"The Lost Boys" – young men opt for virtual life of pornography and gaming

[THE Bigzoman]

FTFY.



You say so definitively what's purely subjective.



It also doesn't help when like half the available women are fat. I mean, I've nothing against bigger girls but there's no valid reason to commit yourself to (or even bang) someone you're not physically attracted to.



If you're implying that what you quoted makes him a "fuckboy", then you don't understand what it means, either.



You're a hero!

Humans are social animals. We crave human interaction and approval.


You might be a robot, IDK.

[Spectral]

It also doesn't help when like half the available women are fat. I mean, I've nothing against bigger girls but there's no valid reason to commit yourself to (or even bang) someone you're not physically attracted to.

While I basically agree, the average man isn't much different than the average woman here. Lots of people are sedentary and blobular. I suppose that would contribute to a bit of a decline - just because a fat guy might not be able to do better than a fat woman doesn't mean he's willing to sign up for it. I know I would rather watch attractive woman porn than hook up with someone that's overweight.

[Deleted]

No

Women are just as bad about it, let me make it clear. There are plenty of self-loathing women out there who whine whine whine all day about any and everything, don't take care of themselves and then blame men for not swooning.

Upward mobility? in what sense? I can't speak for everyone, but getting right out of the army I didn't make a lot, but through doing well at my job, pursuing technical certifications and social networking, im making my way up "the ladder". You have to want it dude, just like with women, don't expect the perfect job to fall in your lap, you have to chase that shit.

Children are affordable if you want to have them.

I love your mentality, but you need to answer this question for most men: what's the point?

If the quality of average women alone is terrible, what's the point?

Jesus, so many overweight women who would be beautiful if they watched their weight.

For a start.

[sethman75]

You really wouldn't think it would be that hard to find someone considering there are literally millions of compatible women in the world but somehow it really is.

Not really sure that this is a modern phenomenon. I just think people find it hard to find the one.

[Spectral]

I love your mentality, but you need to answer this question for most men: what's the point?

Having a partner in life is fantastic. There's personal connection, affection, readily available sex, more secure finances, higher overall standard of living, and then all sorts of intangibles that are hard to account for.

If the quality of average women alone is terrible, what's the point?

Make yourself better than average and this stops being a problem.

[Deleted]

Having a partner in life is fantastic. There's personal connection, affection, readily available sex, more secure finances, higher overall standard of living, and then all sorts of intangibles that are hard to account for.

Make yourself better than average and this stops being a problem.

Like I said, I admire the mentality, but you're not really empathizing with most men.

Probably because you can't

Change for what? A handful of desirable women who can dictate terms.

Cultures usually go extinct when most people feel they are no longer worth saving.

The Athenians manipulated the Spartans into fighting Xerxes for them, but he still burned down Athens.

Good luck.

[Mistame]

Humans are social animals. We crave human interaction and approval.

More often than not, sure. But even that's subjective. I need either of those.

You might be a robot, IDK.

Robots require human instruction. Maybe I'm a cyborg? Feels are for girls.

While I basically agree, the average man isn't much different than the average woman here. Lots of people are sedentary and blobular. I suppose that would contribute to a bit of a decline - just because a fat guy might not be able to do better than a fat woman doesn't mean he's willing to sign up for it. I know I would rather watch attractive woman porn than hook up with someone that's overweight.

Fair enough. For me, I look at the pros and cons and unfortunately, the cons tend to outweigh the pros.

[Canpinter]

Make yourself better than average and this stops being a problem.

and what do you say to the 1/2 of men who by definition have to be below average

[Rasulis]

The good ones don't need to settle anymore. Ultimately, they can get by without men.

My former girlfriend in Berkeley is now a multi millionaire. She goes to Hong Kong/Taiwan/Korea in January and buy last season fashion in bulk. Then she brings them back here and sell them on the internet. Her husband used to work for Oracle till he figured out that she is making a lot more money than him. Now he works for her.

