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Rob Pardo: The Next WoW Expansion is Going to be Awesome
It seems things are already in motion for the next World of Warcraft expansion and Rob Pardo is more involved this time!



Brawler's Guild Updates
The Horde Brawler's Guild was updated in the latest PTR patch, making it less plain looking. It is clearly still in the middle of changes, as a wall is missing and some NPCs are floating. Milhouse Manastorm will be making his return as one of the harder bosses you get to fight!



Pet Battle Rankings
If pet battles are not already exciting enough for you, maybe these rankings will help. WoWProgress added pet battle rankings this week, based on the number, quality, and level of the pets you have collected. The top ranked players are nearing 20 rare level 25 pets!

Along with this, we updated WoWDB to show the level at which pets learn a skill, which pets can learn a skill, if a pet can be traded or not, if a pet can battle or not, if a pet is unique or not, and more!




Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Mists of Pandaria Flying for Alts
WTB Book of Pandaren Flying (BoA - requires level 90 to purchase) = 2400gold, PST.
We're not sure if we'll be doing this. The tome worked out well enough for Wrath of the Lich King as an experiment, but so much of the experience we spent a lot of time and effort shaping in Pandaria is negated by flying. In addition to the upcoming reputation changes for alts (when a character on the account hits Revered), we'll consider other methods of potentially speeding up the leveling process for alts, but we don't think "allow flying" is necessarily the best answer. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Updated Raid Schedule Heart of Fear & Terrace
Oct 30: Heart of Fear (N)
Nov 6: Heart of Fear Part 1 (LFR), Heart of Fear (H)
Nov 13: Terrace of Endless Spring (N), Heart of Fear Part 2 (LFR)
Nov 20: Terrace of Endless Spring (LFR), Terrace of Endless Spring (H)


This is correct. It's a similar release to what we did with Mogu'shan Vaults.

Neth, any clue as to what the ilvl requirement's will be for HOF LFR?
The iLevel for the Raid Finder will be a minimum of 470. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blingtron 4000
"The Blingtron 4000 will be fully stocked with a variety of fun items such as Party Grenades, but even better than that, it has a chance (a very, very small one) to give the gift of an Engineering mount or pet."

Does that include the Depleted-Kyparium Rocket and Geosynchronous World Spinner

You are perceptive. There is a very small non-zero chance for a mount or pet from the Blingtron 4000 Gift Package. We heard you like bling so your pal Blingtron may be getting some minor upgrades to their bling in an upcoming patch.

With plenty of bling to go around, share the happiness. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Players Botting
But why would Blizzard ban bots?
They have a active subscription and pay money.
Why would any company reduce their own income on purpose?
It doesn't make sense... Allthough I don't like so many bots either.
But for them to actualy ban most of them, and lose out on so much money
from the botter's subscription.. Would they realy do that. I don't know.

I think Nevalistis summed this up quite well: This is one of the biggest misconceptions we have, and I genuinely wish we could permanently clear it up. I'll provide a few hypothetical situations (mind you, these numbers are ENTIRELY made up).

Let's say 90% of botters were compromised accounts. This means that 90% of these botters aren't paying accounts; they're stolen accounts, which are generally fueled by stolen credit cards. These payments usually get disputed and taken back, which actually costs us money. If we're looking to make a purely fiscal observation, it makes no financial sense to let these continue (aside from the fact that we don't like compromised accounts to begin with - we want our players to be playing their own accounts safely and enjoyably).

Let's go on the other side of the fence and say 90% of these botters were otherwise legitimate players paying for their accounts, as you purport. When players bot, other players are inconvenienced by this behavior (and trust me, you guys outnumber the botters, even if you may feel it's the other way around). The inconveniences range from normal players having difficulty farming on their own to struggling to keep up with an economy that's being forcibly fluctuated via unfair advantage. When players are inconvenienced in this manner, they submit petitions.

