Trial of Valor Hotfixes, Secondary Stat Changes, Artifact Knowledge, DLC #561

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Patch 7.1 Hotfixes - Trial of Valor
Trial of Valor Normal and Heroic got some nerfs to the Odyn and Helya encounters.



Patch 7.1.5 PTR - Jewelry Secondary Stat Increases
The latest build increases secondary stats scaling with item level on jewelry. You can see one example below and check out the stats of your items on the PTR site.

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Patch 7.1.5 PTR - Secondary Stat Changes
In the latest PTR build, the amount of rating you need per 1% of Critical Strike, Haste, Mastery, and Versatility was changed.

  • Critical Strike - Now requires 400 rating per 1% Critical Strike, up from 350.
  • Haste - Now requires 375 rating per 1% Haste, up from 325.
  • Mastery - Now requires 400 rating per 1 Mastery, up from 350.
  • Versatility - Now requires 475 rating per 1% damage and healing increase, up from 400. Now requires 950 rating per 1% damage taken reduction, up from 800.


Patch 7.1.5 PTR - Artifact Knowledge
Patch 7.1.5 makes catching up on Artifact Knowledge easier for new players and alts!

New Players / Main Character Catch Up

Alt Characters
  • The Artifact Research Compendium items are sold by the Artifact Knowledge researcher in your Order Hall for 1000 x Order Resources.
  • These are BoA items, so you can purchase them on your main character to send to alts.
  • These only allow you to purchase a book with lower Artifact Knowledge than your current Artifact Knowledge level.
  • For example, characters with Artifact Knowledge from 15-19 can purchase Artifact Research Compendium: Volumes I & II, granting their alt Artifact Knowledge 10.


Level Type Name
1Other Artifact Research Synopsis
1Other Artifact Research Compendium: Volumes I-III
1Other Artifact Research Compendium: Volume I
1Other Artifact Research Compendium: Volumes I & II
1Other Artifact Research Compendium: Volumes I-IV


Legion Season 1 Ending Clarifications
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
With today’s announcement of the end of Legion’s first PvP season on December 13, we’d like to clarify a few extra details.

The Elite PvP gear appearance will be the same in Legion Season 2 as it is in Season 1. If you are unable to complete your set in Season 1, you’ll still be able to collect your missing appearances during Season 2.

Additionally, after Legion Season 2 concludes, we’ll be adding the ability to purchase the complete Elite appearance set from a vendor. This will only be made available to players who have earned access to the Elite set by reaching a PvP rating of 2000 or higher in any Rated Battleground or Arena bracket during Legion Season 1 or 2.

Finally, we’d like to clarify that the end of Legion Season 1 and beginning of Legion Season 2 are not tied in any way to the release of Patch 7.1.5. One of our major goals for Rated PvP in Legion is to have PvP seasons change over more regularly, which means we can now transition between seasons without requiring a patch. This transition will occur prior to the release of Patch 7.1.5.

FEEDBACK: Lower Nighthold (Heroic)
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
We're opening up the Nighthold raid on PTR, with Skorpyron, Chronomatic Anomaly, Trilliax, and Spellblade Aluriel available on Heroic difficulty. We'll be leaving these bosses up for a couple of days. Please use this thread to for feedback or bug reports on any of the encounters. When providing tuning feedback, please note the nature of your raid group (e.g. Mythic guild group, PUG, etc.).

Nighthold Testing
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Watcher explain why we should test your dungeon you don't listen to feedback
Well, part of the point of opening Nighthold and leaving it open for a longer period of time is to let groups get in and give contextual feedback on class mechanics, as well as to gather data to help with tuning. If we were solely interested in polishing the encounters, we'd be doing short 1-hour tests that could be observed by the encounter design team in their entirety. But this approach lets a lot more people get in and try things out.

Basically no numerical tuning based on 7.1.5 changes has been done yet: in test builds and development, the primary initial focus tends to be on qualitative design changes, both to allow for time to iterate on them, and because there's a much smaller development window during which we can make large changes to text in tooltips (since everything needs to be translated for the game's different regions before a patch can be finalized). Numbers changes are best done when designs are closer to final (there's little point fine-tuning something that may get ripped out entirely next build), and can be done very late in the PTR cycle. Raid tests like this help tremendously with that process.

