Thread: Noblegarden, 04/02 Hotfixes, Blue posts

Noblegarden Comes to Azeroth
The Noblegarden is now live on european servers and will be available in the US in a few hours. Before you read the "guide" you have to keep in mind that this event is very simple and didn't change since last year.

1. Brightly Colored Eggs are hidden in the starting town of each races: Bloodhoof Village, Brill, Falcowing Square, and Razor Hill for the Horde. Azure Watch, Goldshire, Dolanaar, and Kharanos for the Alliance. The eggs are only in this town and will respawn in a few seconds/minutes, it probably won't be enough during the first days of the event because a LOT of players will be camping them. They're hidden in different spots of the town and might be a little hard to find at first, but it becomes very easy when you know what you're looking for.

2. Looting the eggs will give you a

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[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44791"][img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/tiny/achievement_noblegarden_chocolate_egg.gif[/img]Noblegarden Chocolate[/url]

or one of the rare item from the event, you can also buy all of them with the chocolates if you're lucky enough with your eggs. Please note that

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[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/249"][b]Dressed for the Occasion[/b][/url] and [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/248"][b]Sunday's Finest[/b][/url]

will not work if you buy the items from the NPC, you have to find the items in an egg to complete the achievement. (These 2 achievements are NOT part of the Noble Gardener meta-achievement.

3. When you've got enough chocolate to buy all the items you need for the achievements, the only thing left to do is to complete the achievements that require you to travel in other zones/continents :

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[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/2436"][b]Desert Rose[/b][/url]

,

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[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/2419"][b]Spring Fling[/b][/url] / [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/2497"][b]Spring Fling[/b][/url]

and

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[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/2420"][b]Noble Garden[/b][/url] / [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/2421"][b]Noble Garden[/b][/url]

.

The Noblegarden Vendors will let you buy the items you want if you can't find them in eggs.

