)
    gem straight agility unless socket bonus gives you +20 agi (gloves, belt, feet)
    you are over hitcaped

    6/10

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...3%ADk/advanced

    I got both 378 crossbows but FD sims higher dps with PvP bow (~90dps)

    Glyph of Silencing Shot was for Alysrazor fight

  8. #488
    Quote Originally Posted by Konik View Post
    change enchant on gloves (20 agi)
    gem straight agility unless socket bonus gives you +20 agi (gloves, belt, feet)
    you are over hitcaped

    6/10

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...3%ADk/advanced

    I got both 378 crossbows but FD sims higher dps with PvP bow (~90dps)

    Glyph of Silencing Shot was for Alysrazor fight
    9/10

    Hide-bound chains --> Valor bracers.
    You are a bit high on haste and low on crit as well. After 1235 haste you only need a bit more to account for latency.
    As a troll the PvP bow is definitely the better choice. Good call there.



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    Hoping for Shannox helm this week. Hoping more we do heroic.


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    @ Solidito: Make your next PvP purchase the helm. 384 PvP helm + shoulders is much much much better than 359 pve gears.
    Last edited by Maelstrom51; 2011-09-19 at 12:02 AM.

  9. #489
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelstrom51 View Post
    9/10

    Hide-bound chains --> Valor bracers.
    You are a bit high on haste and low on crit as well. After 1235 haste you only need a bit more to account for latency.
    As a troll the PvP bow is definitely the better choice. Good call there.



    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...azgar/advanced

    Hoping for Shannox helm this week. Hoping more we do heroic.


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    @ Solidito: Make your next PvP purchase the helm. 384 PvP helm + shoulders is much much much better than 359 pve gears.
    Just no. The crit and haste he gets from the pve helm heavily outweighs the amount of agility he gets from the pvp helm. Same for the shoulders.

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...shuri/advanced

    8/10 for giving probably the worst advice I've ever read, and the fact that you aren't using optimal enchants on both your cloak and gloves.

  10. #490
    New to hunters so I won't attempt to rate the above poster but here goes.

    Dinged 2 days ago: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Vecon/advanced
    I understand i'm missing enchants/gems i'm working on getting the gold together for the stupidly expensive prices on my server.

  11. #491
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    New to hunters so I won't attempt to rate the above poster but here goes.

    Dinged 2 days ago: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Vecon/advanced
    I understand i'm missing enchants/gems i'm working on getting the gold together for the stupidly expensive prices on my server.
    Cant really rate you when you havent changed anything on your hunter.

    3 empty glyph slots
    7 unenchanted items
    11 empty sockets in 7 items
    1 non-Mail item

    No items have been reforged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarred View Post
    New to hunters so I won't attempt to rate the above poster but here goes.

    Dinged 2 days ago: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Vecon/advanced
    I understand i'm missing enchants/gems i'm working on getting the gold together for the stupidly expensive prices on my server.
    Quote Originally Posted by Joyful View Post
    Cant really rate you when you havent changed anything on your hunter.

    3 empty glyph slots
    7 unenchanted items
    11 empty sockets in 7 items
    1 non-Mail item

    No items have been reforged.
    major glyphs aren't gamebreaking, just get them as fast as possible
    Atleast try to enchant and gem + reforge the epic items (i know you are getting the money for it)
    and replace that leather helmet, you are loosing +5% agility of that. (mail bonus)

    as for gems, gem +40agi in all except when socket bonus is +20agi( ==> red=+40agi; blue=+20agi+20hit; yellow=+20agi+20crit)

    I would give you a 4/10 now when you gemmed/enchanted/reforged epic gear i would give you a 6/10.

    Asrialol made a nice mm guide here on mmo-champ: MM-Hunter-Guide-4.2 so you can check that out for more help.

    edit: stopped playing my hunter but you can always rate me huzoin @ anachronos. And i know about the gem in my shoulders, should be +40agi ^^
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  13. #493
    Quote Originally Posted by Maelstrom51 View Post
    Hide-bound chains --> Valor bracers.
    yep, next save .)
    Quote Originally Posted by Maelstrom51 View Post
    You are a bit high on haste and low on crit as well. After 1235 haste you only need a bit more to account for latency.
    low on crit? got crit on every piece except belt due to optimal hit reforging and with valor bracers I'd be >30%

    so you recommend reforge 1250 haste > mastery? we got almost identical gear and FD sims +300dps for my setup (yeah I got 378 head and you have better ring and bracers)

  14. #494
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    Quote Originally Posted by belgicanofl View Post
    Just no. The crit and haste he gets from the pve helm heavily outweighs the amount of agility he gets from the pvp helm. Same for the shoulders.

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...shuri/advanced

    8/10 for giving probably the worst advice I've ever read, and the fact that you aren't using optimal enchants on both your cloak and gloves.
    Assuming your mainspec is surv i think that the haste platoue you should work with is around 750~ish and switch out serpent sting glyph for arcane shot (might have just used it for beth hc as i saw you just got the achi)

    Assuming your mainspec is MM i think the haste platuoe you should work with is around 1235~ish and switch the talents hunter vs wild, survival tactics, entrapment in surv for one with nature, 2/3 bestial disiaplince, 2/3 frenzy in BM. W/o 4pt11 chimera shot is more or less almost always wasted and should be rplaced with RF.

    In general you shouldnt reforge away from crit, you are a tad above hit cap and you can use a agi/hit gem in legs for more hit and same amount of agi but will require a bit of reforging for it to benifit you.

