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  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by Annoying View Post
    It would be absolutely insane if Trump went 3rd party against a different RNC vs Clinton. We know Sanders won't go 3rd party, but Trump has threatened to.

    I can't even begin to try and predict what a Clinton v Trump v Cruz election would look like. I say Clinton, because at this point, I don't see Sanders having much of a chance to get the nomination anymore. 1096:774 is just too large of a gap.

    I think trump could win

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    Ahahaha. You can't stump the Trump!

    I can't believe he may actually win the presidency. I wonder how 4 years under Trump would be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    Good. One more RINO down that wants to give amnesty to all the illegal aliens. Now Kasich needs to bow out too. Hes just the same

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    If they screw Trump it will kill their chances whether he runs third party or not. All of Trumps supporters will stay home out of protest against the party going against the people's wishes
    Trump is a problem for the GOP.

    In polls, he's not expected to do well against Sanders or Clinton (Sanders has a higher margin over Trump than Clinton, last I checked) but if the GOP kicks him out, the voters will revolt and Sanders or Clinton will win in a landslide.

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    Ahahaha. You can't stump the Trump!

    I can't believe he may actually win the presidency. I wonder how 4 years under Trump would be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    I think trump could win
    I'm rather curious what sort of logic brings you to the conclusion that a GOP candidate would win in a three way race between 2 GOP candidates and a Dem candidate? I realize the right really wants to think that Clinton is so nefarious no one would turn out to vote for her, but the polling just isn't there to support that.

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    See guy, there's three candidates: Trump, Clinton, and Cruz. Hillary Clinton thinks everyone can get along, and Donald Trump just wants to troll all the time without thinking it through. But then you've got Cruz, buddy. And Cruz wants to shit all over everything! So, Clinton may get mad at Trump once in a while, because Clinton gets trolled by Trump. But Trump also trolls Cruz, friend. And if he didn't troll Cruz, you know what you'd get? You'd get Trump and Clinton all covered in shit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    I'm rather curious what sort of logic brings you to the conclusion that a GOP candidate would win in a three way race between 2 GOP candidates and a Dem candidate? I realize the right really wants to think that Clinton is so nefarious no one would turn out to vote for her, but the polling just isn't there to support that.
    Yeah, whoever goes independent is guaranteed to lose, along with the party that person defected from. We've been a two party system with intense two party loyalty for so long that it's pretty much just bred into Americans.

    If Trump went independent, I could see him getting maybe 20% of the vote, but the other 20-25-whatever% would stick with the Republicans, and the rest would go Democrat. I'm pretty sure the GOP could actually run a resurrected zombie Hitler as their candidate against Trump (lol hitler v hitler omg we're so cute), and still enough people would stick with the party to guarantee a Democrat win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    I realize the right really wants to think that Clinton is so nefarious no one would turn out to vote for her, but the polling just isn't there to support that.
    I'd like to add to that. The two most trustworthy sources I could find in the last few minutes are
    Reuters, who puts Clinton ahead of Trump by 8 percent in a field that admittedly has 19 percent choosing neither, and
    Gallup, which puts Trump's approval rating at 30% and disapproval 63%. Clinton's isnt great, 41 and 53 percent respectively, but is significantly higher.

  8. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I'd like to add to that. The two most trustworthy sources I could find in the last few minutes are
    Reuters, who puts Clinton ahead of Trump by 8 percent in a field that admittedly has 19 percent choosing neither, and
    Gallup, which puts Trump's approval rating at 30% and disapproval 63%. Clinton's isnt great, 41 and 53 percent respectively, but is significantly higher.
    Unfortunately opinion polls are all the meaningful data we really have right now. I just want to point out that they're largely useless at this time because so much will happen between now and the primaries, including how much the parties rally around their respective candidates when the nominations are over, what are the primary events the world faces, etc.

    The situation for candidates now is just incomparable to the situation come election time. We can use opinion polls as a very vague starting line, but so much more needs to be taken in to account if we really want to get any sort of feel on chances. It might end up totally irrelevant if the GOP decides to rally around Trump or not in the end, but it's going to change the terrain a lot depending on what happens. It might end up not mattering if Bernie is able to convince his followers that Hillary will be a better choice than none of the above, or it might matter hugely. It might change things when Warren finally endorses Clinton as she promised to do, or who Clinton chooses as VP.
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  9. #169
    At the start of this nomination year I really thought it would be Rubio. Again not shocked he didn't win as much as he never really had a chance.

    I really cannot believe that is really down to Trump or Cruz. Guess we will see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shon237 View Post
    At the start of this nomination year I really thought it would be Rubio. Again not shocked he didn't win as much as he never really had a chance.

    I really cannot believe that is really down to Trump or Cruz. Guess we will see what happens.
    I thought it would be Rubio or Bush. I seriously thought and said several times Trump was just a blip and he'd eventually go too far and troll himself out of the competition.

    I severely underestimated just how angry everyone is and how xenophobic the electorate has become.

    Welp, I was wrong and now I have to somehow come to terms that half the country is seriously going to put up Trump as their frontrunner. It's so baffling to me!

