‘Game of Thrones’ Accused of Promoting Rape Culture

[Wilian]

Rape culture is about as real as murder culture or burglary culture or pickpocket culture or any of the sort.

It's senseless and stupid as fuck, politically charged buzzword for simple-minded activists.

[Stormdash]

If it didn't exist then women all over the world wouldn't be standing up against it.

If Bigfoot didn't exist, then people wouldn't be looking for him. Wait, what?

[Mehrunes]

people stand up against the Lizard government aswell. Your point?

His point is that Canada isn't as glorious as he wants to pretend in half of his threads and that its school system has failed him. Hence the terrible logic.

[Sliske]

What do you mean?

I mean, whenever you bring this topic up with a Muslim, they will tell you "ohh no, the Quran quite clearly states the earth is round"

Yes, thats my point. It also states that the world is flat like a carpet, too. The point is, flat earth societies are inherently contradictory to themselves and reality.

[Mehrunes]

Rape culture is about as real as murder culture or bugrlary culture or pickpocket culture or any of the sort.

It's senseless and stupid as fuck, politically charged buzzword for simple-minded activists.

Well, at least you didn't go full shitlord and deny flaying culture that GoT so shamelessly promotes. What should be done about this immense nonissue? /sarcasm

[Deleted]

People seem to have a misconception of what rape culture means. It doesn't mean that people hear rape and think "yes, that is acceptable." It's about misconceptions about what constitutes rape (e.g the idea that rape is primarily being violently assaulted in dark alleys) about scepticism and victim blaming (look at what she's wearing, she was asking for it) and the nigh impossibility of convicting rapists.

Game of Thrones definitely brings the rape apologists out in full force. In the past two seasons we had two scenes that where very obviously rape scenes - Jaime raping Cersie and Ramsay raping Sansa - and yet a disgusting number of people insisted that the scenes weren't rape. Including, in the case of the former scene, the director of the scene. So yeah when you have a director filming a scene where the woman is saying no repeatedly, and the man is forcing himself on her saying he doesn't care, a then the director says that's not rape - that's about as rape culturey as you can get.

Neither scene was in the books by the way. Jaime and Cersei was messed up but clearly consensual in the books. Sansa was slotted in the place of another character yet with none of the context that came with that character's story. D+D didn't just happen to include a rape scene, they went out of their way to include Sansa getting raped at the cost of all narrative sense and to the exclusion of everything else that happened in the plot line in the books. They also claimed to have been planning replacing Jeyne with Sansa since season 2. Which means they spent three years planning to put an underage actor in a rape scene the year she turned 18.

[XangXu]

Well I know that I stopped watching the show after the virgin rape scene.

There is good entertainment and then there is shock value.

[Mitak]

Hahahahha. hahahhahah...good one.

[melodramocracy]

Another post proving once you see the phrase "rape culture", you can safely close that browser tab and miss nothing valuable.

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

People seem to have a misconception of what rape culture means. It doesn't mean that people hear rape and think "yes, that is acceptable." It's about misconceptions about what constitutes rape (e.g the idea that rape is primarily being violently assaulted in dark alleys) about scepticism and victim blaming (look at what she's wearing, she was asking for it) and the nigh impossibility of convicting rapists.

Game of Thrones definitely brings the rape apologists out in full force. In the past two seasons we had two scenes that where very obviously rape scenes - Jaime raping Cersie and Ramsay raping Sansa - and yet a disgusting number of people insisted that the scenes weren't rape. Including, in the case of the former scene, the director of the scene. So yeah when you have a director filming a scene where the woman is saying no repeatedly, and the man is forcing himself on her saying he doesn't care, a then the director says that's not rape - that's about as rape culturey as you can get.

Neither scene was in the books by the way. Jaime and Cersei was messed up but clearly consensual in the books. Sansa was slotted in the place of another character yet with none of the context that came with that character's story. D+D didn't just happen to include a rape scene, they went out of their way to include Sansa getting raped at the cost of all narrative sense and to the exclusion of everything else that happened in the plot line in the books. They also claimed to have been planning replacing Jeyne with Sansa since season 2. Which means they spent three years planning to put an underage actor in a rape scene the year she turned 18.

If you don't like it, don't watch it. Thats really what this should come down to.

[Mehrunes]

People seem to have a misconception of what rape culture means. It doesn't mean that people hear rape and think "yes, that is acceptable." It's about misconceptions about what constitutes rape (e.g the idea that rape is primarily being violently assaulted in dark alleys) about scepticism and victim blaming (look at what she's wearing, she was asking for it) and the nigh impossibility of convicting rapists.

