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Armory Stats - Heroic Siege of Orgrimmar Progression
Today we are taking a look at the Heroic Siege of Orgrimmar progression of players. Now that achievements are account wide, we can group characters by account and get an idea of what percentage of players (not characters) have defeated a boss on Heroic difficulty at least once, based on earning the achievement.

The data used today is a sample made up of 6.2 million characters from 2.2 million accounts, with at least one character active after November 26. The sample is slightly biased, as players who are not in a guild are much less likely to appear in our sample. You can leave suggestions for future stat posts in the comments!

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Blizzard CS - Callback Support
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker)
On Thursday, January 9, Blizzard is launching a new callback-based system for players who need phone support. This is a big change from our traditional phone support, so we wanted to provide some details about this service.

How will the callback system work?
Instead of calling a number (and potentially waiting on hold) for support, you’ll use the support site on Battle.net to set up a callback. Just enter information about your issue, along with your phone number, and a Game Master will give you a call back!

How will the callback system benefit me as a player?
You won’t have to navigate a phone menu or spend time on hold. Since the support site collects critical details in advance (like the answer to your security question), you’ll jump directly into problem solving.

What will happen to Blizzard Customer Support’s existing phone numbers after this change?
Our phone lines will no longer present their current menu system, and will instead play a brief message directing users to the support site.

We hope you enjoy using the new service to get help when you need it!

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Classes
I like the current tank system. Gathering resources and use them wisely for defense. Would tank also keep this system in WOD?
Yep, you're describing the Active Mitigation concept, which we think was quite successful, and want to continue and improve upon. (Source)

Safeguard, Hand of Sac, etc. are neat tricks that let me save lives even when I'm not in front of the dragon.
Tools like that are fun, agreed. We also hope to significantly reduce the amount of time that tanks spend not-tanking. (Source)

Would help if fights weren't just "taunt at X debuffs" so the second tank didn't feel like a vestigial organ.
We 100% agree. (Source)

Hunter (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
any chance hunters will be getting new skin or species for spell haste? Asked for sporebat all the time & it creeps me out
Maybe, in a new family. There are (almost) dupe fams already (so precedence!), and with new beasts showing up all the time... (Source)

Oh and gyreworms! Elemental sure, but clearly bestial in spirit! They'd fit easy in the worm family!
They would. That said, I'm unhappy with the obviously-Elemental stuff that has already been classified as Beast. But that's just me! (Source)
Well since survival is already pretty heavily elemental, maybe make the bestial elementals short term summons for that spec?
I'm all for special pet groups (undead, mechanical, elemental etc.) w/ appropriate conditions. But shale spider = beast?! OH COME ON (Source)
Let me ask from a different angle. Why does it "have" to make sense as a beast for a hunter to befriend it?
For the same reason priests can't use swords: BECAUSE REASONS. But seriously, it's a flavor/fantasy thing. Less logic, more feels. (Source)
I don't think it's quite on par with priests with swords. Hunters tame wild creatures as companions to fight alongside them.
Both are 100% shenanigans; arbitrary rules made to create a certain feel/fantasy/design. There's no reasoning them out beyond that. (Source)
Arbitrary means there was no thought put into it. I give you guys more credit than that.
The "reasoning" is arbitrary: Because they were never trained/their religion forbids it/the monarchy outlawed an armed church/etc. (Source)
The original design/fantasy is intentional, but can't be debated on the basis of its (later) made-up rules; it's working backwards! (Source)

Talbuks NEED to be tameable! Especially in WoD! The fact that they aren't, but goats are, makes me sad
Been years of talks/jokes about an Ungulate (or?) family including rams, goats, talbuks etc. Maybe! (Source)

With or Without You seems like a playstyle choice for MM/Surv hunters rather than a perk. Chance to see it below level 100?
I hope so, but that's me personally. I've always been VERY against game-changers end-game (e.g. original Arcane Blast). (Source)

Monk (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
Quick Monk Question, do MW monks count as Melee right now, or will that only be in WoD?
Yes, they do. (Source)
Any chance of that being extended to other healing specs to avoid an unfair advantage? All healers benefit from being in melee
Unlikely. It's a perk we give to specs intended to be in melee, not an unfair advantage. (Source)
It just feels like something that should be either all healers or none rather than allowing some to ignore mechanics.
There are mechanics that they would have to handle that you don't; a tradeoff for Fistweavers. Just a perk for MW, which is fine. (Source)
But MW aren't required to be in melee to be effective. They could stand at ranged and ignore both melee and ranged mechanics
That's why I said "Just a perk for MW, which is fine." Every difference between classes isn't an "unfair advantage". (Source)