The past couple of weeks have been full of distractions, with a long holiday weekend in the middle, and we haven't done a great job of communicating regarding the 7.1.5 class and systems changes. We'll be working to correct some of that in the coming days, but I understand that there's more than a little frustration and distrust to overcome.

In the meantime, I'll rename this thread, and make a new one for Nighthold. Please try to keep that one clear for feedback and logs from the instance, so that everyone can have a more polished experience in the long run. Thanks.

Patch 7.1.5 Warlock Feedback
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Feedback: you're leaving the warlock community out in the cold. Please communicate with us. We are extremely desperate.
We agree with a number of the core concerns raised, but don't have immediate solutions (or those solutions will take more time to design, implement, and test than the 7.1.5 PTR cycle affords). A couple of examples off the top of my head:

  • Steady/predictable Ember generation suited the Destruction rotation well, and something important was lost in the course of unifying the class to use a single shared resource, but fixing that at this point isn't just as simple as rolling everything back to Embers.
  • Mechanics like Demonic Empowerment and Soul Effigy are cumbersome to manage and while they have strong spec-specific theming, the actual gameplay of using them drags down their respective specs.

We're probably too reluctant to acknowledge problems for which we don't yet have a solution to present. But the fact that we haven't yet changed something doesn't mean that we think it's perfect as-is.

Dark Legacy Comics #561
DLC #561 has been released!

This article was originally published in forum thread: Trial of Valor Hotfixes, Secondary Stat Changes, Artifact Knowledge, DLC #561 started by chaud View original post
Published on 2016-12-01 01:24 PM
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  1. Flamez2's Avatar
    try the "Improved blood trader" addon that lets you shift click the item and buy 200 at a time.
  1. chaud's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Incandio View Post
    What does "When used in conjunction with all unused Artifact Research documents" mean? Sounds like you have to have the things sitting in your inventory, but if you did why would you need the compendium?
    It uses any research you already have sitting on that character, if any. This way you can't use the book to get to 15 and then use a bunch of past research to get even farther.
  1. mmoc14d85b5354's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by chaud View Post
    It uses any research you already have sitting on that character, if any. This way you can't use the book to get to 15 and then use a bunch of past research to get even farther.
    This makes sense.
    So theoretically if I am at AK 14 I may buy one for 500 ressources to catch up on 15, if I am below 13 it actually makes sense to already buy the compendium.
  1. chaud's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Segaki View Post
    This makes sense.
    So theoretically if I am at AK 14 I may buy one for 500 ressources to catch up on 15, if I am below 13 it actually makes sense to already buy the compendium.
    Almost. You can buy the book for AK 5 when you have AK 14, not the book for AK 15. Once at AK 15, you can buy the book for AK 10.
  1. tussee's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by chaud View Post
    Almost. You can buy the book for AK 5 when you have AK 14, not the book for AK 15. Once at AK 15, you can buy the book for AK 10.
    So if My hunter reaches AK 20 will I then be able to buy: Artifact Research Compendium: Volumes I-IV to get a newly dinged alt to level 20?
    Or is there anything else I need to buy?


    What I'm asking is how many Order hall rescources do I need to get an alt to AK 20?
  1. Airwaves's Avatar
    Whats that? People are stacking one stat?

    Lets nerf them all so they have to stack it even more!
  1. 3DTyrant's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    The comic is spot on. I have no idea what blizzard was thinking putting that goddamn confirmation on purchases.
    It wouldn't be nearly as bad if you could buy more than one (or three, for the mats) of an item at a time.
  1. Myzou's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Thelyron View Post
    Kinda confused about the AK items. If i can buy the items that give me a level of AK, why should i spend another 1000 order resources, just to use them all at once?
    You can buy 1-15 for 500 Resources Each. This is meant for people just joining the expansion on their main.

    For people who have Artifact Knowledge 15 or higher on a main, they can buy items for 1000 Resources that are BoA that instantly grant a character Artifact Knowledge 10.

