Windows 10 Tried to Install Itself, and I said "Negative Ghostrider"

[Septik]

if it installed ''on its own'' because you have automatic updates its your own fault

Nah man, they put out another update that made the Get Windows X thing auto install. I got texts from about 4 people asking why they are on windows 10 all the sudden and all of them swear they didnt do anything.

I been using GWX Control Panel on all my systems that i didnt want to update, and its kept them all safe.

The good news is, once its installed if you dont want it you can go Start > Settings > Update & Security > Recovery and for one month you will have a button to go back to your previous OS. Just dont wait too long, or it disapears after a month.

[Deleted]

But you agreed to all of this when you hit "accept" when you set up Windows 7.

What... No I didn't. Show me the Windows 7 terms of use part talking about agreeing to upgrade Windows 7 to a newer version of Windows. Updates to the existing software do not include upgrading the software into a completely new, separate software.

What you fear about Windows 10 is all hype and fear mongering....stop.

Unless you are doing alot of illegal activity on your PC, then just upgrade...

Having your eyes open and seeing all the problems people are having with Windows 10 isn't "fear". It's being realistic, and seeing what's happening. It also has nothing to do with "illegal activity". Also, even if Windows 10 worked just fine, upgrading a windows from version X to version Y is a dumb way to go regardless. What you want to do is do a completely clean install. I, however, do not own Windows 10 on a disc, so I can't do that.

"having windows auto update on"
"crying when microsoft is auto updating"

Kids ^^

Yeah, hahaha, kids, I know right! I remember, back in the day, how my Windoze 3.1x auto updated itself into 95. Then that auto updated itself into 98. Then that auto updated itself into XP. Then my XP auto updated itself into Windows 7. I know. Kids, right? Kids don't understand that Windows has always replaced itself with a newer Windows. Through auto update. Right Ealyssa? Right? Hahaha. Those stupid kids, for not knowing this. Right Ealyssa?

[Artorius]

I like when people complain and complain about Windows, find all the reasons possible to hate MS, but then use it anyway.

I mean... If you're not happy with it, you can use something else.

[Ealyssa]

Yeah, hahaha, kids, I know right! I remember, back in the day, how my Windoze 3.1x auto updated itself into 95. Then that auto updated itself into 98. Then that auto updated itself into XP.

Because they were free ? Are you really that smart ?

"Oh noes microsoft auto update make free auto update automatic" keep crying, still your fault...

Kids ^^

[moremana]

The win10 self install HAS NOTHING to do with automatic updates, so who's the moron now????

yes it does, you have to uncheck install optional updates moron.

[Alindra]

I like when people complain and complain about Windows, find all the reasons possible to hate MS, but then use it anyway.

I mean... If you're not happy with it, you can use something else.

Well, to be fair, I don't think you can replace Windows for everything. There will always be games, applications, etc, that work on Windows and not other operating systems (like Linux). If they are supported on other OSes (through various means like WINE), they may not have the performance necessary to really use them satisfactorily... not to mention the learning curve.

If I knew I could play all my existing games flawlessly (or at least, with performance in the same general ballpark as Windows) on Linux, I'd be more willing to consider the option for myself.

[Kyriani]

Windows 10 is a crapload better than that shite 8 was, lot faster than 7. I dont get why people refuse to upgrade, its better.

But it's not.

According to this:
http://www.techspot.com/review/1042-...-vs-windows-7/,

this:
http://www.neowin.net/news/hp-eliteb...-vs-windows-10

and this:
http://www.dualshockers.com/2015/07/...r-performance/

there's no discernible difference between Windows 7, 8 and 10. Windows 10 features an improved memory handling for certain multi-threaded applications like WinRAR but most other applications have the same performance.

Funnily enough Windows 10 has many of the same attributes in common with spyware:

* Downloads itself to your machine without you specifically asking for it? YES
* Aggressively attempts to install itself taking over your computer in the process? YES
* Sends unknown and/or encrypted data to known and unknown third parties? YES
* Sends personally identifying information to known and unknown third parties? YES
* Easy to remove? NO

[Ealyssa]

But it's not.

According to this:
http://www.techspot.com/review/1042-...-vs-windows-7/,

this:
http://www.neowin.net/news/hp-eliteb...-vs-windows-10

and this:
http://www.dualshockers.com/2015/07/...r-performance/

Do you even read what you link ?

from the first link :

Windows 10, which we believe is the best version yet

directly stating that windows 10 is the best of 7, 8.1 and 10.

in the second link : The two graphs give Win10 the advantage

in the third link : The 3 tested games and 3D mark give Win10 the advantage, too

So yeah, you may not like it, borderline lying. But it's a fact : Windows 10 is the best windows microsoft ever made. Is it perfect ? No, is it the best ? Yes, without a single doubt.

[wowaccounttom]

its not a bug, its a feature




dont let the naysayers tell you otherwise...

win10 is the best os evah

/sarcasm

[Artorius]

W10 most perceivable improvements are at things that you can't measure with benchmarks. The scrolling for example feels smoother, things respond quicker and the OS itself feels more graphically accelerated.

