Anduin Lothar vs Cairne Bloodhoof

[Wildmoon]

No armor, that was part of the ritual combat.

The Oberyn and Mountain fight is a good example of the point you are getting across, which in general I would agree with. But we aren't talking about fast agile person vs huge person. We are talking about heavily armored knight who is probably around 6 foot, taking on a 10-12 foot monster.
Oberyn vs Mountain is more akin to Garrosh vs Cairne.
Lothar vs Cairne is like...I don't know. Pod vs the Mountain

You are assuming that Lothar in his prime is not agile..

[Gib Lover]

It's not like Lothar is going to let Cairne smash him.

But Cairne is literally tall enough that if Lothar gets within sword range to hit him, Cairne can reach out and grab him. That's bare handed, if he had a totem or the Runespear his reach is even longer.

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You are assuming that Lothar in his prime is not agile..

I'm assuming he's fighting with a sword. With a spear, he would have a better chance. With a sword though, this fight is 100% in Cairne's favor unless he is struck by lightening.

[Nethlord]

Well, I guess it depends...

What's their respective ilvl?


(and this is a joke)

[Gib Lover]

Well, I guess it depends...

What's their respective ilvl?


(and this is a joke)

Read that last bit while looking at your avatar. Amused me internally.

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But Cairne is literally tall enough that if Lothar gets within sword range to hit him, Cairne can reach out and grab him. That's bare handed, if he had a totem or the Runespear his reach is even longer.

Grabbing + Sword= Even if you should manage to win this fight after getting this wound, the chances are good that you bleed out in the aftermath or have to live your life from now an as a cripple.

[Raelbo]

No armor, that was part of the ritual combat.

So basically he just bounced a blade off his hide? Sounds like poor writing to me then. I would concede that if Tauren hide is tough enough to be impervious to steel blades, then Lothar is screwed. But as I understand it Tauren do not have dragon scale for skin (hence why our characters use armour in game). They have leathery skin. Run a sharp blade against it, it will cut and bleed.

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No armor, that was part of the ritual combat.

The Oberyn and Mountain fight is a good example of the point you are getting across, which in general I would agree with. But we aren't talking about fast agile person vs huge person. We are talking about heavily armored knight who is probably around 6 foot, taking on a 10-12 foot monster.
Oberyn vs Mountain is more akin to Garrosh vs Cairne.
Lothar vs Cairne is like...I don't know. Pod vs the Mountain

Pod vs. the Mountain? Now you are being absurd. If anything, it is like Barristan the Bold vs. the Mountain.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Grabbing + Sword= Even if you should manage to win this fight after getting this wound, the chances are good that you bleed out in the aftermath or have to live your life from now an as a cripple.

Orcs can catch swords with their hands and break them, and their skin isn't as hard as tauren. yea youre going to get cut, but your not going to bleed out or be crippled.

[Gib Lover]

Grabbing + Sword= Even if you should manage to win this fight after getting this wound, the chances are good that you bleed out in the aftermath or have to live your life from now an as a cripple.

If Cairne can take Gorehowl to the chest and be fine (poison notwithstanding), I think he can take a few sword cuts. In fact, I'm sure he has over the years against the Centaur and the early campaigns against the humans andd the later campaigns against the Kul Tiras marines.

[Shibito]

So many alliance fanboys, blinded by fannboyism is obvious lol. And M-Ra beeing m ra

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So basically he just bounced a blade off his hide? Sounds like poor writing to me then. I would concede that if Tauren hide is tough enough to be impervious to steel blades, then Lothar is screwed. But as I understand it Tauren do not have dragon scale for skin (hence why our characters use armour in game). They have leathery skin. Run a sharp blade against it, it will cut and bleed.

Could someone post the Scene? I don't really know how this hit was and I thought it was more like he streaked Cairne somehow, not landed a full hit.

[Gib Lover]

So basically he just bounced a blade off his hide? Sounds like poor writing to me then. I would concede that if Tauren hide is tough enough to be impervious to steel blades, then Lothar is screwed. But as I understand it Tauren do not have dragon scale for skin (hence why our characters use armour in game). They have leathery skin. Run a sharp blade against it, it will cut and bleed.

He took the force of the blow, but it did cut him. That's how the poison killed him

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Orcs can catch swords with their hands and break them, and their skin isn't as hard as tauren. yea youre going to get cut, but your not going to bleed out or be crippled.

If blade don't cut Tauren, how the Tauren in Camp Taurajo were killed?

He took the force of the blow, but it did cut him. That's how the poison killed him

Okay, then Tauren are a ridiculous Mary Sue race in general that nobody could kill because they have bones like steal. Then it doesn't matter and even a Tauren Civilian could kill Grommash Hellscream because he couldn't hurt him.

[Gib Lover]

Could someone post the Scene? I don't really know how this hit was and I thought it was more like he streaked Cairne somehow, not landed a full hit.

IIRC, Garrosh slashed vertically and it cut the runespear in half and slammed into Cairne's chest. So the Runespear did absorb a portion of the blow. But this is literally the type of hit Grom inflicted on Mannaroth when he split his spear, then dug into his armored chestplate, then into his flesh.

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Pod vs. the Mountain? Now you are being absurd. If anything, it is like Barristan the Bold vs. the Mountain.

I'm talking about size differences, not skill. Sorry I didn't make that clear.
If each dash is a foot, this is the size difference we are talking about here.
Lothar:
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Cairne:
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IIRC, Garrosh slashed vertically and it cut the runespear in half and slammed into Cairne's chest. So the Runespear did absorb a portion of the blow. But this is literally the type of hit Grom inflicted on Mannaroth when he split his spear, then dug into his armored chestplate, then into his flesh.

So Golden want us to believe that a Tauren is harder then best legion forged steel?

[Gib Lover]

Okay, then Tauren are a ridiculous Mary Sue race in general that nobody could kill because they have bones like steal. Then it doesn't matter and even a Tauren Civilian could kill Grommash Hellscream because he couldn't hurt him.

Pretty much! Garrosh was a dead man until the poison kicked in. For a fantasy race, Tauren are pretty legit overpowered.

[Wildmoon]

But Cairne is literally tall enough that if Lothar gets within sword range to hit him, Cairne can reach out and grab him. That's bare handed, if he had a totem or the Runespear his reach is even longer.

That would be silly. I could easily just say that Lothar would just cut his hands off. Lothar has mastery of shield which would obviously help against a spear.

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IIRC, Garrosh slashed vertically and it cut the runespear in half and slammed into Cairne's chest. So the Runespear did absorb a portion of the blow. But this is literally the type of hit Grom inflicted on Mannaroth when he split his spear, then dug into his armored chestplate, then into his flesh.

Same type with different force applied.

[Schattenlied]

Lets remember that the humans of Azeroth are not the Humans of Earth, in all forms of media they move quite well in full armor, and swing weapons that the average human of Earth wouldn't even consider picking up... In the official artwork for Lothar, the sword he wields makes a medieval era greatsword of earth look like a fucking toothpick, and those things are difficult enough to swing around as it is - They are clearly not as "weak" as we are...

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I don't think Lothar would be agile enough to dodge Cairne's attacks or strong enough to block them long enough for him to get the multiple good hits in he would need to kill Cairne whereas Cairne would need just one good hit.

[Wildmoon]

Pretty much! Garrosh was a dead man until the poison kicked in. For a fantasy race, Tauren are pretty legit overpowered.

They are not at all.