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  1. #21
    Archimonde
    Kil'jaeden
    Illidan
    Lich King

    The below are all dead. Corpses don't have power.....?

    Hakkar
    Ragnaros Fireland Version
    Deathwing
    Garrosh on Old God Juice
    Kel'thuzard
    Gruul
    Lei Shen
    Sha of Pride
    C'thun
    Yogg Saron
    Malygos
    Ak'vair

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    1-Archimonde & Deathwing >>>>>>>>>>> Worthless scum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niteowl View Post
    Hogger above all else
    Yep, the question is flawed at its base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xcell View Post
    um ... no?
    In case you didn't know, OP has a MASSIVE boner for the lich king, and always says that the lich king is the strongest person in Warcraft.

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    In terms of raw power, Deathwing. He was the Cataclysm, the freaking living atomic bomb that almost destroyed the whole world. Literally, with force.

    In terms of how "dangerous" they really are in terms of influence and such, I'd say he is overtaken by Yogg-Saron, C'Thun and probably Archimonde. Archimonde himself, being the left hand of Sargeras, probably destroyed or enslaved countless world with his armies - something Deathwing couldn't have done.

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    Strongest to weakest, descending value:
    Yogg Saron: Probably the most powerful living Old God at the time, much more visible influence than C'thun or N'zoth.
    C'thun: Virtue of being an Old God.
    Archimonde: Full power demon lord, super powerful but not quite Old God level.
    Kil'jaeden (In the toilet): Half power demon lord.
    Deathwing: N'zoth's right hand, but could probably be taken down by Archi.
    Lei Shen: HAS THE SPIRIT OF AMAN'THUL. BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF TITAN KEEPER AND CELESTIAL. However, he's still only a Mogu and loses to the above due to size.
    Ragnaros: Most powerful hostile Elemental Lord.
    Al’akir: Weakest Elemental Lord, but he was on his home plane.
    Lich King: Demigod of death. Has the Scourge. Super powerful, but not literally a god and has no godly powers.
    Malygos: Aspects are mighty powerful.
    Illidan: He could've invaded Argus. Not alone, but that still makes him super powerful. Also, his opponents seem to never be prepared.
    Hakkar: Powerful Loa, but not really on the scale of other deities.
    Garrosh: Even on Y'shaarj juice, he's still an Orc. He was powerful, but a god or even Illidan could still probably beat him.
    Kel'thuzad: Archlich. Can't die. Ex-Archmage.
    Sha of Pride: Most powerful Sha, but still only a fragment of Old God power.
    Gruul: lol it's just a big Gronn

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal123 View Post
    you clearly are new to british bulldog threads.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nosebleeds View Post
    In case you didn't know, OP has a MASSIVE boner for the lich king, and always says that the lich king is the strongest person in Warcraft.
    Ya I am thanks for clearing that out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nosebleeds View Post
    In case you didn't know, OP has a MASSIVE boner for the lich king, and always says that the lich king is the strongest person in Warcraft.
    and Hakkar, as other posts show, BB likes to alternate between who he worships.

    also, im confused how Hakkar(who isnt one of the stronger wild gods) ranks higher then Archimonde(who was able to fight and kill one of the strongest wild gods, Malorne)
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    Hmm, i always though Kil'jaeden is stronger than Archimonde. He couldn't even be summoned without sunwell, and Archimonde got killed by a bunch of wisps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Strongest to weakest: 1.Archimonde
    2. Yogg'saron
    3. Cthun
    4. Deathwing
    5. Kil'Jadean
    6. Hakkar
    7. Lich King
    8. Lei Shen
    9. Ragnaros
    10. Al'akir
    11. Malygos
    12. Garrosh
    13. Illidan
    14. Gruul
    15. Kel'thzad
    Archimonde above Kil'jaeden? Wut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariselea View Post
    Archimonde above Yogg and C'thun? Surely you jest
    considering the chronicle nerfed the old gods to hell it makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Jack Flash View Post
    Archimonde above Kil'jaeden? Wut.
    they should be about equal although we only fought half of kil'jaeden

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Jack Flash View Post
    Archimonde above Kil'jaeden? Wut.
    they should be about equal although we only fought half of kil'jaeden

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkdude103 View Post
    considering the chronicle nerfed the old gods to hell it makes sense
    It's the other way around, though :P The Chronicle actually buffed the Old Gods, just that they had been nerfed plenty of times since WoTLK. Before Chronicle, Y'Shaarj were supposedly being killed by a bunch of Mogu (+Ra'den), at least now they (the OGs) are strong enough to require all Keepers + the titan forged army (or Aman'thul, in Y'Shaarj's case).
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    1) Yogg Saron
    - Old Gods are on top of chain, and Yogg Saron feats are bigger than C'thun's, as described in Chronicle
    2) C'thun
    - as above
    3) Lich King
    - only boss that effortlessly killed the raid (much weaker if considered outside his place of power - Frozen Throne)
    4) Archimonde WoD
    - powers of Archimonde and Kil'jaeden were nerfed in Chronicle, but still should be able to defeat Deathwing
    5) Deathwing
    - old god infused Aspect, but Alextrasza was ALMOST able to match him, Aspects powers were also nerfed in Chronicle
    6) Lei Shen (?)
    - infused with powers of strongest keeper Ra, and portion of Aman'thul powers, beat god of strength Xuen in 1vs1 combat, sadly we don't actually know how he would do agaisnt other characters
    7) Ragnaros firelands
    - more powerful than Al'akir, surely less powerful than Deathwing
    8) Al'akir
    - weakest Elemental Lord, but still should be enough to defeat Malygos (Aspects' power nerfed)
    9) Kil'jaeden sunwell
    - severly handicapped in Sunwell, couldn't even get his legs out, would be higher than Archimonde if fulyl unsleahed
    10) Malygos
    - ordinary aspect, still higher than normal beings
    11) Hakkar (?)
    - little information about him, but as a Wild God he probably isn't higher than Aspect
    12) Garrosh old god juice
    - as powerful as mortal can be
    13) Illidan
    - fought Arthas to standstill, easily more powerful than Arthas' servant then
    14) Kel'thuzad
    - most powerful lich
    15) Gruul
    - come on... its just a beast
    16) Sha of Pride
    - its powers come from ability to corrupt, nt fighting ability

