Warcraft Movie Trailer, Overwatch Short Tomorrow, Tweets, Frost Mage Spec Preview

[Draculla]

Come on Khadgar, that's not how you do a generic fantasy accent.

He sounds like Nobbel

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i agree with the mage feedback if im playing a spec i want to be immersed in it and using an ice spell when 95% of my abilities are firebased just feels wrong
it really has to be either 33% each school or 100% one school
to be fair a mage with fire frost and arcane abilities all mixed together would be really cool

And I want to be able to use all spell schools in any spec, just with a different impact / efficience depending on speciality. No one forces you to use cone of cold if you are fire and have a better dragon's breath (which shares CD). But it is sometimes handy to have a aoe slow instead of an aoe stun, so you would have a choice.

If you want to play a toon with 5 abilities, there is HotS for you. RPGs have a main feature about them that you have many abilities and use some of them as a standard kit (depending on your spec) and use others occasionally. Anything else is just hack & slay or MOBA.

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"Hate to be that player, but the only problem I have with Legion rn is that fire mages have mandatory frost spells/talents"
"Seen feedback in both directions. "I'm a fire mage, I only want fire spells" & "I'm a Mage I should be able to use all schools" (holinka)

So, wanna back other offensive abilities like (fireball, scorch, arcane blast) when my frost spec was interupted. So i hope mr. HOLINKA... do it.

[sabe]

Ghostcrawler is the reason WoW lost so many subs. He has no idea about playing WoW or developing WoW. Check the numbers before GC and After GC.

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He sounds like Nobbel

I'm glad he doesn't.
Being Dutch myself I find Nobbel's videos completely unwatchable because of his hideously thick Dutch accent, almost as if he's putting it on on purpose.

[Howard Moon]

This movie baffles me.

The trailer makes it look and feel like a children's movie, yet the WoW playerbase is all grown up now.

Who the hell is this movie for??

[Eleveneleven]

That frost mage video is 11 days old guys.

[JohnnyMccrum]

Come on Blizz, are you even trying anymore? WAKE UP.

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Ghostcrawler is the reason WoW lost so many subs. He has no idea about playing WoW or developing WoW. Check the numbers before GC and After GC.

Not really, most people with more than half a braincell know as fact that the reason WoW went so far downhill was the gradual introduction of bad features and no introduction of good features.

Bad features?

LFD - makes dungeons a waiting-game/chore/loot-machine with zero social aspect.
LFR - makes raiding a waiting-game/chore/loot-machine with zero social aspect.
City Portals - Gets rid of world traveling, outwith flying/collecting/leveling
Flying - turned exploration into: "Afk at point X, head in the direction of course Z, come back in 10 minutes"
New character models - rushed, unfinished, ruined some charm and history.
Timeless Isle - free loot/grind-island, not real content.
Class identity scrapping - every ability now feels the same, and doesn't feel like it hits hard.
continously poorly designed/rehashed gear. - 3 recolors of most gears/mounts.
Simplification of questing/the world/leveling - ruined the entire leveling experience, millions left.



Good features that could've been introduced?

New Skeleton rigging - most mobs in the game share rigging, it makes the models seem cheap.
Physics - any level of physics based destruction or rag-doll would've significantly increased the longevity of WoW
Class tutoring - the ability to learn abilities from other classes outwith current limitations.
Ironman - when you die you're gone forever, but tons more experience.
Raid-based leveling system - Can level up via slaying difficult bosses with friends for much better experience.
An actual arena - betting/can watch other players etc, a real arena.
Timeless Raiding - instead of LFR, a system where you're taught raid encounters in a more controlled environment, in order to master boss mechanics.

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Come on Blizz, are you even trying anymore? WAKE UP.

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Not really, most people with more than half a braincell know as fact that the reason WoW went so far downhill was the gradual introduction of bad features and no introduction of good features.

Bad features?

LFD - makes dungeons a waiting-game/chore/loot-machine with zero social aspect.
LFR - makes raiding a waiting-game/chore/loot-machine with zero social aspect.
City Portals - Gets rid of world traveling, outwith flying/collecting/leveling
Flying - turned exploration into: "Afk at point X, head in the direction of course Z, come back in 10 minutes"
New character models - rushed, unfinished, ruined some charm and history.
Timeless Isle - free loot/grind-island, not real content.
Class identity scrapping - every ability now feels the same, and doesn't feel like it hits hard.
continously poorly designed/rehashed gear. - 3 recolors of most gears/mounts.
Simplification of questing/the world/leveling - ruined the entire leveling experience, millions left.



Good features that could've been introduced?

New Skeleton rigging - most mobs in the game share rigging, it makes the models seem cheap.
Physics - any level of physics based destruction or rag-doll would've significantly increased the longevity of WoW
Class tutoring - the ability to learn abilities from other classes outwith current limitations.
Ironman - when you die you're gone forever, but tons more experience.
Raid-based leveling system - Can level up via slaying difficult bosses with friends for much better experience.
An actual arena - betting/can watch other players etc, a real arena.
Timeless Raiding - instead of LFR, a system where you're taught raid encounters in a more controlled environment, in order to master boss mechanics.

Lol lfg ruined stuff, ok you know you can still form groups by yourself and go to the dungeon instead of using lfg? Also how did leveling get ruined? low level without heirlooms is fun if you don't do dungeons that is because otherwise it's still a rushfest with everyone who has heirlooms, sure it's not boring and slow like back in vanilla but still, also you don't want timeless isle because it feels like a grindfest? well all of vanilla was a grindfest and so was tbc.

