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Patch 5.2 Valor Gear
Patch 5.2 brings us new gear purchased with Valor Points from the Shado-Pan Assault. They will offer a variety of item level 522 gear starting from Neutral reputation all the way up to Revered. Reputation is earned mostly from killing raid bosses, including LFR bosses.

You can purchase these items from Ao Pye in Townlong Steppes. It is possible that Teng of the Flying Daggers will also sell them in the future, but she currently only sells the Grand Commendation. Currently the only reward at Exalted is the Shado-Pan Assault Tabard.

Prices are the same as they have been for Valor gear recently: 1250 for the Necks/Wrists/Rings, 1750 for the Hands/Trinkets/Shoulders/Rings, and 2250 for the Chest/Legs.

Level Type Spec Slot Name Req. Standing
522NeckTankNeck Vanguard's BattletagsNeutral
522NeckMeleeNeck Striker's BattletagsNeutral
522NeckSpell SpiritNeck Mender's BattletagsNeutral
522NeckPhysical DPSNeck Flanker's BattletagsNeutral
522NeckSpell DPSNeck Destroyer's BattletagsNeutral
522TrinketTrinket Steadfast Talisman of the Shado-Pan AssaultFriendly
522TrinketTrinket Vicious Talisman of the Shado-Pan AssaultFriendly
522FingerTankFinger Loop of the Shado-Pan AssaultFriendly
522FingerMeleeFinger Band of the Shado-Pan AssaultFriendly
522FingerSpell SpiritFinger Ring of the Shado-Pan AssaultFriendly
522FingerPhysical DPSFinger Seal of the Shado-Pan AssaultFriendly
522TrinketPhysical DPSTrinket Brutal Talisman of the Shado-Pan AssaultFriendly
522FingerSpell DPSFinger Signet of the Shado-Pan AssaultFriendly
522TrinketSpell DPSTrinket Soothing Talisman of the Shado-Pan AssaultFriendly
522TrinketSpell DPSTrinket Volatile Talisman of the Shado-Pan AssaultFriendly
522ClothSpell SpiritWrists Bracers of Shielding ThoughtFriendly
522ClothSpell DPSWrists Troll-Burner BracersFriendly
522LeatherSpell SpiritWrists Hearthfire ArmwrapsFriendly
522LeatherPhysical DPSWrists Willow-Weave ArmbandsFriendly
522MailSpell SpiritWrists Spiritcaller CuffsFriendly
522MailPhysical DPSWrists Powderburn BracersFriendly
522PlateTankWrists Axebinder WristguardsFriendly
522PlateMeleeWrists Bonecrusher BracersFriendly
522PlateSpell SpiritWrists Softscar ArmplatesFriendly
522BackTankBack Many-Layered ScalecloakHonored
522BackMeleeBack Spikeshard GreatcloakHonored
522ClothSpell SpiritLegs Wisp-Weave PantaloonsHonored
522ClothSpell SpiritHands Ghostbinder GripsHonored
522BackSpell SpiritBack Dreamweaver DrapeHonored
522BackPhysical DPSBack Longshot ForestcloakHonored
522ClothSpell DPSLegs Charfire LeggingsHonored
522ClothSpell DPSHands Flameweaver HandwrapsHonored
522BackSpell DPSBack Shadowspike CloakHonored
522LeatherPhysical DPSLegs Legguards of Hidden KnivesHonored
522LeatherPhysical DPSHands Daggerfinger ClutchesHonored
522LeatherSpell DPSLegs Trousers of Waning ShadowHonored
522LeatherSpell DPSHands Gloves of Enduring RenewalHonored
522MailPhysical DPSLegs Homeguard LeggingsHonored
522MailPhysical DPSHands Gauntlets of the LongbowHonored
522MailSpell DPSLegs Kilt of Rising ThunderHonored
522MailSpell DPSHands Totemshaper GlovesHonored
522PlateTankLegs Thunderbreaker LegplatesHonored
522PlateTankHands Stoneward HandguardsHonored
522PlateMeleeLegs Vaultbreaker GreavesHonored
522PlateMeleeHands Bloodstained SkullsqueezersHonored
522PlateSpell DPSLegs Legguards of RenewalHonored
522PlateSpell DPSHands Touch of Soothing MistsHonored
522ClothSpell SpiritShoulders Halo-Graced MantleRevered
522ClothSpell SpiritChest Robes of Misty BindingsRevered
522ClothSpell SpiritWaist Girdle of Glowing LightRevered
522ClothSpell DPSShoulders Frost-Kissed ShoulderwrapsRevered
522ClothSpell DPSShoulders Shoulders of Demonic DreamsRevered
522ClothSpell DPSChest Fire Support RobesRevered
522ClothSpell DPSWaist Firestrike CordRevered
522LeatherSpell SpiritShoulders Heartroot ShoulderguardsRevered
522LeatherSpell SpiritChest Raiment of Silent StarsRevered
522LeatherSpell SpiritWaist Martiean's Splitleaf GirdleRevered
522LeatherPhysical DPSShoulders Wallwalker SpauldersRevered
522LeatherPhysical DPSChest Roofstalker ShadowwrapRevered
522LeatherPhysical DPSWaist Darkfang BeltRevered
522MailSpell SpiritShoulders Lightning Strike MantleRevered
522MailSpell SpiritChest Skinsealer TunicRevered
522MailSpell SpiritWaist Cracklebite LinksRevered
522MailPhysical DPSShoulders Targetblinder SpauldersRevered
522MailPhysical DPSChest Carapace of Segmented ScaleRevered
522MailPhysical DPSWaist Nightflight ChainRevered
522PlateTankShoulders Sparksmasher PauldronsRevered
522PlateTankChest Breastplate of Brutal StrikesRevered
522PlateTankWaist Reinforced Spiritplate GirdleRevered
522PlateMeleeShoulders Sightblinder ShoulderguardsRevered
522PlateMeleeChest Gianttooth ChestplateRevered
522PlateMeleeWaist Swordhook SlingbeltRevered
522PlateSpell SpiritShoulders Shoulderguards of PotentiationRevered
522PlateSpell SpiritChest Hauberk of Gleaming FireRevered
522PlateSpell SpiritWaist Waistplate of Channeled MendingRevered
1Other Grand Commendation of the Shado-Pan AssaultRevered
1TabardTabard Shado-Pan Assault TabardExalted


