"The Lost Boys" – young men opt for virtual life of pornography and gaming

[THE Bigzoman]

Well, the issue has nothing to do with honesty. It's approach. If you want to catch someone's attention and retain it, don't you think that being well-mannered and eloquent would be more effective than crass and callow? It's essentially the same as any venture, if you're going to do it, why not do it in some style? When you apply for a job, is it better to be shifty, poorly dressed, and ill-attentive or it is better to be dressed for the occasion, well mannered, and have understanding what the employer is looking for? It's essentially the same issue with anything, male or female, regardless of orientation, if you set yourself up to fail you're only increasing your own chances of such.

Yeah, see above. Just of pinch of salt, but not too much.

But I recall sending you some of my work in a PM and you still said I was being crass about it.

[Lady Dragonheart]

Well my friends once went down the "man it must be so practical to be bisexual like you, if you're not having any luck with one gender you can just go for the other one"

Dating does not get any easier depending on your sexuality >_> Most men, gay or otherwise are so unimaginative and unattractive in their way of speach and just choice of conversation topics that I couldnt care less on their physical attractiveness.
And womens sometimes stupid obsession with having the guy taking all the initiative making it seem like they couldnt care less if the date actually happens or not, well lets just say that isnt exactly attractive either.

It's a harsh world out there, luckily there is still the occasional wierdo so it's not all doom and gloom, yes social wierdos are the best dates, hands down.

Well, regardless of gender or orientation, conversation is like a game of catch. You throw, catch, and throw it back. It fails once the ball of interest is dropped and it can be dropped for a plethora of reasons from either side. No one ever said that it was easy, however, being good at keeping a conversation going is the key to breaking the ice with anyone, again regardless of gender or orientation.

[Yunzi]

This issue can't ever be truly studied until reality is accepted. The world is dying, which leads directly to "abnormal behaviors" such as abandonment of the world (in one form or another).

If we follow the moral logic of history, the only solution to a set of practices and institutions that are collectively destroying the world is to be outside them. Hence the "trip" of mind-altering drugs, the "turn on, tune in, drop out" of Timothy Leary, the "alternate reality" of video games deriving from the "other worlds" of Lewis Carroll and J.R.R. Tolkien, and various countercultures.

It's never mentioned in reference to my opening sentence, but counterculture including pornography is about *building a new culture*. It's a threat to the existing order, which is why it's vilified - the "concern for their well-being" is just a pretext.

Even institutions as well-respected as marriage are part of the system of destruction which the modern era despises more and more.

[Mihalik]

When anything related and having to do with masculinity is considered bad or toxic or "patriarchal" it is unsurprising that many chose to retreat from the environment that deems them defective like that.

We don't demand women to change the very core of their nature, but that is exactly the standard we hold men to.

It is what it is.

[Kraenen]

Not surprising at all.

Modern feminists openly demonize masculinity as "toxic", so it's no wonder some men are choosing to opt out.

Have fun collecting cats.

No they demonize toxic masculinity, not masculinity, at least most normal people would. Nobody likes the "alpha" macho kid

[Lady Dragonheart]

Yeah, see above. Just of pinch of salt, but not too much.

But I recall sending you some of my work in a PM and you still said I was being crass about it.

Which is true. Like I said, assuming that crassness it a good thing would only hinder you from your objective. If your goal is plainly frequent sex, then wouldn't it be better to invest in the majority than the minority of what women like in men? (Which was pretty much my advice from before...)

[THE Bigzoman]

Which is true. Like I said, assuming that crassness it a good thing would only hinder you from your objective. If your goal is plainly frequent sex, then wouldn't it be better to invest in the majority than the minority of what women like in men? (Which was pretty much my advice from before...)

I do what works.

I think crassness does work more often than not. Where it fails is when you're overly crass about it. If you can manage a little innuendo here and there + be less one dimensional than "let me hit that", you'll be fine

[Kraenen]

I do what works.

I think crassness does work more often than not. Where it fails is when you're overly crass about it. If you can manage a little innuendo here and there + be less one dimensional than "let me hit that", you'll be fine

Does it really matter what you do as a black guy in picking up girls? (serious)

I've heard you can literally just stand around and girls will want to hook up with you.

[Mehrunes]

I can't imagine what it feels like to be taught from such an early age that the other 49% of the world is always on the prowl looking to sexually assault me. I'm sure that kind of conditioning does mess with peoples heads.

What do you mean, "conditioning"? The male gaze is real. Beware.

[THE Bigzoman]

Does it really matter what you do as a black guy in picking up girls? (serious)

I've heard you can literally just stand around and girls will want to hook up with you.