  11. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    Welp, I was wrong and now I have to somehow come to terms that half the country is seriously going to put up Trump as their frontrunner. It's so baffling to me!
    Dude, for real. It's one of those keep-you-up-at-night feelings trying to understand how so many people are so crazy. I think every election has that "I DON'T GET HOW YOU CAN VOTE FOR SO AND SO" thing, but those come down to "I don't like x's policy on y and I don't understand how you could ever approve such a thing!" This is a person suggesting things that don't even pretend to make sense; things that when you read them, you check to make sure your news site didn't mistake an Onion article for a valid source and run with it. And so many people go along with it.

    Every time I hear someone talk about Mexico paying for a wall with 100% seriousness, I die a little inside.

  12. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by Trump View Post
    There is nothing wrong with Republicans. They will nominate Donad Trump because they are sick and tired of the liberals. They (just like a lot of other Americans) have had to endure 8 years of shit heads like Obama, Clinton, Holder, Warren, and every other worthless liberal. It is time to kick them to the curb.

    I am a Democrat and will be voting for Trump. While Bernie seems to be a good man his platform is too socialist for me. Clinton is one on the most vile human beings in the world. Trump is100x the person than that vile piece of garbage is.

    Trump does not promote fear or hate. The liberals just spin it that way because they are irrational and have no mental basis in reality.
    Looks like Octoberfest chickened out and made a forumalt! ;P

    Btw, no they dont. Actualy, over 60% of the Republicans DIDNT vote for trump. dump hasnt gone over 50% in practically any state... And those are the ones he WON!
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  13. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    I thought it would be Rubio or Bush. I seriously thought and said several times Trump was just a blip and he'd eventually go too far and troll himself out of the competition.

    I severely underestimated just how angry everyone is and how xenophobic the electorate has become.

    Welp, I was wrong and now I have to somehow come to terms that half the country is seriously going to put up Trump as their frontrunner. It's so baffling to me!
    This isnt about xenophobia, it is anger over the establishment. Those who side with Trump are angry about what the establishment has done. I would say it is almost the same with Sanders voters. The establishment on both sides are doing everything in their power to keep their candidate ahead and to win the nomination. It just so happens that the Dems are doing a better job because of the super delegates. Funny how the party that is supposed to be for the "little man" has a system in place to keep the "little man" down and keep the establishment in power.

  14. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    I'm rather curious what sort of logic brings you to the conclusion that a GOP candidate would win in a three way race between 2 GOP candidates and a Dem candidate? I realize the right really wants to think that Clinton is so nefarious no one would turn out to vote for her, but the polling just isn't there to support that.
    Trump is gonna do well with blue collar people that vote democrat. The only 2 states he can't win are New York and California

  15. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by mvallas View Post
    Looks like Octoberfest chickened out and made a forumalt! ;P

    Btw, no they dont. Actualy, over 60% of the Republicans DIDNT vote for trump. dump hasnt gone over 50% in practically any state... And those are the ones he WON!
    Saying 60% of Republicans thought a different person would be the better candidate is more accurate, since the number of people who would vote in a republican primary and then not vote for Trump in the general is pretty small. I have a friend who supported Rubio and voted for him, but I don't for one second think he would stay home on election day rather than vote for Trump over Clinton.

    Rubio wasn't terrible and I was considering voting for him in the general if he got the nomination, but he has a very strong Jefferson Darcy vibe about him that I just can't shake. He comes across very much as someone you wouldn't be surprised to find out was in a boy band when he was younger or that he was afraid of spiders and thunderstorms. Or breaking a nail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by petej0 View Post
    This isnt about xenophobia, it is anger over the establishment. Those who side with Trump are angry about what the establishment has done. I would say it is almost the same with Sanders voters. The establishment on both sides are doing everything in their power to keep their candidate ahead and to win the nomination. It just so happens that the Dems are doing a better job because of the super delegates. Funny how the party that is supposed to be for the "little man" has a system in place to keep the "little man" down and keep the establishment in power.
    What's funny is how people think that a billionaire con-artist who inherited his money, and who has donated hundreds of thousands to establishment politicians (while giving charities jack), is going to fight against "the system" for the "the little guy".
    "In today’s America, conservatives who actually want to conserve are as rare as liberals who actually want to liberate. The once-significant language of an earlier era has had the meaning sucked right out of it, the better to serve as camouflage for a kleptocratic feeding frenzy in which both establishment parties participate with equal abandon" (Taking a break from the criminal, incompetent liars at the NSA, to bring you the above political observation, from The Archdruid Report.)

  17. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by Taftvalue View Post
    I think he's gonna end up as Trump's VP
    Oh man, I really freakin' hope so.

    Mostly because I firmly believe that Trump will get assassinated before his first year is up.

  18. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by PalliesThrowStuff View Post
    Oh man, I really freakin' hope so.

    Mostly because I firmly believe that Trump will get assassinated before his first year is up.
    They said the same about Obama and fortunately that never happened. The amount of people that are willing to murder anyone regardless of how evil they think they are is thankfully very low.

    People will grumble and whine, but that is about it.
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    The guy couldnt even carry his own state

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    What's funny is how people think that a billionaire con-artist who inherited his money, and who has donated hundreds of thousands to establishment politicians (while giving charities jack), is going to fight against "the system" for the "the little guy".
    But if you hit them with that logic, or even the reality that Trump's not even a good businessman, they fire back "Well, Trump knows he's crooked, he's campaigning on using that crookedness for the GOOD OF AMERICA!" That makes even less sense, but I've sort of given up on ever getting these people to see logic.

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