Funniest thing I have ever seen in my life (Piers Morgan-Alex Jones interview)

[Linkedblade]

Piers was at worst guilty of violation of privacy and illegal phone tapping. The US government granted him asylum. Why? Who the fuck knows, but there's no evidence he's done anything illegal since being in the States.

Well having over 100,000 signatures on a petition to send his ass home means he's made enough people mad. Stirring shit is definitely a reason to be sent home.

[Priestiality]

heres a tutorial with pictures
http://www.quarterbore.com/nfa/dias.html

Now show us where an average citizen can buy one. PRO-TIP: They can't. It requires a "NFA tax stamp" which almost NOBODY gets approved for.

[Kraenen]

Well having over 100,000 signatures on a petition to send his ass home means he's made enough people mad. Stirring shit is definitely a reason to be sent home.

Why is "stirring shit" a reason to be deported?

[Chrysia]

Well having over 100,000 signatures on a petition to send his ass home means he's made enough people mad. Stirring shit is definitely a reason to be sent home.

Really? Can I get a petition going then to lock up anyone I disagree with? Shit stirring is obviously an egregious crime.

[Linkedblade]

Why is "stirring shit" a reason to be deported?

Uh, I don't know let me walk into your house and mock you and tell you what you believe is wrong. You wouldn't kick me out?

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Really? Can I get a petition going then to lock up anyone I disagree with? Shit stirring is obviously an egregious crime.

It is actually. In our early history we always had British and French spies trying to start riots and such. Nothing new.

[Wildtree]

I don't want to take his freedom away. I just want to send his ass home. He fled the Uk for being a shitstarter, so fleeing to the US makes him innocent all-of-a-sudden, it takes a trial to decide such things.

True, it takes trial. And a trial hasn't happened, nor has a request happened to hand him over to the British Authorities for them to trail him.. Hence he's at this very moment innocent. And that by the definitions of BOTH Countries laws. You really should try to bend the laws to your likes. I'd actually agree with you on that Morgan pulled some horrible stunts in England. Pissed me off too. Yet... The fact remains, that the laws are the laws.

That fact that everyone is calling Jones a "nutbag" are the ones that need to study these topics more. (Funny how many of the anti-gun people aren't from the US) However, I agree that Jones method of raising his points was a bit unorthodox, but he did what he had to to get his points accross otherwise he wouldnt have been given the time to.

Ok. Keyword FACT... You need to get that straight..
True, in here there is a majority that opposes the pro-gun faction.... But not the way you love to paint it.
The vast majority is Pro-gun-Control, and not anti-gun, how you or a few others like to say it, falsely.
There is a huge difference between gun regulation and a strict ban of firearms. That's two different worlds. And keyword worlds... There are very very few countries that have a full ban in place. Most people in here are from countries that have thorough gun regulation. And that's the big difference, you try to showcase wrong, willingly or unwillingly is the question now?
And sure Jones is a nutbag. Because first of all his "facts" are flawed, and ripped out of real context. In overall murder crimes the USA would still be on the "loser" end, compared to them other nations they (even Jones) tried to refer to.. Plus, it's entirely missing the whole point.... It's not about those stats. It's the fact that the numbers in the USA are too high, and that there needs to be some regulation and streamlined law handling and enforcement to bring those numbers down.
And if it saves only the lives of 10 or 100 people, it's worth it the changes.
Yet, the moment someone goes off in public, on TV at something which is supposed to be a civilized and respectful discussion or interview, that very moment that person loses all the credibility they have, and all their arguments become null and void. No matter how right or wrong those arguments have been. That person is through..
He damaged the image of pro-gun supporters. Most of all the responsible gun owners (of which most support regulations) who are really dragged into the middle of everything.

[starlord]

Now show us where an average citizen can buy one. PRO-TIP: They can't. It requires a "NFA tax stamp" which almost NOBODY gets approved for.

what happened to that giant black market everyone talks about?

[Kraenen]

Uh, I don't know let me walk into your house and mock you and tell you what you believe is wrong. You wouldn't kick me out?

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It is actually. In our early history we always had British and French spies trying to start riots and such. Nothing new.