Warlock Green Fire Toggle
Once you have earned Green Fire, you will be able to disable it by speaking with Jubeka Shadowbreaker in Shadowmoon Valley.



Isle of the Thunder King: PTR Unlock Schedule
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Pandaria, her hills of gold
In dark and mournful times of old
Did once a hopeless horror hold

When from her sacred vale did spring
With storm and flash, a monstrous thing!
His name, Lei Shen: The Thunder King.

World of Warcraft Path 5.2: The Thunder King is almost here. The Kirin-Tor Offensive, led by Jaina Proudmoore, and the Sunreaver Onslaught, championed by Lor’themar Theron, are converging on the Isle of the Thunder King to topple the first emperor before he can wreak havoc across Pandaria. Their campaign will march slowly across the island, unlocking new content over time.

We’re ready to test the full breadth of the island, and that’s where you come in: Players who participate on the Public Test Realm can enjoy an accelerated unlock schedule, blasting from the beach to the shores and into the Thunder King’s inner citadel in a matter of a few short weeks. By participating, you’ll be a great asset to Jaina and Lor’themar. More importantly, you’ll help us knock out any nasty problems with the island and its progression before we go live.

Transfer over a character and report to the Vale of Eternal Blossoms for instructions !

Below is a tentative unlock schedule. This is of course subject to change and does not reflect patch release dates.

Active – PTR set to stage 0. The Sunreavers and Kirin-Tor will besiege the island from offshore.
Feb 8 – PTR set to Stage 1. You’ll be able to conquer a foothold on the island itself.
Feb 12– PTR set to stage 2. With your help, Jaina and Lor’themar will blast the walls and infiltrate the outer city.
Feb 15– PTR set to stage 3. Daring players can infiltrate the mines and blast open the doors to the Thunder Forge.
Feb 19 – PTR set to stage 4. Block further Zandalari reinforcements by overtaking the shipyard.
Feb 22 – PTR set to stage 5. Fight your way to the Thunder King’s front door! Jaina and Lor’themar will have a ... reckoning.

Question for you Nethaera. With the wording for Stage 5, does this indicate that the Raid itself will not be open until the push has progressed to where we are "at the Thunder Kings front door" making the launch of the raid 2+ weeks after the launch of the patch itself?
As far as I'm aware (last I heard caveat and all that) the Island unlocks do not affect the Raid availability. The Island unlocks will affect some other things (of course.)