The more I think about it, the less it seems like Statue of the Jade Serpent adds any real gameplay value. Thoughts?
It does a bit for Fistweaving, but is fairly passive otherwise. Doesn't necessarily need to be involved gameplay. (Source)
Do you think it would be more interesting with a shorter radius?
I think many Mistweavers would say that its radius is already short feeling. But, as a gameplay element to be handled, possibly. (Source)

is it possible that maybe we can see fistweavers being able to dual wield in WoD? It would be really awesome imo
Cool look / feel, but that would necessitate all Mistweavers that want to even dabble in Fistweaving to get a second weapon. (Source)
Use "way of the monk"? Doable but possibly not worth the effort; WotM never properly balanced for WW, who all DW.
Another community misconception. Way of the Monk does balance DW vs 2H for Brewmaster and Windwalker, extremely closely. (Source)

MW relies too much on smart heals. MW would be even better if players would have more direct control.
We agree, and think that statement applies to all healers, not just MW. (Source)

I woulf never use AoC on my monk. It onle affects 1 dps ability for us that most monks use sparsely. I use haromms and
WW currently have a couple viable gearing methods. If you are haste stacking, AoC won't likely be optimal for you. That's OK. (Source)

Warrior (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
Will Gladiator be a potential tank stance, or will it have some component to make it purely for dps (e.g., no crit protection)?
We may have a defensive benefit if you take the talent but don't use the stance, so that tanks still have 3 talent choices. (Source)
But if you're using the stancing, getting the DPS benefit, you will not be able to be a full tank. (Source)
So a Prot Warrior can potentially behave like an old Bear-Cat?
No. You can't switch in and out of Gladiator Stance in combat. It's a commitment. (Source)

So Extreme Measures would give Glad Stance to prot who want to DPS, and a stance for DPS wars who want to tank w/2h weps?
Tanks need relatively little in order to function as DPS. But DPS need a lot in order to function as Tanks. (Source)

Any chance we can remove the two stacks of Shield Block and make Shield block 6 sec CD? Would be no different than right now...
That would be extremely different from how it is now, and remove most of the skill involved. (Source)

Arms warriors already have multistrike. It's called mastery. Mimicking other classes is uninspired design.
Similar, but some difference: [100% WD] vs [30% of the triggering attack]. (Source)
Wow, when did mastery get its effectiveness literally doubled and why did nobody tell me?
Oh, apologies. Was out to dinner and forgot that its damage had gone down. Yeah, still 55% WD, not 100%. Point is it's static. (Source)

Art
Are darker nights still on the table? lighting changes everything.
It's ultimately an art call, with input from design if they feel gameplay is negatively impacted. Personally, I liked it dark. (Source)
Maybe a dumb question, but wouldn't it be possibly to just add is an option? Whether you want dark or not?
With new tech, IF they wanted to. Lighting isn't on-the-fly; it's data built into the maps like terrain & skyboxes. (Source)

Are Blood Elves and Draenei being updated? I only see vanilla races on that page
the plan is currently to update them as well, original plan of "vanilla only" changed, need to update page to reflect (Source)

Any chance the Belf models look like Nozdormu's model in Dragon Soul and in the cinematic at the end of the raid??!
Facial hair and tats like that might come later if we're able to make another customization pass. Norz = good place to start (Source)

Character / Items
can older Eng. Trinkets be added? id like to use the Gnomish ShrinkRay or older stuff without swapping Trinks?
I wished those got updated too. Possibly gameplay issues. Lots of (cool) old items effects are "never do again plz." (Source)
didn't think shrinking a target and losing a very tiny bit of AP would be that much of an issue for an item a level 1 can wear
I meant all of them, and "updated" as in new versions that were viable trinkets, which I think could be cooler than simple toys. (Source)

What will happen to legendary meta in wod? 30% haste still sounds better than regular meta's imo
Yeah, legendary meta unusable at level 100. (Source)