The whole country is now my house? That's new. If he has the money, he can buy his own place to live. The whole country doesn't belong to me, you know. Unless you're looking for some kind of socialism or communism.

[Chrysia]

It is actually. In our early history we always had British and French spies trying to start riots and such. Nothing new.

The French were aiding us in the Revolutionary War. Why the fuck would they try to start riots?

I'll give you the British, though.

Piers isn't doing that, though. He's just an opinion mouthpiece that CNN employs for some retarded reason.

Just like Alex Jones is a loud mouthpiece given a radio show for some retarded reason.

They both try to stir shit, but I haven't heard Piers Morgan specifically tell people to take up arms against law enforcement and the government.

Funny thing is, in this very video, Alex Jones does...Huh, which is the one trying to stir shit again?

[GreatOak]

Piers was at worst guilty of violation of privacy and illegal phone tapping. The US government granted him asylum. Why? Who the fuck knows, but there's no evidence he's done anything illegal since being in the States.

Shame he isn't locked up for getting those soldiers killed. He's a snake of a man

[Wildtree]

Well having over 100,000 signatures on a petition to send his ass home means he's made enough people mad. Stirring shit is definitely a reason to be sent home.

You are aware what reason those petitions have? They cannot really change anything. For all they can achieve is an official statement from the white house admin.
What will likely happen is, that out will come some random press speaker at some random white house press meeting, and address the petition by conforming Morgan's legal status in the USA. Case closed.
100K+ people wasted their time and thoughts over it.

[Linkedblade]

True, it takes trial. And a trial hasn't happened, nor has a request happened to hand him over to the British Authorities for them to trail him.. Hence he's at this very moment innocent. And that by the definitions of BOTH Countries laws. You really should try to bend the laws to your likes. I'd actually agree with you on that Morgan pulled some horrible stunts in England. Pissed me off too. Yet... The fact remains, that the laws are the laws.

Ok. Keyword FACT... You need to get that straight..
True, in here there is a majority that opposes the pro-gun faction.... But not the way you love to paint it.
The vast majority is Pro-gun-Control, and not anti-gun, how you or a few others like to say it, falsely.
There is a huge difference between gun regulation and a strict ban of firearms. That's two different worlds. And keyword worlds... There are very very few countries that have a full ban in place. Most people in here are from countries that have thorough gun regulation. And that's the big difference, you try to showcase wrong, willingly or unwillingly is the question now?
And sure Jones is a nutbag. Because first of all his "facts" are flawed, and ripped out of real context. In overall murder crimes the USA would still be on the "loser" end, compared to them other nations they (even Jones) tried to refer to.. Plus, it's entirely missing the whole point.... It's not about those stats. It's the fact that the numbers in the USA are too high, and that there needs to be some regulation and streamlined law handling and enforcement to bring those numbers down.
And if it saves only the lives of 10 or 100 people, it's worth it the changes.
Yet, the moment someone goes off in public, on TV at something which is supposed to be a civilized and respectful discussion or interview, that very moment that person loses all the credibility they have, and all their arguments become null and void. No matter how right or wrong those arguments have been. That person is through..
He damaged the image of pro-gun supporters. Most of all the responsible gun owners (of which most support regulations) who are really dragged into the middle of everything.

That logic is flawed. The argument has been said again and again and again. Just because you take the guns from law abiding citizens, what stops criminals from getting their hands on them?

[GreatOak]

Now show us where an average citizen can buy one. PRO-TIP: They can't. It requires a "NFA tax stamp" which almost NOBODY gets approved for.

Don't forget to mention the technical issues of converting an AR-15 into an automatic weapon

[Chrysia]

Shame he isn't locked up for getting those soldiers killed. He's a snake of a man

I'm not really defending the man, you understand. He's an arrogant, over-bearing twit with some really stupid ideas, and everything I can find points to him being a miserable excuse for a journalist.

He is, however, here in the US legally, and he's done nothing in this country to change that.

[Linkedblade]

You are aware what reason those petitions have? They cannot really change anything. For all they can achieve is an official statement from the white house admin.
What will likely happen is, that out will come some random press speaker at some random white house press meeting, and address the petition by conforming Morgan's legal status in the USA. Case closed.
100K+ people wasted their time and thoughts over it.