Isle of the Thunder King and Isle of Giants
Dave Kosak recently answered a few questions about how the Isle of the Thunder King and Isle of Giants will work.



Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
PvP and the Global Cooldown
But personally I would find it annoying when there on global cooldown, especially with raiding. Makes them feel...........Clunky :P
This is quite true, having these types of abilities on the global cooldown would probably make them feel clunky, on top of that it can waste part of the time that they are active in order to begin utilising them. Also remember that these "Swifty" macros are an all or nothing venture, they are not a guaranteed "I-win" button.

When a player pops all of their cooldowns in one big hit, they are taking the risk of simply wasting them because their opponents go on the defensive. The choice to use a cooldown is exactly that, a choice, and it can backfire. When it backfires, the player using the cooldowns feel they should be compensated because their damage is now lower and they feel their cooldowns need to be up again to be useful. When it works however, the person that's on the other end feels it’s completely unfair, even if they are able to survive it at other times through their own reactions and defensive abilities.

That chance and randomness in fighting people with different skill levels to counter and react to the strategies of another is part of what makes PvP more engaging and exciting. If it were simply about looking at someone’s output versus another person’s output and declaring a winner on potential damage done, then it would make the gameplay stale because you would always be able to know the winner beforehand. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

World of Warcraft Difficulty Changes Feedback
Complexity gives people more to learn, thus prolonging the life of a game because every time you think you've mastered something, there's always something new to learn.
Throw too much complexity to a game, and then suddenly you're not prolonging its life, but rather, overwhelming newcomers.

The people that are usually the most adamant against complexity are the ones that don't have the patience to learn something properly and demand that it be lowered to their level so they can "enjoy everything right off the bat".
As long as you have a challenge at some level on the game (for some it will be Heroic Sha of Fear, for others it will be Shado-Pan Monastery Challenge Mode trying to get gold, for others it'll be Garalon Normal, for others getting to 2.5k rating on PVP... I could go on) what's the harm if things are made more accessible to other players? (As long as you have your challenge)

The LFR is a great example of this, instant gratification with absolutely no commitment required. No preparation required, no need to know what the bosses do, no nothing. Just go in, spam 3-4 buttons and you're done.

And you want this to be encouraged? Christ, modern gamers make the mind boggle.

It's not quite instant gratification (you have to defeat the boss, do the whole run, etc etc), neither on the same level of rewards that players get for completing Normal of Heroic content.

I disagree. Lets look at raids (I didnt do any at MOP, but know them quite well). At Vanilla it took a good guild to clear a new raid several weeks. A medicore guild or casual, some months. Today you join the LFR and a few hours later you have finished the content. Do you see the big difference there? In vanilla you were busy for many weeks, today for several hours.

In vanilla you had a real competition within your faction. You always had to be better than the other players, you had to win a lot and these BG´s did last 1 or 2 hours. Today you have 5 min arena games where a fotm wins. But even if you dont win, you will be a winner at the end of the season. Again, its missing the depth.

That's not depth. Content in vanilla required more preparation, but bosses were much, much easier than today's Heroic content.

The duration of the content doesn't have much to do with the depth of the game. In fact, there's much more depth and complexity in overcoming your opposition on a Rated Battleground today (as strategies keep evolving as the community does and teams can be very coordinated) as opposed to trying to cap Lumber Mill for the 100th time with a bunch of strangers that refuse to stay in their bases and would rather camp the roads.

I dont deny that you can do more things today, but the "how" is what matters and there wow has lost a lot of its depth and fun.
Many of the things that have been mentioned on discussions like this have to do with "the grind" more than the activity itself.

Was Battleguard Sartura a fun encounter in Ahn'Qiraj? Sure, it was.
Was it incredibly fun to farm the resistance sets required for some bosses back then? I'm not so sure there's going to be a common agreement there... (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
PvE
Would it be too complex to make 10 baseline and increase dungeon diff linearly for every extra player until 25?
Worry that it wouldn't scale that naturally. Would suck to see: You need 12 for boss 1, 10 for boss 2, then 20 for boss 3. (Source)

Why do you think a random token is any less exciting than a random item? That almost sounds sadistic.
Depends perhaps whether you like gift cards or actual gifts for holidays. (Source)

If the rewards don't incentivise 25s, should the next approach be to make it easier to find raiders?
Making it easier to find raiders is great all the way around, but seems like it benefits 10s just as much. (Source)

understand thunderforged but not a fan yet. 522 normal gear is extreme though, no? try 509/513 or something, feels bad at 522.
Can you elaborate on the issue? Why is 522 a bad number? (Source)