There's a kernel of truth to that.

But only for the bald swoll black dudes and/or the girls that usually end up pregnant before 18

[Snowfunk]

I was raised well, I'm polite and well mannered (in real life).
I have a job, I do well at my job. I earn my wage, I my pay my taxes.

That is all society has the right to demand of me.
As long as my existence is not a burden on someone else. No one has any fucking right to tell me what I can and cannot do with my life.

Whatever I do in my free time, Is no one's fucking business.

Sure, I am relieved of any ambitions or aspirations.
I watch porn, I play games, I read books and I watch movies, TV series.
That is my choice.

Traditional expectations are so passé.
Get a girlfriend, get a promotion, get a high education, get married and raise children. Blah blah.
Nothing in this world is depending on me to achieve shit.

I'd rather live a laid back, calm life and do what I like. If people can't accept that, they can fuck of.

[Lady Dragonheart]

I do what works.

I think crassness does work more often than not. Where it fails is when you're overly crass about it. If you can manage a little innuendo here and there + be less one dimensional than "let me hit that", you'll be fine

Well, it's like I said, you have to consider your audience. Women are more social than men (though I don't know what it's like for the younger generations, just my own), but usually I knew the jist of almost every guy's social weaknesses before I was even approached and I wasn't even the popular type of girl, then. Hell, I was essentially a social outcast compared to most and I still knew who from what. Point being, because of social networks (which I assume has gotten significantly worse with the use of the internet and cell phones by the younger generations) are something that can make or break a person's persona. Because of this, social risks are bigger than most people expect.

I was an exception to the rule, however. Unlike most people that inherently trust the opinions of others, I always liked to find out about things myself. Someone with a bad reputation would actually intriguing me than repel me (a bad habit, I'll admit). I'd want to find out if the rumors about someone were true or not. Because of it, I ended up being burnt a lot. However, I also made many powerful, shady, and ruthless friends that often came in handy.

[Independent voter]

If you don't reproduce and raise your kids, your DNA will be cleansed from the gene pool.

It will be like you never existed.

[Theinquisition]

Is this because so many women in the west seem insane in requirements? xD

Some do, without a doubt. Most women however do not, and as long as a man takes care of themselves to a reasonable degree and isn't a complete weirdo they can get a date. It's really not that hard.

[Snowfunk]

If you don't reproduce and raise your kids, your DNA will be cleansed from the gene pool.

It will be like you never existed.

You do realize the world is already overpopulated right?
So basically, not reproducing is doing the world a favor.

[Theinquisition]

I was raised well, I'm polite and well mannered (in real life).
I have a job, I do well at my job. I earn my wage, I my pay my taxes.

That is all society has the right to demand of me.
As long as my existence is not a burden on someone else. No one has any fucking right to tell me what I can and cannot do with my life.

Whatever I do in my free time, Is no one's fucking business.

Sure, I am relieved of any ambitions or aspirations.
I watch porn, I play games, I read books and I watch movies, TV series.
That is my choice.

Traditional expectations are so passé.
Get a girlfriend, get a promotion, get a high education, get married and raise children. Blah blah.
Nothing in this world is depending on me to achieve shit.

I'd rather live a laid back, calm life and do what I like. If people can't accept that, they can fuck of.

I'm inclined to agree with this.

I think the #1 problem with this world is everyone is so damned busy and concerned what other people are doing.

[Toppy]

So was the article a few years back "young men opt for a life of pornography, TV and watching sports" with the later study showing the spike of divorce rates from those same men?

[Theinquisition]

You do realize the world is already overpopulated right?
So basically, not reproducing is doing the world a favor.

This not so much.

Over population (especially in the western world) is a myth. In fact many western nations are not reproducing at a rate to maintain the population.

[Lady Dragonheart]

That's not how the initial stages of dating work. It's not a back and forth, it's the man initiating everything. Initial contact must come from the man and be witty. Then man chooses date location. Man responsible for keeping conversation going at date. Man responsible for making the first move at the end of the night.

So not shockingly, men experience WAY more rejection than women on the dating scene. It's very tough to be in that situation and continue to feel like you have to find the next bit of witty banter for the girl you talk to. I also think that's why girls you speak to about online dating talk about all the weird contact they have with men. That's a result of men trying to be normal and getting nowhere, and so they think, hell, let me be weird and see what happens.

So, you're saying that talking has nothing to do with the initial stages of dating then? How else do you communicate?

[GrinningMan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRAr354usf8

It's not new.