Cataclysm Release, Dalaran Portals, Cataclysm Epic Stats

Originally Posted by Yörgle

No you won't : http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...&pageNo=10#184

But as I said, it's probably a typo from Boubouille who meant "Hero" (which will be the point we will be able to grind in Cata).

Hero Points are no more, they were renamed to Justice Points. There are 2 types of PvE points - Justice and Valor.

Thank God Cata is coming out Early december! (if it's true, released on the 14th, and yes i know i'm one of the few who are actually happy about this time) Because i'll be finishing up my college finals around that time so it'd be perfect timing! Nothing like rewarding yourself with hours of Cata playing after doing serious finals xD

Originally Posted by Tharaldriel

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1) These are cata items. You're not actually supposed to walk into an expansion with currency enough to fit you with a full set of i346 blues within 5 minutes /played of dinging 85.
2) You will get Justice Points from instances at 85.

I don't see wtf you're on about.

Dude u get justice points by converting frost and triumph emblems, so people with like 200+ f and e emblems already are at advantage cuase they can get those sweet cata items as soon as they hit 85.

The Issue I am having is the fact that they say Cataclysm event itself will happen before the Expansion comes out.....well If I am going to play through the revamped areas I am going to want to be a Worgen, or GOblin, not have to redo it in a month when they become playable....

"Tier 11 Armor sets are bought with tokens and valor points." Makes me sad... I'd hoped we'd moved away from having to roll for tier pieces

Ring of the Battle Anthem is mislabelled as being for melee. Unless melee need dodge rating in Cata, I suspect it's for tanks.

Originally Posted by bricktop123

Sick of hearing this crap from people that are playing the beta. The vast majority of WoW players that weren't lucky enough to get in the Beta would rather play a buggy and unfinished Cataclysm than more months and months of a raid tier that has already gone on twice as long as it should have.

really? the majority...you don't speak for me bro....do you really want your character in phasing limbo unable to interact with the world?...

the game is really buggy atm...those on the beta (not me) while having something to "test" that is new are also putting up with a lot of crap that makes the game almost unplayable for many....really doubt that you would want to play that game

Originally Posted by Pakisunny360

Dude u get justice points by converting frost and triumph emblems, so people with like 200+ f and e emblems already are at advantage cuase they can get those sweet cata items as soon as they hit 85.

True, you got a point there. Then again maybe that's the point - as far as I remember there has never been a honor reset between expansions. Has there? (please advise and correct if there has).

Can't say I am really surprised.
Judging from the state of the PTR, and from what I hear the beta there is plenty of reason why it should be delayed.
It is nowhere near ready, that has been made pretty clear so far.
If 4.0.1 being as broken as it is being any indication, then I can see it being even later tbh, and it is not like I am just jumping on the bandwagon here.
In previous posts I have been saying this for at least the last month.

Good, I hated tier pieces that could be bought with just emblems(points now).

Tokens means people will actually have to raid before caking themselves out in tiers.

So Boub's predicted date has been pushed back. Not that big of a deal

Originally Posted by Pakisunny360

Dude u get justice points by converting frost and triumph emblems, so people with like 200+ f and e emblems already are at advantage cuase they can get those sweet cata items as soon as they hit 85.

the conversion ratio is terrible and the price of those items is very high....there will be no at 85 that will be able to buy pieces the minute they turn 85

I hope patch 4.03 doesn't hit til the week of Cata's launch. So many people are going to be rerolling in Cataclysm, either for one of the new races or one of the new race/class combos, that it'd be better if everyone was doing their levelling at the same time instead of some people getting ahead of everyone else.

Originally Posted by greyghost

The PvP helm is not superior to gear you get in Heroics. Blue items that will come from Heroics will be level 365 and ultimately better-itemized than the PvP gear.

Re-read my original post.

Actually, you're wrong. 346 blue items are equivalent to the 200 blue items from Heroics in WotLK. 333s are the items comparable to 187s, and are the unofficial prerequisite items for heroics. 365 is either a PvP only gear level or equivalent to Heroic-level raiding gear.

Though I agree with you. It's ridiculous for the guy to worry about the very top tier of PvP gear still being crappier than blue items. He's worrying about nothing.

Originally Posted by bricktop123

Sick of hearing this crap from people that are playing the beta. The vast majority of WoW players that weren't lucky enough to get in the Beta would rather play a buggy and unfinished Cataclysm than more months and months of a raid tier that has already gone on twice as long as it should have.

Yea, it makes total sense for Blizzard to release it like that.

GOGO 100g per mage portals

Originally Posted by Tharaldriel

True, you got a point there. Then again maybe that's the point - as far as I remember there has never been a honor reset between expansions. Has there? (please advise and correct if there has).

You´re correct, there has only been arena-point resets each go, honor has never been reset.

Originally Posted by Tharaldriel

True, you got a point there. Then again maybe that's the point - as far as I remember there has never been a honor reset between expansions. Has there? (please advise and correct if there has).

AS far i know honor points have been reset before, yes they did get reset for Wrath launch but not badges.

No portals, yay or nay?



yay

I hope they put AH in shat and dalaran if not then i am going to be back to needing a bank alt to do all my AH stuff when i level alts

Well, first of all...to the ones already complaining that Blizzard doesnt release Cataclysm to suit your schedule - Get over it ! As it always happens, they release their games when they are done. Write it down FFS. Its nothing new !

Second of all, this isnt an official release date, its an educated guess. Dont slam Boub for "telling" you there was another educated guess that the release date _COULD_ be november 2nd. He relayed into he had to you, and its not HIS fault you decided to take it as gospel !

To me, it has always been unlikely that the release would come a week and a half after Blizzcon (where the release date would most likely be announced), but thats just my oppinion.

But please stop throwing your toys out of the pram and QQ because the world doesnt revolve around you. I got news for you. It never has, and it never will. DEAL with it.

For the record, im also tired of raiding IC, but im also mature enough to know that whining about things you cant change anyway, is a complete waste of time (in this case the release date of Cataclysm). Why dont you print out a picture of "insert what part of Blizard you hate here", put it on a dartboard or a sandbag and get your frustrations out that way instead of spewing your vile crap all over forums