Every petition submitted goes to a Game Master for review. A living, breathing person that is paid to provide customer service looks over it, does what's necessary for the situation (in botting cases, usually forwarding the info on to our exploitation/hacks team), and provides a response. Let's say 1-2 people are inconvenienced by a single botter (in all likelihood, we probably get many more petitions per botter than that). This would mean each botter is inconveniencing at least as many, and likely more, players that are positive to the community (the kinds of players we like and want to continue to play our game). For each botter we allow to continue botting, we potentially stand to lose more than we gain for a single subscription, just out of the sheer inconvenience it causes other players.

Even if you change those numbers around of legitimate players versus compromised accounts - we only stand to lose more if we don't take action on bots (which we do, regularly).

And that's probably the problem. If I can stand in front of a guy who's botting who has about as many achievement points as me, then the only reason why he dares to bot is because he does not feel there is a risk of losing anything by doing so.

And the worst part is that right now it's difficult to say that he isn't right.

Those who choose to believe they are above detection range far and wide, I’m sure. Possibly because they may have been getting away with it for a time. However, we investigate every single bot report that comes in. We don't usually deal with the reports immediately because the underlying issue would remain in place.

What we do is study the bots, see exactly how they do what they do, and fix it so that they don’t work anymore. Once we’ve applied the fix, then the ban waves take place. By doing it like this, we can also come up with better methods of detection, and devise systems that are more effective against bot detection and removal.

Having said that, it's an on-going fight. Botters develop new bots by working out what we detected and fixed, and it starts all over again. In the process, we’ve ruled out one way of cheating the system though. I can’t go into much more detail without providing botters with information that would help them (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Death in The Arboretum
Yes, we know it's a little awkward to get back to your corpse here, and we're looking into the placement of the graveyard nearest to the Cloud Serpent dailies. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Warrior (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
Warrior Tanking Feedback
would like to know what about it you like over the cataclysm model.
Getting rage when you use your abilities and not when you get hit and not being constantly at max rage.
Cata felt a bit spammy, constantly hitting cleave or heroic strike to spend rage was not my favourite thing. This got to the point where some players simply macro’ed HS to devastate because it was out of the GCD and still rarely got rage starved.

I’m really enjoying tanking with my warrior right now, I did enjoy it in Cata as well I must say, but it’s just better now, revenge and shield slam feel great, and you can use the rage that they generate for when you really need to minimize damage taken, or, if you feel confident about your survivability you can use that rage with offensive abilities like heroic strike, but it’s the decision making process that I enjoy, rage doesn’t feel free anymore, you actually have to think and make a trade-off, or even predict when you need to save more rage and build it up for a moment where you know it would be effective and efficient to use a mitigation cooldown like shield barrier or shield block, that’s just good design in my opinion. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Questing
Remove class specific quest rewards? When none of the items are an upgrade, I would always chose the one that sells for most
They are all worth the same amount now. (Source)

About questing in a raid group: I'm probably missing something, but what is problematic about people forming "questing raids"?
It is so efficient that it would feel mandatory. Every realm would have a continual Golden Lotus raid etc. (Source)

Will we need to be honored with Wrathion or have to have completed the legendary questline to do his new 5.1 questline?
Wrathion's Legendary questline in 5.1 is a continuation of the 5.0 quests, so you'll have to do them all!

Are you guys happy with the daily system playing such a large role in end-game content?
I think the valor and charms feel good because you can cap them. I think rep itself would be better with a cap. (Source)

Are you considering changing the reputation system? So many dailies are burning us down from the game. Tabards back?
When we tried limits, folks said we were playing nanny. When we tried nothing, folks said they didn't have anything to do. (Source)

World
Why can I not fly in Silvermoon? I cry every time I go back...
It would take months to fix, which means you'd get less other stuff. Challenging for us to justify. Org hard but still easier. We feel like BEs have been neglected a bit lately. We won't forget them. (Source)

The problem for me is that it's one of the situations you talk a lot about avoiding; taking an existing toy away from players. (Loss of increased running speed as a ghost)
It's often easy to make players happy in the short term but not the long term, even though the latter is more important.

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  1. Immitis's Avatar
    whatever they do just please give me demon hunters. i dont care if the expansion is me'dan and the super friends just gimmie meh demon hunters @_@
  1. Ikkarus's Avatar
    "Are you considering changing the reputation system? So many dailies are burning us down from the game. Tabards back?
    When we tried limits, folks said we were playing nanny. When we tried nothing, folks said they didn't have anything to do."