Feminist theory disagrees. It says it's the normalization of rape. You know, the terminology the people from the article also used. Also gotta facepalm at the part in bold. The nigh impossibility of convicting rapists is caused by majority of rape cases being "he said, she said". Not a lot of material evidence going on. And you can't prove or disprove consent itself in court most of the times. So criminal justice system working as intended is apparently evidence of rape culture. Riveting tale.

Game of Thrones definitely brings the rape apologists out in full force. In the past two seasons we had two scenes that where very obviously rape scenes - Jaime raping Cersie and Ramsay raping Sansa - and yet a disgusting number of people insisted that the scenes weren't rape. Including, in the case of the former scene, the director of the scene. So yeah when you have a director filming a scene where the woman is saying no repeatedly, and the man is forcing himself on her saying he doesn't care, a then the director says that's not rape - that's about as rape culturey as you can get.

It's about as triggery as you can get. Word of God > your feeble sensibilities. Your meltdown in the thread about Sansa because people disagreed with your MUH RAPE CULTURE crying was also hilarious.

Neither scene was in the books by the way. Jaime and Cersei was messed up but clearly consensual in the books. Sansa was slotted in the place of another character yet with none of the context that came with that character's story. D+D didn't just happen to include a rape scene, they went out of their way to include Sansa getting raped at the cost of all narrative sense and to the exclusion of everything else that happened in the plot line in the books. They also claimed to have been planning replacing Jeyne with Sansa since season 2. Which means they spent three years planning to put an underage actor in a rape scene the year she turned 18.

Yes, that's precisely why they swapped Jeyne and Sansa in the show. Those rape culture masterminds of evil. Not because she was one of the main characters yet was doing nothing significant in the book at that point. And the reason why we had more Bran scenes that created completely new stories was because D&D also have cripple fetish.

[Grimbold21]

Well you know what it means, if we show rape on media, it's gonna bring out the inner rapists inside all Men!!!

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Yes, that's precisely why they swapped Jeyne and Sansa in the show. Those rape culture masterminds of evil. Not because she was one of the main characters yet was doing nothing significant in the book at that point.

Not to mention the treatment Jeyne receives is considerably worse.

[hellhamster]

Fucking hell there are bigger wrongs in the world than a fucking tv show for fuck's sakes.

Grow the fuck up.

[Grishnaar]

FOR FCK SAKE...
It's a TV show. For adults.

You watch it or you don't.

Human "logic" is really fcked up sometimes -.-'

[Mehrunes]

Not to mention the treatment Jeyne receives is considerably worse.

Which only means they also made a version of those scenes that are more closer to the books, just for their sick porn collection, duh. And actually had the actress raped. Those rape culturists.

[Deleted]

There is no rape culture in the west.

/thread

[Kuntantee]

There isn't "rape culture" in the West. You can't promote what is absent from reality. In fact, the only "rape culture" I've heard so far is from Afghanistan and I am not sure how true it is.

[Deleted]

Not to mention the treatment Jeyne receives is considerably worse.

It's not about how bad the rape is, it's about how the rape is treated. Jeyne's rape is horrific, even more so than Sansa's rape in the show. But at least that scene is part of a logical plot. Nothing about the Winterfell plot line in Season 5 made any sense. Why does LF arrange this marriage before he's seen how things play out between Bolton and Stannis? Why doesn't he know that Ramsay is a complete psycho? Why does Roose accept LF's offer? Any legitimacy he gets out of the marriage is moot because he's committing treason by marrying Ramsay to Sansa, and hence the marriage must be a secret. And the rape is pretty much the entirety of Sansa's story in Season 5. Winterfell in ADWD is often regarded as some of Martin's best writing. There's horror, murder mystery, political intrigue, awesome side characters like Wyman Manderly. Showing Ramsay raping his wife was pretty much the least essential part of that. D+D read ADWD and that was all they wanted to portray.

[Xenonn]

was wondering when SJW's would find something to bitch about regarding this show

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

It's not about how bad the rape is, it's about how the rape is treated. Jeyne's rape is horrific, even more so than Sansa's rape in the show. But at least that scene is part of a logical plot. Nothing about the Winterfell plot line in Season 5 made any sense. Why does LF arrange this marriage before he's seen how things play out between Bolton and Stannis? Why doesn't he know that Ramsay is a complete psycho? Why does Roose accept LF's offer? Any legitimacy he gets out of the marriage is moot because he's committing treason by marrying Ramsay to Sansa, and hence the marriage must be a secret. And the rape is pretty much the entirety of Sansa's story in Season 5. Winterfell in ADWD is often regarded as some of Martin's best writing. There's horror, murder mystery, political intrigue, awesome side characters like Wyman Manderly. Showing Ramsay raping his wife was pretty much the least essential part of that. D+D read ADWD and that was all they wanted to portray.

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