I dated a Hong Kong girl right after graduation. She worked as event coordinator at a Hilton Hotel. She made enough from her commission to buy a townhouse in the Bay area at a tender age of 27. My second relationship was with a lady more than 20 years older than me. She was a successful business owner, and despite her age, I still have wet dreams about her. Although now she would be in her mid seventies so the reality is probably kind of gross. The third girl was a tour guide. Not your minimum wage tour guide. She would lead full-service tour to Europe, Japan, China, etc. She would take care of visa, accommodations, meals, transportations, etc. She spoke Indonesian, English, Mandarin, Cantonese, French, Italian and German. I met her through my parents. They were on her tour, and they liked her so much, they introduced her to me.

None of these ladies need to settle, and they shouldn't need to. Definitely not for a person that play games 10 hours a day who learned about romance from watching porns. That is just not going to work.

[Deleted]

Quality of the women declining, and a society that increasingly opresses the working men in favour of immigrants, why bother? Much better to "Atlas shrug" and live on welfare while gaming and watching, instead of dedicating your life to support a system that hates you. Going to be rough on all the leechers if the system collapses, but until then/if that doesnt happen, its a sweet deal and quite frankly arguably the "better" one.

[xChurch]

Just have to find a lost girl then? Wait...that sounds wrong.

[Spectral]

and what do you say to the 1/2 of men who by definition have to be below average

Learn to settle for below average women or be an incel, I guess. Not everyone gets to be a winner. Culturally, I'd rather foster an environment where those on the bottom of the pile are happier with what they have, but when dumpy, uneducated men that want to play video games all day aren't able to get as attractive of women as they feel they deserve, I'm probably not going to care much.

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Quality of the women declining, and a society that increasingly opresses the working men in favour of immigrants, why bother? Much better to "Atlas shrug" and live on welfare while gaming and watching, instead of dedicating your life to support a system that hates you. Going to be rough on all the leechers if the system collapses, but until then/if that doesnt happen, its a sweet deal and quite frankly arguably the "better" one.

Degenerates sitting around on welfare, playing video games, and jerking off doesn't quite fit the Atlas Shrugged theme. These are not our best and brightest.

[Grimreaper]

It always seems (at least here in mmot) is that you have folks who are not interested in doing a lot to make themselves marketable I.E. in shape and healthy, shaving the neck beard, being social etc etc, and expect the woman of their dreams to fall in their lap

Pretty much what happened to me. Can happen to anyone else aswell.

[Theinquisition]

Pretty much what happened to me. Can happen to anyone else aswell.

what pretty much happened to you?

[unfilteredJW]

Just have to find a lost girl then? Wait...that sounds wrong.

That's my long term plan.

Bushes + Net Gun

[flyspyro]

FTFY.

You're a hero!

I've been a gamer since I was a little girl. I play the sims and wow mostly. The sim is literally a virtual world that you can build, create, play or be whoever you want. I've never been a people person. I've been waiting for VR for so long.. Thank You game makers for making my life more bearable

[Thoughtful Trolli]

But Hadvar...

You're already IN a perfectly tailored virtual reality simulation.

*attach horrified realization pic*

[Spectral]

Again with the, "Somehow it's always the men's fault."

No shortage of women out there who aren't good or useful in any way, but we're not allowed to say that, apparently. We're supposed to, "Not be shallow" or something when it comes to them.

If you're addressing this from a cultural perspective, there's plenty of blame for women. I hate gender war nonsense. There's not a good gender and bad gender. I do blame feminist narratives for some of the decline of quality of life for sub-median men though.

I'm addressing this when thinking about individuals. I don't feel much sympathy for lazy fucks that haven't put any effort into bettering themselves.

[Masark]

You're already IN a perfectly tailored virtual reality simulation.

Not really. There are a lot of really annoying bugs in this one and the company that made it doesn't seem to be interested in releasing any patches.

[Daymanmb]

insert floating turtle in space reference here and existential pondering of what reality is

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There's not a good gender and bad gender.

Who ate the fucking apple?