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<tr class="loot1"><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44818"]Noblegarden Egg[/url]</td><td>5 x [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44791"][img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/tiny/achievement_noblegarden_chocolate_egg.gif[/img]Noblegarden Chocolate[/url]</td></tr>
<tr class="loot2"><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44792"]Blossoming Branch[/url]</td><td>10 x [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44791"][img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/tiny/achievement_noblegarden_chocolate_egg.gif[/img]Noblegarden Chocolate[/url]</td></tr>
<tr class="loot1"><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/6833"]White Tuxedo Shirt[/url]</td><td>25 x [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44791"][img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/tiny/achievement_noblegarden_chocolate_egg.gif[/img]Noblegarden Chocolate[/url]</td></tr>
<tr class="loot2"><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/6835"]Black Tuxedo Pants[/url]</td><td>25 x [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44791"][img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/tiny/achievement_noblegarden_chocolate_egg.gif[/img]Noblegarden Chocolate[/url]</td></tr>
<tr class="loot1"><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/45073"]Spring Flowers[/url]</td><td>50 x [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44791"][img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/tiny/achievement_noblegarden_chocolate_egg.gif[/img]Noblegarden Chocolate[/url]</td></tr>
<tr class="loot2"><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44800"]Spring Robes[/url]</td><td>50 x [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44791"][img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/tiny/achievement_noblegarden_chocolate_egg.gif[/img]Noblegarden Chocolate[/url]</td></tr>
<tr class="loot1"><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/19028"]Elegant Dress[/url]</td><td>50 x [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44791"][img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/tiny/achievement_noblegarden_chocolate_egg.gif[/img]Noblegarden Chocolate[/url]</td></tr>
<tr class="loot2"><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44803"]Spring Circlet[/url]</td><td>50 x [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44791"][img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/tiny/achievement_noblegarden_chocolate_egg.gif[/img]Noblegarden Chocolate[/url]</td></tr>
<tr class="loot1"><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44794"]Spring Rabbit's Foot[/url]</td><td>100 x [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44791"][img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/tiny/achievement_noblegarden_chocolate_egg.gif[/img]Noblegarden Chocolate[/url]</td></tr>
<tr class="loot2"><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44793"]Polymorph: Rabbit[/url] (Mage Only)</td><td>100 x [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44791"][img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/tiny/achievement_noblegarden_chocolate_egg.gif[/img]Noblegarden Chocolate[/url]</td></tr>
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<tr class="nobleloot2"><td>[img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/medium/inv_egg_09.jpg[/img]</td><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/2797"][b]Noble Gardener[/b][/url]
Complete the Noblegarden achievements listed below.
[b]Title Reward: the Noble[/b]</td></tr>
<tr class="nobleloot1"><td>[img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/medium/inv_egg_09.jpg[/img]</td><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/2676"][b]I Found One![/b][/url]
Find a [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/45072"]Brightly Colored Egg[/url]. They're located in the starting town of each races. (Bloodhoof Village, Brill, Falcowing Square, and Razor Hill for the Horde. Azure Watch, Goldshire, Dolanaar, and Kharanos for the Alliance)</td></tr>
<tr class="nobleloot2"><td>[img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/medium/achievement_noblegarden_chocolate_egg.jpg[/img]</td><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/2417"][b]Chocolate Lover[/b][/url]
Eat 25 [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44791"]Noblegarden Chocolate[/url] during the Noblegarden celebration. You can find them in [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/45072"]Brightly Colored Eggs[/url].</td></tr>
<tr class="nobleloot1"><td>[img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/medium/achievement_noblegarden_chocolate_egg.jpg[/img]</td><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/2418"][b]Chocoholic[/b][/url]
Eat 100 [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44791"]Noblegarden Chocolate[/url] during the Noblegarden celebration. You can find them in [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/45072"]Brightly Colored Eggs[/url].</td></tr>
<tr class="nobleloot2"><td>[img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/medium/inv_shirt_08.jpg[/img]</td><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/248"][b]Sunday's Finest[/b][/url]
Discover the [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/6833"]White Tuxedo Shirt[/url] and [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/6835"]Black Tuxedo Pants[/url] by opening [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/45072"]Brightly Colored Egg[/url] during the Noblegarden celebration. The Tuxedo Pants and Shirts can be found in [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/45072"]Brightly Colored Egg[/url] or bought from the Noblegarden Vendor in each starting town.</td></tr>
<tr class="nobleloot1"><td>[img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/medium/inv_chest_cloth_04.jpg[/img]</td><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/249"][b]Dressed for the Occasion[/b][/url]
Discover an [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/19028"]Elegant Dress[/url] by opening [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/45072"]Brightly Colored Egg[/url] during the Noblegarden celebration.</td></tr>
<tr class="nobleloot2"><td>[img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/medium/inv_egg_09.jpg[/img]</td><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/2419"][b]Spring Fling[/b][/url] / [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/2497"][b]Spring Fling[/b][/url]
Find your pet [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44794"]Spring Rabbit[/url] another one to love in each of the towns listed below. After looting your pet from an egg or buying it from the Noblegarden Vendor, just find another player with a rabbit and wait for the [url="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/april/noblegarden_rabbit.jpg"]miracle of love[/url]</td></tr>
<tr class="nobleloot1"><td>[img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/medium/inv_egg_07.jpg[/img]</td><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/2416"][b]Hard Boiled[/b][/url]
Lay an egg in Un'Goro Crater's Golakka Hot Springs as a rabbit during the Noblegarden celebration. You can disguise as a rabbit with [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44792"]Blossoming Branch[/url] found in the [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/45072"]Brightly Colored Egg[/url] or bought from the Noblegarden Vendor.</td></tr>
<tr class="nobleloot2"><td>[img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/medium/inv_egg_06.jpg[/img]</td><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/2420"][b]Noble Garden[/b][/url] / [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/2421"][b]Noble Garden[/b][/url]
Hide a [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44818"]Noblegarden Egg[/url] in Silvermoon City / Stormwind City (Depends on your faction). You can buy an egg for 5 chocolates from the Noblegarden Vendor, you can loot this egg immediately after using it and get one chocolate back from it.</td></tr>
<tr class="nobleloot1"><td>[img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/medium/inv_misc_flower_02.jpg[/img]</td><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/2422"][b]Shake Your Bunny-Maker[/b][/url]
Use [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/45073"]Spring Flowers[/url] to place rabbit ears upon females of at least 18th level.</td></tr>
<tr class="nobleloot2"><td>[img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/medium/spell_shaman_giftearthmother.jpg[/img]</td><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/2436"][b]Desert Rose[/b][/url]
Use [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/44800"]Spring Robes[/url] to plant a flower in each of the deserts listed.</td></tr>
<tr class="nobleloot1"><td>[img]http://static.wowhead.com/images/icons/medium/spell_shadow_soothingkiss.jpg[/img]</td><td>[url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/2576"][b]Blushing Bride[/b][/url]
Kiss someone wearing an [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/19028"]Elegant Dress[/url] while wearing a [url="http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/6833"]White Tuxedo Shirt[/url] and Black Tuxedo Pants.</td></tr>
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Recent In-Game Fixes - April 2010 - 4/2

Originally Posted by Bornakk (Blue Tracker)

Listed below are recent fixes we have applied to the game. Keep in mind that some of these changes may not be active until after the realm has been restarted.