    If they have AK 20, they can buy an item that instantly grants a character AK 15.

    If they have AK 25, they can buy an item that instantly grants AK 20.

    In short, the BoA ones are meant to be cheaper alternatives for people with alts, and extend further past where you can go with the basic catchup. (as once you hit 25 on your main, you can buy the BoA tome to go all the way to 20 on an alt, instead of 15 500 at a time)

    When 7.1.5 comes out, we'll most likely be at AK21-22, so expect a couple weeks after 7.1.5 being out before you can get to AK20 on alts rather easily.
  1. mmoc14d85b5354's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by chaud View Post
    Almost. You can buy the book for AK 5 when you have AK 14, not the book for AK 15. Once at AK 15, you can buy the book for AK 10.
    Ahhh, I misread the 15 being an actual gate!

    Okay clear now!
    Change in the OP also makes sense.
    Thanks
  1. Sorshen's Avatar
    I'm not sure they understand secondary stats. This will lead to even more stacking.
  1. Goron24's Avatar
    Gotta love how warlocks get dialogue but not fucking rogues
  1. TheDeeGee's Avatar
    Oh man that Blood Trader...

    Why do such a thing?
  1. tugnutt7's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Myzou View Post
    You can buy 1-15 for 500 Resources Each. This is meant for people just joining the expansion on their main.

    For people who have Artifact Knowledge 15 or higher on a main, they can buy items for 1000 Resources that are BoA that instantly grant a character Artifact Knowledge 10.

    If they have AK 20, they can buy an item that instantly grants a character AK 15.

    If they have AK 25, they can buy an item that instantly grants AK 20.

    In short, the BoA ones are meant to be cheaper alternatives for people with alts, and extend further past where you can go with the basic catchup. (as once you hit 25 on your main, you can buy the BoA tome to go all the way to 20 on an alt, instead of 15 500 at a time)

    When 7.1.5 comes out, we'll most likely be at AK21-22, so expect a couple weeks after 7.1.5 being out before you can get to AK20 on alts rather easily.

    Thanks for this, wasn't really clear how it would work from the news story.
  1. anon5123's Avatar
    I guess Dark Legacy Comics doesn't know that there's a macro that presses the "yes" button for you, so you just spam right click -> macro -> right click -> macro
  1. Bullarkie's Avatar
    How does this improve secondary stats? It appears they just bumped everything by 50. Is there another change incoming?
  1. chaud's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by tussee View Post
    So if My hunter reaches AK 20 will I then be able to buy: Artifact Research Compendium: Volumes I-IV to get a newly dinged alt to level 20?
    Or is there anything else I need to buy?


    What I'm asking is how many Order hall rescources do I need to get an alt to AK 20?
    At 20 you will probably be able to buy Artifact Research Compendium: Volumes I-III and get the alt to AK 15. It is always one tier lower than would be useful for you, as it is intended for alts.
  1. mmoc93c1e7e232's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by anon5123 View Post
    I guess Dark Legacy Comics doesn't know that there's a macro that presses the "yes" button for you, so you just spam right click -> macro -> right click -> macro
    You're right, this is much easier and not comical at all for a 2016 game
  1. mmocd1c9020b34's Avatar
    I really never liked the ember system. Felt incredibly slow, especially when leveling/doing things outside a raid boss. Shards are more "unpredictable" but as of now i haven't had any problem, never felt really "stuck" or "out of gems". One thing I would change is the cost of meteor storm down to 2 instead of 3, or stay with 3 but more uptime. I feel like wasting shards when i use it.
  1. Incandio's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by chaud View Post
    It uses any research you already have sitting on that character, if any. This way you can't use the book to get to 15 and then use a bunch of past research to get even farther.
    Ahhhhhhhhhhhh. Of course. Cunning, very cunning. Thanks.
  1. Biggles Worth's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfster View Post
    Wait so to fix the problem is 1 stat being better they actually nerf that stat?? now as a DH with the 5% crit nerf and this nerf i will be needing even more crit than live.....how is that a fix exactly????
    It fixes it by everyone believing WoW and Blizzard is the best and spending 15-20 more dollars in their pockets to keep playing gg
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