Fan Art
Today we have some audio that comes in two versions, one with the violin and one with vocals.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Armory Stats - Heroic SoO Progression, Blizzard CS Callback, Blue Tweets, Fan Art started by chaud View original post
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  1. ZeroWashu's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Frozenbeef View Post
    wow...barely anyone raids heroics...which is kinda funny when you think about it, whiners complain about lfr and want to remove something a large portion of players do yet are completely fine with resources going into something where only a fraction of the player base even aim for let alone achieve...
    One thing that is quickly learned, there are far more water cooler hard cores than actual heroic raiders. Its the same with PvP, far too many who can boast about it but when you dig down the numbers are low and the majority of braggarts never link THEIR armory.
  1. grexly75's Avatar
    Those two videos are awesome, very well done and they do send a chill down ones spine..
  1. Majestian's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroWashu View Post
    One thing that is quickly learned, there are far more water cooler hard cores than actual heroic raiders. Its the same with PvP, far too many who can boast about it but when you dig down the numbers are low and the majority of braggarts never link THEIR armory.
    Indeed. Going by the types of snarky, condescending comments posted here and on the official WoW forums, you'd think half the subscriber base were slogging away inside Heroic SoO.
  1. jimlow's Avatar
    Wow not even half of 1% of the player base has beaten Garrosh. I don't think I have seen numbers that low since Naxx. How many resets are we into patch 5.4 now? I'm waiting for the gradual 30% nerf like dragonsoul. You know its coming, don't even try to deny it.
  1. Shudder's Avatar
    I'm waiting by the phone. Waiting for you to call me up and tell me I'm not alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsjel View Post
    1% or less have killed the last 4 bosses on heroic.
    So all the people complaining here they've got noting to till WoD just happen to be in that 1%? What a coincidence.
    They literally cannot do it. So that's what they're supposed to do for 8 months? Leave LFR and wipe to heroic immerseus 12,000 times? Think before you post.
  1. Moradim's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by jimlow View Post
    Wow not even half of 1% of the player base has beaten Garrosh. I don't think I have seen numbers that low since Naxx. How many resets are we into patch 5.4 now? I'm waiting for the gradual 30% nerf like dragonsoul. You know its coming, don't even try to deny it.
    majority do 10 man, 25 man is easier...not surprising
  1. coolefex's Avatar
    WoW is so fucking easy!! WTF blizz!? RAWR!!
  1. Littleshashi's Avatar
    Hey guys! Some sad man is flaming the vocals-only version of this Peter Hollens video on Youtube. If you liked the video, go over there and thumbs-down that troll into the dirt!
  1. Spike`'s Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by jimlow View Post
    Wow not even half of 1% of the player base has beaten Garrosh. I don't think I have seen numbers that low since Naxx. How many resets are we into patch 5.4 now? I'm waiting for the gradual 30% nerf like dragonsoul. You know its coming, don't even try to deny it.
    normal, many guilds stopped playing in November/December and didn't came back

    Garrosh is no Lich King, almost no one cares about killing him on heroic
  1. Aevyn's Avatar
    Glad I won't be using Callback..
  1. RoKPaNda's Avatar
    So now that we can see how small of a minority heroic raiding is, does anyone still think they need to be catered to? =)
  1. Elrandir's Avatar
    Man screw that tweeting blizzard dude with this new char model update tease, it's been a freaking week. ASAP my ass.
  1. Moradim's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by RoKPaNda View Post
    So now that we can see how small of a minority heroic raiding is, does anyone still think they need to be catered to? =)
    heroic raiding died with arthas and ICC. just hasnt been the same ever since. healers dont even need to be good, cause smart heals do their work for them. and class uniqueness is out the door so people just stack rogues/locks and faceroll it all.

    it isnt "easy", but isnt nearly as good as it used to be. vanilla/bc/wrath are where it peaked, and since cata has been on a steady decline. I blame shared lockouts (killed pugs), and that also killed most 25 man guilds.
  1. xenogear3's Avatar
    Only 7% killed Immerseus.
    LoL all these "LFM SoO flex, link heroic ach or no reply".

    Of course, all MMO-Champion forum users have killed heroic Garrosh.
  1. Elite Peon's Avatar
    Refer to the above graph if anyone says that WOW is to easy ..LOL
  1. JoeShmo's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Skippy88 View Post
    I'm guessing a gold seller of some kind. Either that or someone has a lot of time on their hands. That's what 7 of each class?
    The sad fact..is that it prob would have gone quicker if he had waited until WoD to level all those characters, after having BoA gear be entirely account bound, instead of server bound. Would have saved a lot of time in heroics and whatnot farming for new sets, or saved time leveling without BoA gear.

    If it wasnt a gold farmer..... It has to be the one single guy that always goes "I love leveling in WoW !" on the forums.

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