    Bracers should be the valor ones, forked lighting or w/e they are called untill you get your 3rd crystal to make hidebound heroic.

    all in all id say 7/10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joyful View Post
    Assuming your mainspec is surv i think that the haste platoue you should work with is around 750~ish and switch out serpent sting glyph for arcane shot (might have just used it for beth hc as i saw you just got the achi)

    Assuming your mainspec is MM i think the haste platuoe you should work with is around 1235~ish and switch the talents hunter vs wild, survival tactics, entrapment in surv for one with nature, 2/3 bestial disiaplince, 2/3 frenzy in BM. W/o 4pt11 chimera shot is more or less almost always wasted and should be rplaced with RF.

    In general you shouldnt reforge away from crit, you are a tad above hit cap and you can use a agi/hit gem in legs for more hit and same amount of agi but will require a bit of reforging for it to benifit you.

    Bracers should be the valor ones, forked lighting or w/e they are called untill you get your 3rd crystal to make hidebound heroic.

    all in all id say 7/10
    You are refering to T11 amount of haste, which isn't the same for T12. Running at T12 with 750 haste would result in a non optimal rotation. On top of that, I can't reforge lower, simply because my gear doesn't allow me to do so. Next I play MM pvp, not pve, so that spec is fine as it is.

    In a lot of cases you need to reforge away from crit to hit and then a bigger chunk of hit to crit. It's how reforging works.

    If you want an idea, go visit wowreforge.com and see how you are supposed to reforge.

    Next, the boe bracers > valor bracers.

    Your input is way lower ranked than the score you gave me.

    Adios.
    Last edited by mmoc4797852bd6; 2011-09-19 at 08:33 PM.

  16. #496
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    Quote Originally Posted by belgicanofl View Post
    You are refering to T11 amount of haste, which isn't the same for T12. Running at T12 with 750 haste would result in a non optimal rotation. On top of that, I can't reforge lower, simply because my gear doesn't allow me to do so.

    Next I play MM pvp, not pve, so that spec is fine as it is.

    In a lot of cases you need to reforge away from crit to hit and then a bigger chunk of hit to crit. It's how reforging works. If you want an idea, go visit wowreforge.com and see how you are supposed to reforge.

    Next, the boe bracers > valor bracers.

    Your input is way lower than the score you gave me.

    Adios.
    You should get close to 758 haste rating for a 1.66 cast time cobra shot that lets you fit 3x cobra between Explosive shot, this is with a 2sec base cast time on cobra shot (IE not 4p t11).
    You should get Sic´ Em instead of Careful aim due to CA only works with one attack for the first 10% of the fight while sic em works the entire fight and the fact that you got higher crit chanse as SV with the extra agi from talent specilisacion makes it better then it would be for MM.
    You should have agi enchant on back and gloves, you should still replace the gem in your pants.
    On fights exept beth you should use glyph of arcane shot instead of glyph of serpent sting.

    For optimal reforging you should:
    Head: 93 mastery -> hit
    Shoulders: 68 haste -> crit
    Back: 55 hit -> crit
    Chest:97 mastery -> hit
    Bracers:69 haste -> crit
    Gloves:70 haste -> hit
    Belt:77 haste -> crit
    Feet:74 mastery -> hit
    Ring1:No reforging
    Right2:72 haste -> crit
    Melee wep:113 haste -> hit
    Ranged wep:36 haste -> mastery

    With optimal reforging you can loose 4 hit rating (exactly 8% hit).
    With optimal reforging you can gain 84 crit.
    With optimal reforging you can lose a maximum of 316 haste to get to 1108 (And here if you get the valor bracers with crit and mastery you can get even better stats).
    With optimal reforging you can gain 233 mastery.

    You were wrong about my score and the fact that you didnt see that with the facts right under your nose make me change the 7/10 to 4/10 because at your raiding level you should know this your self and not argue back when someone shows it.

    Adios.

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    I'm terrible at giving scores so I'd rather not. :>
    Here is mine though: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Shaani/simple

  18. #498
    Quote Originally Posted by Macasan View Post
    I'm terrible at giving scores so I'd rather not. :>
    Here is mine though: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Shaani/simple
    10/10 Not bad for your progress level! Gems and Reforge are spot-on. Spec is just fine too, although I'd suggest dropping Trueshot aura if possible for 1/2 Rapid Killing for the times you do aoe (Rhyo, Rag).

    I have a minor gripe about your chimera shot glyph though. It's likely not seeing much benefit, so you'd be better off dropping it in favor of rapid fire or even kill shot.

    Aside from that, I take it you've had bad luck with a new polearm/staff? D:

    Here's me btw: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...blade/advanced

  19. #499
    Quote Originally Posted by belgicanofl View Post
    You are refering to T11 amount of haste, which isn't the same for T12. Running at T12 with 750 haste would result in a non optimal rotation. On top of that, I can't reforge lower, simply because my gear doesn't allow me to do so. Next I play MM pvp, not pve, so that spec is fine as it is.

    In a lot of cases you need to reforge away from crit to hit and then a bigger chunk of hit to crit. It's how reforging works.

    If you want an idea, go visit wowreforge.com and see how you are supposed to reforge.

    Next, the boe bracers > valor bracers.

    Your input is way lower ranked than the score you gave me.

    Adios.
    no need to be a dick about it.

    How does 757 haste make a non-optimal rotation then? I'm survival with 800 or so haste and 4 part t12 and i haven't felt any difficulty with my rotation.

  20. #500
    Yeah i suck at giving tips too...
    BUT i came here to get your advice!!
    Tell me what to do to go even further on the meters!
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    And yes, i'm having horrible luck with drops...
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