I know that. But he could get deported, it's not that far fetched of an idea.

[zerocoolhack]

He's also right that crime is at a 40 year low (while gun ownership has risen). The FBI facts verify this.

So more guns doesn't necessarily mean more crime, at least in the USA

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I liked his accent though

Another reason Alex Jones is a lunatic. He states FBI and CIA facts all the time then trashes them the very next sentence. If according to him the fbi and cia are so untrustworthy why does he believe in the facts that come from them?

[Chrysia]

That logic is flawed. The argument has been said again and again and again. Just because you take the guns from law abiding citizens, what stops criminals from getting their hands on them?

First, the ban doesn't "take" guns, all existing weapons are grand-fathered in, just like they were under the previous "assault weapons" ban.

Second, many black market weapons are actually originally legally purchased then stolen and sold on the black market.

I'm not for a ban, mind you. It's a stupid idea, and ultimately futile. I would like tighter ownership laws, with mandatory training and safety measures. That's a separate issue, however.

[GreatOak]

True, it takes trial. And a trial hasn't happened, nor has a request happened to hand him over to the British Authorities for them to trail him.. Hence he's at this very moment innocent. And that by the definitions of BOTH Countries laws. You really should try to bend the laws to your likes. I'd actually agree with you on that Morgan pulled some horrible stunts in England. Pissed me off too. Yet... The fact remains, that the laws are the laws.

Ok. Keyword FACT... You need to get that straight..
True, in here there is a majority that opposes the pro-gun faction.... But not the way you love to paint it.
The vast majority is Pro-gun-Control, and not anti-gun, how you or a few others like to say it, falsely.
There is a huge difference between gun regulation and a strict ban of firearms. That's two different worlds. And keyword worlds... There are very very few countries that have a full ban in place. Most people in here are from countries that have thorough gun regulation. And that's the big difference, you try to showcase wrong, willingly or unwillingly is the question now?
And sure Jones is a nutbag. Because first of all his "facts" are flawed, and ripped out of real context. In overall murder crimes the USA would still be on the "loser" end, compared to them other nations they (even Jones) tried to refer to.. Plus, it's entirely missing the whole point.... It's not about those stats. It's the fact that the numbers in the USA are too high, and that there needs to be some regulation and streamlined law handling and enforcement to bring those numbers down.
And if it saves only the lives of 10 or 100 people, it's worth it the changes.
Yet, the moment someone goes off in public, on TV at something which is supposed to be a civilized and respectful discussion or interview, that very moment that person loses all the credibility they have, and all their arguments become null and void. No matter how right or wrong those arguments have been. That person is through..
He damaged the image of pro-gun supporters. Most of all the responsible gun owners (of which most support regulations) who are really dragged into the middle of everything.

Yeah, but once again most gun owners do NOT support any more bans. We don't want to end up like Mexico where it's nearly impossible to legally get a gun and still get murdered. We aren't a tiny homogenous island country. We have a constitution, traditions, culture, a huge border, millions of guns, and a lot of inner cities

[Linkedblade]

First, the ban doesn't "take" guns, all existing weapons are grand-fathered in, just like they were under the previous "assault weapons" ban.

Second, many black market weapons are actually originally legally purchased then stolen and sold on the black market.

I'm not for a ban, mind you. It's a stupid idea, and ultimately futile. I would like tighter ownership laws, with mandatory training and safety measures. That's a separate issue, however.

Start with some laws, it leads to more laws. Add in a tragic event as a nother reason for laws and you end up where we are now. It'd be a shame if you were to see how many laws that congress have passed that scratch out numerous portions of our bill of rights.

[GreatOak]

what happened to that giant black market everyone talks about?

Stop dodging the question. You know fuck all about guns and sound stupid. Auto sears aren't on the black market because there's no demand for them. Why? Nobody wants to risk getting arrested for illegally possessing an automatic gun. It's hard as hell to successfully convert a gun without it blowing up in your face. It's not necessary for self-defense. Semi-automatic weapons are ideal for self defense even though they aren't as lethal