    I really don't like this guy, he must be stupid or something, people are asking for different ways to farm rep, not fast or easy just different, we want to have some options, I don't know why they can't understand that is extremly boring doing thousand of daily quests every day...
  1. mikencarly's Avatar
    Let me ask you people a ? why do most people think mmos are for a short term only you honestly think mmos are short term really??? i hate to break it to the people who don't know but ALL mmos are to keep you playing for as long as you keep playing it they have no reasons to stop pumping out expansions inless there not enough people playing it to make it worth making anymore epansions look at everquest for they have what now 14 expansions maybe more soon and that barely has 250k people at best i can easyily see wow makeing atleast that many as well maybe more period.
  1. MrKnubbles's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Wraylas View Post
    Poossibly WoW: the emerald dream, then wrap it up. Or is it to soon?
    Too soon. I think we've got two expansions left. 95 then 100. I don't think they'll increase level cap past 100.

    90-95 may be a demon expansion with love for Outland. New dungeons and raids out there, possibly another planet to visit or maybe Outland crashes into another planet, giving us more land to explore and the "cataclysm" treatment to 60-70 content. Those are just my guesses and opinions.
  1. Katharine's Avatar
    Blizzard's disgraceful excuses for the lack of being able to fly in Quel'Thalas reminds me of the crap that comes out of Obama's mouth.
  1. Ryme's Avatar
    Emerald Dream is wrapped in lore afaik, I would put a decent bet on it being something to do with the burning legion's return, we've had so many hints to it now.
  1. Evory's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by MrKnubbles View Post
    Too soon. I think we've got two expansions left. 95 then 100. I don't think they'll increase level cap past 100.

    90-95 may be a demon expansion with love for Outland. New dungeons and raids out there, possibly another planet to visit or maybe Outland crashes into another planet, giving us more land to explore and the "cataclysm" treatment to 60-70 content. Those are just my guesses and opinions.
    And why wouldn't they increase level cap past 100 (or release more expansions for that matter) they even said so themselves a lot of times now, as long as people are playing the game, they will keep making expansions.
  1. SpongeGuard's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by mikencarly View Post
    Let me ask you people a ? why do most people think mmos are for a short term only you honestly think mmos are short term really??? i hate to break it to the people who don't know but ALL mmos are to keep you playing for as long as you keep playing it they have no reasons to stop pumping out expansions inless there not enough people playing it to make it worth making anymore epansions look at everquest for they have what now 14 expansions maybe more soon and that barely has 250k people at best i can easyily see wow makeing atleast that many as well maybe more period.


    EQ is actually coming out with its 19th expansion soon, Rain of Fear. They've released 1-2 expansions per year since 1999. As for subscribers, I believe they've been solid at around 80k for the last 2-3 years.
    Just further cementing your point
  1. Immitis's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Katharine View Post
    Blizzard's disgraceful excuses for the lack of being able to fly in Quel'Thalas reminds me of the crap that comes out of Obama's mouth.
    silvermmon on average has like 10 people in it on non rp realms. spending months to revamp it would be a waste even though id like it added.
  1. Gneisha's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Katharine View Post
    Blizzard's disgraceful excuses for the lack of being able to fly in Quel'Thalas reminds me of the crap that comes out of Obama's mouth.
    Disgraceful excuses? Do you have any idea what they'd need to do to let you fly there? It's not just flipping a switch.

    The whole zone would need to receive revamp treatment, which would take months like he said, from the artists and the designers to the people that implement the changes plus tons of internal testing to make sure there aren't odd spots or problems while flying, and nothing that looks strange from the air. Then it would go on the PTR for public testing and any problems there would have to be addressed.

    So please don't spout off like you think they're holding something easily fixed back from you. It's not like they're doing it out of spite, they want to focus their attentions on something else. A zone without flying but that otherwise functions is no reason to go back and spend all that time fixing it just so the few people that actually populate the place can get around a little faster. I'm sure one day it will be fixed, but I would rather they worked on new raids, quests, and other new things then implementing flying in one little zone to make a few whiners happy.