Just wondering if you will have to have downed Sha of Fear to enter Trollduar and will the req IL be 500? (for normal mode)
There is no ilevel or sha requirement for normal mode, though it will be harder if you're undergeared of course. (Source)

Has there been any discussions to make an exclusive 10s and 25s? The gear could be the same but the bosses would be different
You would get half as many bosses (or patches would take us twice as long). (Source)

I thought the Justice/Valor point system was the mechanic to ensure even unlucky people got loot from raiding.
In N or H, usually your friends will eventually take pity on you. In LFR, you theoretically could fail every roll forever. (Source)

PvP
IMO, PvP would be better with more casting and interrupting than more instants and immunities. Going to be a tough sell though. (Source)

"Tyrannical Primal Diamond"Please just leave stuff like this out of PvP. Adding a gem like this makes no sense at all!
You'd rather complete the raid quest chain to get a gem? (Source)

I'm confused. I thought you were going away from PvE manditory for PvP? Whats with new meta gems?
The PvP gem won't require raiding. (Source)

Is dueling healthy for the community? It's not balanced, so it serves little purpose.
It's fun for a lot of players. That serves a purpose. (Source)

"also want to reiterate that we see very little PvP participation during the PTR"erm WHAT?you know that we cant PvP on PTR atm
I can't remember how many major patches I've been through. A dozen? This is an eternal issue not a 5.2 issue. (Source)

Why was removing blanket silence reverted? It would have solved a lot of issues with CC and locking out and smooth out thegame
I tried to explain in US PTR forum. This was one of those deals where many high-end players thought we were making a mistake. (Source)

Grand Empress Kill Video
Fifth Element of Stormrage-US came up with a unique intro for their Grand Empress kill video.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Patch 5.2 Valor Gear, PTR Isle of the Thunder King Unlock Times, Blue Posts, Video started by chaud View original post
Comments 45 Comments
  1. Lemonpartyfan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Cows For Life View Post
    The broadband market isn't inaccessible to newcomers either. To compete with the likes of Time Warner or AT&T, all one needs to do is negotiate tens of thousands of property easements and raise tens of billions in capital to build out a fiber backbone and a last mile network. Other than that, it's technically accessible to any newcomer.

    You're just being dense. If you were late to the game, there were massive barriers to enter current content. Having to spend weeks (if not months) praying to the RNG gods while you were being carried for gear on top of spending weeks of your own time grinding out rep and resist gear and such before you could even carry your own weight in a raid was a pretty big wall.
    Are you really comparing raiding in Vanilla to raising billions of dollars, and then accuse me of being dense LOL?

    So what you are saying, is you had to spend time getting gear? Oh, that doesn't sound inaccessible in this slightest.
  1. Summerdrake's Avatar
    So, current valor gear and npc will be removed once 5.2 hits, not converted to justice?..only way to gear up is from raids?
  1. Foto's Avatar
    I hope this starts a competition for the utmost ridiculous and best kill video/intro to raid videos. I miss the guides of L2R with pun after pun so this will have to do until then
  1. chaud's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Summerdrake View Post
    So, current valor gear and npc will be removed once 5.2 hits, not converted to justice?..only way to gear up is from raids?
    It is discounted, not removed.
  1. Gilian's Avatar
    Yes this is what I want. 522 ilvl gear I have to farm again after 3 months of raiding normal/heroic. Thanks!

    ---------- Post added 2013-02-10 at 10:24 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Adramalech View Post
    Don't quote me on this, but I believe the 476 gear from Sunreavers/Kirin Tor is bought with gold, not valor points, making it more akin to pre-MoP factions. The 522 gear is bought with valor, but not the 476. I approve of that, honestly. The item level isn't absurdely high for an item bought with gold, but it allows for alts to easily prepare themselves for ToT, or for mains to cover some slots with which they have been really unlucky.
    Why do they insist that players go grind valor every freaking tier. What is fun about that? Have fun doing your heroics AGAIN. Like it wasn't boring enough already.

    I have been raiding normal/heroic for three months and now you are telling me that I can buy gear 20-22 ilvls higher, and for some pieces even higher than that, for valor by doing some boring mindless heroic dungeons? Why is there no massive whining from raiders? Do people actually enjoy that?

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