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Yes, but you can only do so if you have 90+ votes - which the government never will get if changes they suggest isn't 100% legally sane and justifiable - remember, you have a opposition who just are waiting for the smallest error to strike against the government.
Rewriting the constitution without having a massive majority for it would easily be such a thing.
As i said - all governments could theoretically go rogue and for example rewrite the constitution as they see fit and then overrule the legislation (where they need the 90+) but they would be overthrown by a vote of confidence motion, probably end up in jail and never ever re-elected.
This is where you have to trust the democracy in action.
Yes, don't have an english or french source on it though, but it was reported about here in media in Sweden.
Page I linked to is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6teborgs-Posten
http://www.gp.se/nyheter/varlden/1.2...-medborgarskap
They could but the law would be in violation of the constitution and thus be thrown out by a judge. [technically the prime minister would be sued and loose since.. violation of constitution. Seemingly one of the few cases where a member of parliament can be sued]
Every part of the Danish constitution is changed through a referendum.
We have freedom of religion, a referendum could change it to everything but islam is ok, and I honestly think people would vote for it at this point "not that anyone suggested this"
Atm one of the topics in Denmark seem to be, if international norms and laws etc. Should really stop us from protecting our society from radical islam.
Holy shit, what are you people not getting? The constitution isn't something frozen either. Laws can be changed and the constitution is no different, saying "BUT THIS IS HOW IT IS NOW" doesn't have any relevance to such a situation, because it would get changed rather quick if people at a large would want to do that.
You people come off as some ultraconservative demagogues right now by refusing to realize that it can be changed or that it won't stay the way it is today, in the future.
It is not a simple referendum.
Btw the constitution does not have to be changed to protect form radical islam, the radical sub elements are likely to be illegal same as political organizations that would excersize their will by force.
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Ofcourse the constitution can be changed but the parliament cannot simply change it. The constitution defines how it is done.
I didn't say it's simple, I said it can be changed but you went "but the constitution says", as if that's some valid argument against the fact that laws and the constitution isn't frozen in this specific time and will change in the future as peoples opinions changes. If we were to go the conservative route like you do, we shouldn't have made it illegal to rape your wife, same-sex marriage would still be illegal and so forth, because that was the law at one time.
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Meh, don't take this the wrong way, but ever since Tilly just started randomly quoting swedish news sources that couldn't be found anywhere else, I won't just believe it at face value unless there's a wider international news coverage of it. Sweden is a bit hysterical when it comes to citizenship, immigrants and such things.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...of-citizenship
Hollande’s cabinet on Wednesday approved his plan to modify the French constitution to extend the government’s power to remove French nationality from people convicted of terrorism if they have another passport. The government also agreed to formalize the basis for the state of emergency that has been in effect since last month’s attacks in and around Paris. Parliament will start reviewing the changes in February.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...tizenship.htmlFrance has stripped seven terrorists of their nationality since 2007, though they were all born outside the country. The constitutional change will mean the government can also rescind the rights of French-born dual nationals.
François Hollande's controversial change to the constitution, introduced after the Paris attacks, narrowly wins backing in National Assembly
Hum, it depends on the constitution really. The German constitution can be changed quite easily, but certain core aspects of it are untouchable. The human rights and the core structure of the German federalism cannot be changed no matter what at this point in time.
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That is talking about dual citizenship terrorists. We're discussing single citizenship people that would become stateless, though. Nobody has any problem with removing one citizenship if the dude has another to fall back on.
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Vote it through.. i assumed you meant parliament from the context. The parliament can do nothing no matter who gets voted in
Edit: Well it can do a lot including ditching the support for the human rights convention. I meant nothing like throwing out religious freedom
You make it sound like Denmark is some kind of third world country who do not take democracy very seriously though (the constitution is the foundation of our democracy) - last time we changed the constitution was in 1953.
TO change the constitution you need - quote:
-First Parliament must adopt the constitutional amendment (90+ - which wont be found if the changes arent legally sound).
-Then The government must call an election. (where the people can vote on the opposition instead of the government who suggested these changes)
-After The election Parliament must re-enact the change.(90+ again)
-Finally, there will be a referendum. And the majority needs to represent at least 40%of all voters.
And i doubt you can get a majority to overthrow religous freedom. Maybe in the parliament but not in the population
Edit: Also Tillii if you persist using fascist arguments insinuating a comparison of people to rape supporters i shall compare you to the nazi you lean up towards
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You can charge these people with breach of the peace and just arrest them each time they say these types of things. They'll eventually get tired of being arrested. You can also increase the penalties of subsequent arrests. Most countries have these types of laws. In the US you can be denied entry because of moral turpitude.
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http://www.ft.dk/Demokrati/Grundlove...rundloven.aspx
Yep, a referendum will change the constitiution. Anyone who'd seriously begin a new election because of the referendum is out of his/her mind, this is obviously done after a 'scheduled' election. Knowing our politicians, they'd make it a rewording into something like "incite hate", and skip the re-election part as they did with the 2009 heir to the throne change.
And banning sub elements of religion still messes with freedom of religion, the danish consitution is seriously outdated in many paragraphs and is often completely up to interpretation, f.ex we have freedom of religion "only confined by the regards to public order and morality", there is no way that we can sideline this with something like neo-nazi's since it's not a religion.
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I think it's about what the majority wants. And the majority doesn't want radical muslims secretly funding/supporting terrorist organisations or feeding them stupid and indoctrinated children. I don't think Westboro Baptist Church is telling people to go on the streets and kill gays with a knife or strap a bomb to themselves and blow up a mosque or an airport in the Middle East.
This whole bullshit of "free speech" and "human rights" needs to be revised. When someone says something along "i'm going to behead you and your whole infidel family, Allah is great and his word is law!" in the street or on Twitter/Facebook etc, you would be stupid to turn away.
I think you need to revise your history lessons.
But I'll bite... let's assume free speech is revoked. That means you get put into jail for saying the wrong thing. Who decides what's the wrong thing? You? Me? If it was me, you'd be in jail already. Now what? Are you going to man up and take the punishment, because that's what you wanted?
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I didn't say revoked i said revised aka looked over and improved as it no longer defends people. Also, tell me what happens if you tattoo a swastika on your head? In my country and quite a few other countries you might be put in jail. And you didn't even mention the fact that you hate anyone, you just thought it was going to be cool, just like the reply you just wrote. The funny fact is i'm not afraid on the radical muslims yelling "i'm gonna cut your head off", i'm more afraid of the ones sitting quiet in their apartments putting bombs together.
Also why do i need to revise my history lessons exactly?