    /rant
  1. Raeion's Avatar
    It's obvious that the next expansion is going to be about burning legion ( with all these locks quest chains and black temple ) what excites me is the fact that Lichking ties into the burning legion as well ! And i love lichking and scourge and then after that is sargares and end of wow
  1. Immitis's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Raeion View Post
    It's obvious that the next expansion is going to be about burning legion ( with all these locks quest chains and black temple ) what excites me is the fact that Lichking ties into the burning legion as well ! And i love lichking and scourge and then after that is sargares and end of wow
    wow isnt ending anytime soon
  1. nyc81991's Avatar
    I am willing to bet the next expansion will be Burning Legion based and we will go to Argus to meet up with Alleria and Turalyon. I also think Illidan will be involved as well.
  1. noxatron's Avatar
    MoP is already a huge upgrade from cata so I'm excited.
  1. andy_mitchelluk's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Dajmedol View Post
    Well guys, MOP was fun, prepare to grind one raid for the next year until a new expansion comes out...
    It's not so much of a mindless grind if people stop clearing content in the first week.

    And there's MUCH more to the game besides raiding.

    I've been playing for over 5 years and I can honestly say I've not had any issues with raid grinding purely because I've always been in social raiding guilds.
    We might not get the heroics cleared but we certainly have fun throughout the whole expansion, which is what the game should be about.

    ---------- Post added 2012-10-29 at 01:18 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Wraylas View Post
    Poossibly WoW: the emerald dream, then wrap it up. Or is it to soon?
    It's never too soon. Unless Ragnaros says otherwise
  1. Pacster's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Raeion View Post
    It's obvious that the next expansion is going to be about burning legion ( with all these locks quest chains and black temple ) what excites me is the fact that Lichking ties into the burning legion as well ! And i love lichking and scourge and then after that is sargares and end of wow
    No, not the lichking again. The longer the storylines around him lasted the less logical they got(new Naxx, dks, the role of the undead, a dragon fire burned dude who should be dead and becomes new lichking...no idea how he even got there in that exact moment). Arthas was great as the big evil lurking somewhere in the north during classic and BC...the finish in wotlk was epic, but the story telling was really questionable and I don't need to add another chapter to that one with a burning lichking sitting on an ice throne....really not.
  1. Alayea's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Fixup View Post
    Burning Legion please! Couldn't ask for anything else
    I agree. It's been a long while since our adventures in Outlands - the Burning Legion ought to have had enough time to recuperate from the setbacks.

    And just to add: Please do not touch Outlands. Enough with removing content from the game!
  1. Bahska's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacster View Post
    The whole zone would need to receive revamp treatment, which would take months like he said, from the artists and the designers to the people that implement the changes plus tons of internal testing to make sure there aren't odd spots or problems while flying, and nothing that looks strange from the air. Then it would go on the PTR for public testing and any problems there would have to be addressed.
    Not to mention taking it off the TBC server and adding it to the eastern kingdoms server that alone would be a pain.
  1. Ferocity's Avatar
    I am not surprised that Rob Pardo will be back in WoW. After all, Cata and Mop made a lot of ruckus among players, and even number of subscriptions had to be somewhat "cheated". It is we, who see only quarterly reports of "cheated" amount of subs, Blizzard watches this number, as also all suggestions and feedback, on weekly basis, and Blizzard had to admit that WoW isn't in right hands now. But I am not quite sure that comeback of Pardo will fix all the damage done to the game.
  1. Thalais's Avatar
    So, WoW's newest expansion is so bad that the devs are already looking at the next cash cow, i mean expansion to draw from the idiots that throw their money at a very old and out dated game.

    Sorry for the insults, but all of you playing wow, really should get with the picture. Old game CHECK, Same glaring problems with said OLD game CHECK, Still sending your $15 a month to nerd-rage on youtube about how MoP sucks and Cata or other expansions were better PRICELESS. When you have no life and need to waste your money, get a VISA card, accepted by the money driven greed company called Blizzard. They say they will fix it, but we all know they wont.

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