4/2

• The agility bonus provided by the Strength of Earth totem now applies to characters within the appropriate range.

Blue posts

Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

"Next swing" attacks
Next swing attacks are all going to die. The experience of using them is underwhelming, their mechanics are confusing, and they might even cause real world pain. (Source)

Classes Resources
Resources for all classes are supposed to matter. If they weren't supposed to matter then we could certainly simplify the game by removing them all. For some classes or specs, the actual resource is GCDs not a bar that fills up.

Rage, energy, runes and soon focus are essentially infinite. You only risk running out for short periods of time, but they'll be back eventually.

For mana-using dps specs, the gameplay is similar but the time slice is broader. A mage isn't going to run out of mana in the first few seconds of a fight. She might run out later, particularly in a longer fight, but she also has ways to get that mana back, and then using those at the right time becomes some of the skill of playing that class.

Healers all use mana, and they are supposed to run out of mana if they make bad decisions. That isn't currently happening, but it will in Cataclysm. Healers feel singled-out by that design, but we believe that when healers have infinite mana that we lose controls in designing an encounter. We have to rely on killing characters faster than healers can respond, punishing players dramatically for doing or failing to do some key event in the fight, or relying on dps checks with berserk timers and the like. Healer mana is a tool we had in BC and lost in LK. When the raid takes too much avoidable damage, then the healers eventually gas out (after using their own tools for mana restoration, like Divine Plea and Innervate) and the group then dies. Put another way, the game is just too easy when healers can just rely on their most powerful spell all of the time (many of us also think the healer gameplay is a little boring when you arne't using all your spells).

I'm not trying to derail the topic from rage, but I did want to explain why we think it's okay for some characters to have infinite resources and some to risk running out. But the resource itself still needs to matter even if it is effectively infinite. (Source)

Threat in ICC
You need to look at the specific situations in which it's actually happening. We don't see a lot of people pulling off of tanks on single-target fights say 30 seconds into the fight. That is even more true if you make use of Tricks or Misdirect.

Where it does happen is in the first few seconds of a fight or new adds coming to a fight or sometimes if you're AE'ing a large group and the tank can't generate threat on everything.

And yes, threat needs to not fall off as much as everyone gears up. (Source)

Warrior (Forums / Talent Calculator)
Rage Management
The problem with BC was that the rage solution we implemented felt like rage starvation and rather than adjust the model we kind of threw in the towel. I agree that having no rage and no way to get rage is frustrating. Part of our plan is to give warriors (and bears) more control over it.

It’s really not a damage issue so we don’t even need to get into whether warriors are doing too much damage in ICC or not. (Though I’d argue on some fights they are.) The real issue is that their damage doesn't stay in proportion with the other classes and is even more gear dependent. Until they have adequate rage coming in, they can’t use enough abilities. Once they have enough rage coming in, they can mash their buttons continuously. We don't want rage to be something you graduate from. It is the entire core of the warrior class, along with stances. (Source)

Omg, heroic spamming warriors QQQQQ D:.

Does that mean they'll get cooldowns or something? Possibly a CD based on the speed of your weapon.

and didn't change much since last year.

Exactly how much? Is there anything new?

"Next swing" attacks
Next swing attacks are all going to die. The experience of using them is underwhelming, their mechanics are confusing, and they might even cause real world pain. Sad (Source)

Finally. Can't think of any other as boring game mechanic.

Is anyone else extremely fed up with not getting Cataclysm info/update from Blizz in what seems like 8+ months?

Noblegarden Comes to Azeroth?

plz dont stay at home!

nothing interesting, as usual. Plz give a sense to these events with some huge bosses. bosses with somenthing more interesting then crazy mounts/failed epics/silly companions/strange dress. "rational" game plz.

So nothing different? I am disappoint Blizzard. :-[

"Healer mana is a tool we had in BC and lost in LK."

I think in BC the healers can drink as many mana potions as they have.

ohh totally forgot about this very amusing event!

Originally Posted by agelos

noblegarden...what a horriblly time consuming but fun event...

Noblegarden takes by far less time than other events. I did it in the night when it came on live servers last year, circling around falconwing square with little competition was pretty neat.

no giant sadistic bunny rabbit boss? bah!