Also the interface that simply looks more modern, but whatever.

[vqkatsuko]

Its going to be funny when microsoft stops the upgrade campaign in a couple of months and then DX12 games will start to come out and there will prob be a lot of really sad ppl.

[Artorius]

Its going to be funny when microsoft stops the upgrade campaign in a couple of months and then DX12 games will start to come out and there will prob be a lot of really sad ppl.

I'd be happier if developers actually started making their games with Vulkan instead. Then maybe people would at least try to use the alternatives which would be great for everyone.

[Alindra]

I'd be happier if developers actually started making their games with Vulkan instead. Then maybe people would at least try to use the alternatives which would be great for everyone.

Most emphatically this.

I still don't quite understand why everyone uses the platform locked DirectX, especially when taking cross-platform games into consideration. (Granted, I only have experience programming in OpenGL, so I can't personally compare the merits of the both.)

[vqkatsuko]

I'd be happier if developers actually started making their games with Vulkan instead. Then maybe people would at least try to use the alternatives which would be great for everyone.

While I would love for Vulkan to have widespread support so DX12 can go fuck itself. I still see DX12 being the main API interface for most games. Though this has more to do with how "lazy" PC ports are and with the Windows 10 UWP platform, I can see 90% of most "Cross platform" games with W10 and XB1 being written for UWP as it becomes more mature, which is a DX12 only platform. Either way Khronos Group has a tough vendor lockout battle ahead of them.

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Most emphatically this.

I still don't quite understand why everyone uses the platform locked DirectX, especially when taking cross-platform games into consideration. (Granted, I only have experience programming in OpenGL, so I can't personally compare the merits of the both.)

Same reason why a lot of games have been tied with Nvidia Gameworks over the last couple of years. Even though it unfairly makes AMD cards look like shit.

[Alindra]

Same reason why a lot of games have been tied with Nvidia Gameworks over the last couple of years. Even though it unfairly makes AMD cards look like shit.

But gameworks is a library providing features that aren't part of the graphics APIs themselves. I suspect the differences between DirectX12 and Vulkan will be smaller than those between DirectX11 (and lower) and OpenGL because they're designed to be very thin and give the application explicit control over the GPU. There isn't as much room there for the API to be doing things for the developer behind the scenes like can happen in an OpenGL driver.

[vqkatsuko]

But gameworks is a library providing features that aren't part of the graphics APIs themselves. I suspect the differences between DirectX12 and Vulkan will be smaller than those between DirectX11 (and lower) and OpenGL because they're designed to be very thin and give the application explicit control over the GPU. There isn't as much room there for the API to be doing things for the developer behind the scenes like can happen in an OpenGL driver.

I was more talking about Nvidia pushing money to game development studios to use gameworks in pseudo brand deals, then actual differences in the API. Microsoft has always done that, and now with the UWP platform they are probably going to even harder.

Or the fact that DX12 has better support in Game Engines atm then Vulkan does, mostly because of the same reasons above.

Overall from the API structure and overall feature set I like Vulkan a lot more then DX12, though that doesnt change the current shape of the gaming industry.

[Denpepe]

Funnily enough Windows 10 has many of the same attributes in common with spyware:

* Downloads itself to your machine without you specifically asking for it? YES
* Aggressively attempts to install itself taking over your computer in the process? YES
* Sends unknown and/or encrypted data to known and unknown third parties? YES
* Sends personally identifying information to known and unknown third parties? YES
* Easy to remove? NO

You do know that it is actually windows 7 or 8.1 that is doing most if not all of that bad stuff, You can't blame windows 10 for things that happen when you still run an older version, it's the old version that's nagging, downloading etc..

[Alindra]

Ah, now I see the point you were making, @vqkatsuko. I really dislike those practices and tend not to immediately think in those terms... but it's, sadly, a part of the world we live in.

[kail]

I like when people complain and complain about Windows, find all the reasons possible to hate MS, but then use it anyway.

I mean... If you're not happy with it, you can use something else.

I am using Win 10 atm and have been doing so with one of my PCs before official release. I like the OS, but I will call MS out on unreasonable and unethical business moves. Blind loyalty doesn't help anyone.

I won't boycott if it hinders me, but if/when I can game and do my work on another OS as natively as Windows I will be more inclined to switch.

[Minesweeperchampion]

I always chose the do not upgrade when the windows 10 popup showed up, but they finally decided to ignore me a couple days ago and waste 3 hours of my time installing without permission.

I let the process complete rather than powering off for fear of corrupting my files but when it was finally finished I simply said no, absolutely not. When presented with the terms and conditions I clicked I do not agree and I clicked again that I was sure I do not agree and then it proceeded to spend another 15 minutes uninstalling itself and restoring my previous system.

I worry it will try and install itself again without my permission at some god awful time but for now I still do not have Windows10.