Also ironman? so how would you ever raid? that's like the dumbest idea ever since you will wipe a lot even in new dungeons. And class identity? well first off they're changing a lot in legion and second off, i play a lot of specs on alts for example and i always feel like i'm playing a different spec i think it's just another ridiculous thing that started in wod because it's cool to hate wod

You say blizz thinks of bad features, well please do not become a dev yourself because your game would probably suck

[Triggered Fridgekin]

That Gul'dan, holy shit. Welcome to 90s.

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Ghostcrawler is the reason WoW lost so many subs. He has no idea about playing WoW or developing WoW. Check the numbers before GC and After GC.

GC was a dev in wrath when it hit the highest sub numbers at 12.5 million, im not a GC fan or anything but just saying

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This movie baffles me.

The trailer makes it look and feel like a children's movie, yet the WoW playerbase is all grown up now.

Who the hell is this movie for??

dnt like it dnt watch it simple

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Its already 2 years since GC left? It feels like it has only been a year, time flies by so fast...

I do think his tweets are way overdue by now, he's not even up to date with WoW anymore.

mmo-c will do anything to fill there frontpage with content same with wowhead, i think wowhead is worse than GC tweets on mmo champion because there always showing off pepe and clothes and shit, is wowhead a wow fansite or a fucking fashion store i dunno

[Deleted]

Urgh, when you can see actors standing in front of a green background, you know that it's not gonna be good. And that gryphon looks awful too.

[Kioshi]

Man you guy a whiners. Do not force people to do lfr for atifact? Blizzard isnt forceing you to do LFR for legendary, your just a lazy a×× person who rather do LFR than PUG or your in a crappy GUILD who cant out progress LFR's release window, no one to blame but you. Should of ask the question that was really on your mind, "Can you stop giving people who use LFR gear"

[blankfaced]

I can see a few exceptions (e.g. there isn't really a better way to stop an enemy dead in its tracks than a good old Frost Nova even if you're not specialising in Frost), but these should be rare and definitely not in the rotations.

The way I see it, aside from the aforementioned exceptions, each spec has a very strong opinion on what is the best solution for any particular problem. For example, when it comes to dealing with a massive blow, Frost mages say you should Ice Block while Fire mages prefer to take the hit and Cauterize the wound. Long story short, whenever possible, and it usually is, Mages should prefer their own specialty to other mages. You want someone who can use both ice and fire at once? Go ask a shaman

Your frost nova is a good example, but then what of the out of combat abilities that make zero sense as anything other than arcane. I always perceived specialization as something a bit different than others. I thought of it not as if I just focus on one school ignoring the rest my whole life, but that I started out a mage using multiple schools and then started putting more focus on a specific school as I progressed. So you learn a lot of basics from the other schools but are much more capable at your specialized school. I really feel in the lore of it all, no mage would ever forsake the other schools just be a "Fire Mage." It would be limiting them to an unnecessary degree just to look cool?

[paralleluniverse]

Khadgar casting Arcane Barrage?

[pandasrus]

Okay mmo-champion, do you not know the difference between a TRAILER and a TV SPOT?! FFS STOP DOING THAT! I load the damn page and I expect a full trailer, but just see another 30 second tv spot instead.

[Raetary]

we need more spells! cmon khadgar! pull something great out of your ass!

[Retro89]

That last screenshot of the female orc attacking the other orc. To the left is a human soldier that looks like he's been placed there after using photoshop.

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Your frost nova is a good example, but then what of the out of combat abilities that make zero sense as anything other than arcane. I always perceived specialization as something a bit different than others. I thought of it not as if I just focus on one school ignoring the rest my whole life, but that I started out a mage using multiple schools and then started putting more focus on a specific school as I progressed. So you learn a lot of basics from the other schools but are much more capable at your specialized school. I really feel in the lore of it all, no mage would ever forsake the other schools just be a "Fire Mage." It would be limiting them to an unnecessary degree just to look cool?

Exactly. Why should we play shamans to use different MAGE schools? Even with all the recent pruning, we kept our various utility and combat spells from other schools, at least from arcane (invisibility, polymorph, blink, conjure food, teleportation, portals). My concept of being a MAGE is constantly diminished by the increasing restrictions of available spells. This is not class fantasy anymore, its spec fantasy. Take a look at the D&D wizard class - don't matter their preferred school, they are all wizards, they can potentially cast all spells they know, but some will be more effective than others. This is what I expect from a MAGE in WoW. Especially if we will get a triple-spec character. The pruning model of reducing your kit of spells depeding on your spec by default is like having a partial amnesia - because these spells will magically reappear in your character when you switch to another spec.

Specialisation should be about the effectiveness of some spells, and possibly some additional flavour spells (like D&D sorceror breeds have), not a schizophrenic split of all available spells into 3 different personalities. To come back to my D&D comparison: We all started with playing Wizards, and will have to play Sorcerers in Legion, forced by Blizzard on us. I like my mage to be a master of magic, not a master of one third of all abilities depending on the state of my character's mind.

[bassfu]

Is their plan to gradually release the movie entirely through trailers? They should be worrying less on trailers and more on improving the CGI past a college student level.