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafoel View Post
    4) Archimonde WoD
    - powers of Archimonde and Kil'jaeden were nerfed in Chronicle, but still should be able to defeat Deathwing
    I might have missed that part, but...when were they ever nerfed in Chronicle?
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    People are way overestimating the Old Gods here, they posed no threat against the Titans and can be matched by mere keepers. Full power Archimonde should be above them in power. Although against a full power Old God it could be close.
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  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Qualia View Post
    It's the other way around, though :P The Chronicle actually buffed the Old Gods, just that they had been nerfed plenty of times since WoTLK. Before Chronicle, Y'Shaarj were supposedly being killed by a bunch of Mogu (+Ra'den), at least now they (the OGs) are strong enough to require all Keepers + the titan forged army (or Aman'thul, in Y'Shaarj's case).
    before chronicle most of us thought the titans themselves fought the old gods leading us to believe that multiple titans are needed to kill/defeat an old god

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafoel View Post
    1) Yogg Saron
    - Old Gods are on top of chain, and Yogg Saron feats are bigger than C'thun's, as described in Chronicle
    2) C'thun
    - as above
    3) Lich King
    - only boss that effortlessly killed the raid (much weaker if considered outside his place of power - Frozen Throne)
    4) Archimonde WoD
    - powers of Archimonde and Kil'jaeden were nerfed in Chronicle, but still should be able to defeat Deathwing
    5) Deathwing
    - old god infused Aspect, but Alextrasza was ALMOST able to match him, Aspects powers were also nerfed in Chronicle
    6) Lei Shen (?)
    - infused with powers of strongest keeper Ra, and portion of Aman'thul powers, beat god of strength Xuen in 1vs1 combat, sadly we don't actually know how he would do agaisnt other characters
    7) Ragnaros firelands
    - more powerful than Al'akir, surely less powerful than Deathwing
    8) Al'akir
    - weakest Elemental Lord, but still should be enough to defeat Malygos (Aspects' power nerfed)
    9) Kil'jaeden sunwell
    - severly handicapped in Sunwell, couldn't even get his legs out, would be higher than Archimonde if fulyl unsleahed
    10) Malygos
    - ordinary aspect, still higher than normal beings
    11) Hakkar (?)
    - little information about him, but as a Wild God he probably isn't higher than Aspect
    12) Garrosh old god juice
    - as powerful as mortal can be
    13) Illidan
    - fought Arthas to standstill, easily more powerful than Arthas' servant then
    14) Kel'thuzad
    - most powerful lich
    15) Gruul
    - come on... its just a beast
    16) Sha of Pride
    - its powers come from ability to corrupt, nt fighting ability
    You seriously put the Lich King above Archimonde Deathwing and Lei Shen?!

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by darkdude103 View Post
    before chronicle most of us thought the titans themselves fought the old gods leading us to believe that multiple titans are needed to kill/defeat an old god
    That's way outdated, though. It dated all the way back in Vanilla / WoTLK IIRC. They had been nerfed in Lore quite a few times since then. For example, the Blizzcon Q&A panel in Cata confirmed that we killed C'Thun & Yogg. MoP told us that the Mogus (+ Ra'den, depends on interpretation) defeated Y'Shaarj by themselves. Another twitter said that the Titans even killed a lot of Old Gods (which might still be true). There might even be more that I can't recall at the moment.

    Compared to getting killed by Mogus, being ripped apart by Aman'thul is certainly a buff =P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonborn View Post
    1.)Kil'jaeden
    2.)Archimonde
    3.)Yogg-Saron
    4.)C'thun
    5.)Deathwing
    6.)Ragnaros
    7.)Malygos
    8.)Al'akir
    9.)Lei Shen
    10.)Illidan
    11.)Garrosh
    12.)Hakkar
    13.)Sha of Pride
    14.)Kel'thuzad
    15.)Gruul
    16...
    17...
    18...
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    21432352352354528342357623523.)Lich King

    BUUUUUURN!
    this is the first time I saw you posting
    I like you already

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iconja View Post
    I mean, people may say the Lich King was the weakest, but he was by far the better character and villain.
    as char in story development sure
    as power ranking not really

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Ra View Post
    Why do you guys all forget Zul'jin, Nefarian or Ossirian? And these are only the endbosses, what is with Baron Geddon, Chromaggus or, probably the most important Boss with the greatest Lore impact, Huhuran.
    you think British Bulldog would like to mention them
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    I just love the idea of "I want to murder people in moderation".
    Quote Originally Posted by Zulkhan View Post
    the only "positive" in your case is that, unlike Blizzard's writers, you aren't paid for that.

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