USA can't afford to go to Mars because of nepotism and greed

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I hear they have chicks with 3 boobs there.

Quaid ....start the reactor!

[Pengekaer]

You have a better chance of colonizing Venus' atmosphere with air ships and blimps and terraforming the surface over the next 100 years than you ever will even establishing a forward base on Mars.

This entire country, nay, this entire worlds focus with the red planet is ill founded as a "safe haven".

Well, I agree. Earth may not be where our future lies, but Mars certainly isn't either. It literally looks like Hell's backyard. Earth will have to be really messed up to be remotely as inhospitable. The Saharan desert 50 km away from your average oasis is a better place to live. And we haven't even begun talking Mars' lack of magnetic field.
No, doubt there could be more than small colonies on mars and probably mostly research/mining missions. It really isn't a nice place at all. Little water, too.

But the Mars-missions could ofc give much scientific data and work as a showcase for space-travelling technology that will hopefully bring some of Mankind to a nicer place in the future.

[Hooked]

I don't think Obama cares about space and I also don't think democrats care about space exploration on average. They cant even afford to feed themselves, they don't care about science.

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The real future lies in Uranus.

The amount of natural gasses there could fuel our planet for centuries.

[Wildtree]

I wonder when Skroe learns that no one reads walls of text.

NASA budget..
Pinning anything about the budget on Obama is a fucking dishonesty.
Or, of course, stupidity of the person who blames him.
The budget is in complete control of Congress. In complete control of the Republican majority.

Now, since we have that out of the way.
NASA never got a big junk of money anyway, except the JFK era. The highest percentage was in 1965 and 1966 with over 4%.
Ever since the percentage went down constantly. And the last time it broke the 1% line was in 1993.

During Obama's presidency it went slightly down compared to Bush's presidency. By about 1/10 if a percent.
You can also tell where and when the shift happened.
When Bush took office the spending was at 0.7%..
And then came the war, and the spending gone down to 0.6%
Under Obama it gone down over time to 0.5%

[Simulacrum]

Having humans survive extinction level events.

Well the moon race brought tons of new technology. I don't see why going to mars won't push US to again acquire that. It's investment into loads of jobs which the country needs. Basically through projects like this tons of people get rich through innovation and jobs, and not few people like in the casino economy the world has atm. What isn't to like other than it's long term and not short term?

Are you really asking this?

You are the problem.

Oh not much, just securing the future of our entire race, no big deal~

Are you kidding? Just look at the space race back in the 60's large amounts of technology was developed that was able to be applied to various aspects of daily life for great benefit. Such technological advancement would surely happen with a real effort to mars. Not to mention the future is in space, not on earth. We should be making efforts into getting resources from space.

Fools errand? Yeah okay. You can stay on earth. We'll colonize Mars.

Billions of dollars are not a lot of money to us.

The future is not on Earth at all.

Space-based colonisation is going to be increasingly important in the coming decades. The US shouldn't want to be left behind. Mars is a step towards the future, even if getting there holds little monetarial benefit currently.

Profit is that we are advancing as civilization.

So.... no profit, then?

I mean, sure, space-based technologies may end up being enormously profitable, specifically sending robots to gather resources. But colonization? That's retarded. You'd be better off colonizing siberia, or the ocean, or the fucking sky with floating blimp cities. More people on the planet is gonna drain our resources? Yeah, nowhere near as much as people living on Mars would drain them, who'd need absolutely everything sent to them from Earth.

I hear they have chicks with 3 boobs there.

Probably the best reason so far.

[Rennadrel]

NASAs budget is part of the reason why America is in so much debt.

[Hooked]

NASAs budget is part of the reason why America is in so much debt.

Welfare for illegals is why we are in so much debt. We were fine until they showed up.

[Cybran]

nowhere near as much as people living on Mars would drain them, who'd need absolutely everything sent to them from Earth.

Think about the raging nationalist boner of sending people to Mars. Scroesec can't think of anything else.

[Wildtree]

NASAs budget is part of the reason why America is in so much debt.

That would be true for every position on the budget.
Since budget is just a list on what the country spends it's money for.

And with 0.5% of the federal budget, NASA is hardly a key player on the country's debt.

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Welfare for illegals is why we are in so much debt. We were fine until they showed up.

That is the same nonsense.
Illegal immigrants are in the US for a lot longer than you are already alive.
The country's debt comes from war after war after war..
1 month of warfare costs more than what 100 million illegal immigrants could get on welfare illegally in 1 year.

[Hooked]

They are all going home so it doesn't really matter right now, we will have our space program back when they are deported.

[Deleted]

No, send him to Pluto so he can confirm its actually a planet again.

I am pretty sure Cyban is more interested in going to Uranus. It is his favorite planet after all.

[Wildtree]

They are all going home so it doesn't really matter right now, we will have our space program back when they are deported.

Except they won't go anywhere.
And yes, once the Republicans lost their majority in Congress, NASA might see a budget increase again.

[Hooked]

Except they won't go anywhere.
And yes, once the Republicans lost their majority in Congress, NASA might see a budget increase again.

Just watch, they are going and America will once again be free, hard working, and pure of heart. The refugees will be expelled also.

[Deleted]

Well depending on who becomes the next president of the US, there might be a giant wall between the US and Mars to keep them Aliens out.

[Deleted]

Well depending on who becomes the next president of the US, there might be a giant wall between the US and Mars to keep them Aliens out.

Paid by the large group of outer space immigrant workers!

[Wildtree]

Just watch, they are going and America will once again be free, hard working, and pure of heart. The refugees will be expelled also.

We should rid ourselves of the likes of you instead.

It would certainly increase the nations average IQ.
Again, these immigrants won't go anywhere. They are smarter than you have ever been.
Plus they are more honest. Some of them are already at work, or on their way to work. Contrary to you who is only a burden on the tax payers, since you don't contribute a thing.

[Hooked]

We should rid ourselves of the likes of you instead.

It would certainly increase the nations average IQ.
Again, these immigrants won't go anywhere. They are smarter than you have ever been.
Plus they are more honest. Some of them are already at work, or on their way to work. Contrary to you who is only a burden on the tax payers, since you don't contribute a thing.

Yeah sure they are, and they pay nothing while I pay everything in my taxes. The prisons are 30% full of illegal felons, don't lecture me on honesty.

[Wildtree]

Yeah sure they are, and they pay nothing while I pay everything in my taxes. The prisons are 30% full of illegal felons, don't lecture me on honesty.

Just stop embarrassing you ever more.

[Hooked]

Just stop embarrassing you ever more.

They are going back, period. You can follow them if you want to immerse yourself more in their culture.