Clinton Broke Federal Rules With Email Server, Audit Finds

[Saucexorzski]

What? He's not honest at all. And on top of that he's got retarded shit under his belt like birtherism and anti-vaxx statements. Trump University? Very honest.

You realize that Hillary is the originator of the Obama birther movement? It started in her negative add campaigns when she ran against him for President.

[shimerra]

You realize that Hillary is the originator of the Obama birther movement? It started in her negative add campaigns when she ran against him for President.

And you realize that while you think you're clever this does nothing to contradict my point which was that Trump is not honest. I never said Hillary was honest. But if you're going to herald Trump as honest or even more honest then Hillary you're quite thick.

Oh and one of my favorite's, being one of the loudest most obnoxious little children about other people releasing their tax returns for full disclosure and then being a gigantic lieing baby about why you can't release yours when it comes time to. Very honest.

[caervek]

And you realize that while you think you're clever this does nothing to contradict my point which was that Trump is not honest. I never said Hillary was honest. But if you're going to herald Trump as honest or even more honest then Hillary you're quite thick.

Honest = no.

More honest than Hillary = yes.

As they are both bad people though it's dubious as to whether being honest about it is good/bad lol.

[shimerra]

Honest = no.

More honest than Hillary = yes.

As they are both bad people though it's dubious as to whether being honest about it is good/bad lol.

In your mind perhaps. Trump's got a nice fat long list of skeevy bullshit under his belt too and even if we could ever some how relatively determine that he was better then Hillary he's shitty enough that the fact he might be relatively better doesn't do him any favors given his other flaws.

[Scathbais]

If they have a goose and a scale they can scientifically confirm if she is a witch!

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Maybe she is a duck?

[TZucchini]

When the results of violating that policy exposes national security concerns, then yes, they all need to go to jail.

That's not how this works. You don't go to jail for violating an email policy. You go to jail after your convicted of a crime. Try again.

I dont know if other SOS had their emails hacked but we know for a fact Guccifer hacked Hillary's. He has admitted it and shown proof and is currently assisting the FBI

No. We do not know for a fact that Guccifer hacked Hillary's email. There is no evidence. Stop spreading misinformation.

Lazar claimed he succeeded in hacking into her private e-mail server and downloading some of the contents. "It was like an open orchid on the Internet. There were hundreds of folders," he told NBC News correspondent Cynthia McFadden before he was extradited to the U.S.

But Lazar refused to show any of the material he said he found on the Clinton server, and federal investigators said they have found no evidence to back up his claim.

[Saucexorzski]

And you realize that while you think you're clever this does nothing to contradict my point which was that Trump is not honest. I never said Hillary was honest. But if you're going to herald Trump as honest or even more honest then Hillary you're quite thick.

Oh and one of my favorite's, being one of the loudest most obnoxious little children about other people releasing their tax returns for full disclosure and then being a gigantic lieing baby about why you can't release yours when it comes time to. Very honest.

Not sure why you think my post you quoted is related to Trumps honesty or not. Frankly i like trump because of the hardship he will bring to the US, Im one of those evil vile folks that thinks america needs to burn, just like a forest fire, so that new growth can come about from the ashes. Its also why id support Bernie. Hillary will only continue what we have. And the US has be stagnate far to long.

[tankbug]

Maybe she is a duck?

It's a fair cop

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Not sure why you think my post you quoted is related to Trumps honesty or not. Frankly i like trump because of the hardship he will bring to the US, Im one of those evil vile folks that thinks america needs to burn, just like a forest fire, so that new growth can come about from the ashes. Its also why id support Bernie. Hillary will only continue what we have. And the US has be stagnate far to long.

That will never happen. Millions will suffer, but no matter how bad things get, USA will limp along. Slow improvement is the only way.

[Felya]

Not sure why you think my post you quoted is related to Trumps honesty or not. Frankly i like trump because of the hardship he will bring to the US, Im one of those evil vile folks that thinks america needs to burn, just like a forest fire, so that new growth can come about from the ashes. Its also why id support Bernie. Hillary will only continue what we have. And the US has be stagnate far to long.

The irony of supporting a guy demonizing people who risk life and limb to have an opportunity in US, because he would burn the country down. May I suggest moving if you hate America this much? There are plenty of Mexicans that would be more than happy to take your place and would cherish their opportunity, not want to burn it down.

If you think America is so bad, that it needs burn... You are a spoiled brat, with no understanding of what burning the country down means. I was there when USSR was burning down and don't see Putin country as a positive improvement. I also see enormous opportunity in U.S. and love the country dearly. Maybe it's because I didn't win the vagina lottery to be born here and had to give up a lot to be here.

[Saucexorzski]

The irony of supporting a guy demonizing people who risk life and limb to have an opportunity in US, because he would burn the country down. May I suggest moving if you hate America this much? There are plenty of Mexicans that would be more than happy to take your place and would cherish their opportunity, not want to burn it down.

If you think America is so bad, that it needs burn... You are a spoiled brat, with no understanding of what burning the country down means. I was there when USSR was burning down and don't see Putin country as a positive improvement. I also see enormous opportunity in U.S. and love the country dearly. Maybe it's because I didn't win the vagina lottery to be born here and had to give up a lot to be here.

Please imply more of how awesome my life has been, tell me all about it since you seem to know more about it then i do. I'm extremely interested.

[Felya]

Please imply more of how awesome my life has been, tell me all about it since you seem to know more about it then i do. I'm extremely interested.

I'm not implying anything about your life, I am talking about life in America. If you think your life problem means everyone else needs to suffer. Than add self centered to my list of qualms over your post... Burning down the country doesn't just impact you...

[Lenonis]

But this thread isn't about Trump, it's about Clinton, Trump is an idiot for different reasons. So no you couldn't change the sentence around because Trump was never a Government employee.

The sentence I quoted had zero to do with government stuff. It was a general statement about being a liar, incompetent, and I'm assuming a statement about being powerful enough to avoid jail even if she did something illegal.

There is about as much evidence out there about Trump violating a variety of laws and rules, especially in how he managed his construction and property deals, as there is with Clinton. Not to mention the questions around Trump University and a few other items in his checkered past.

But, as you say, this isn't a Trump thread.

I just don't see this being something the voter base is likely to care much about. No harm was done, similar behavior was done by other SoS...people don't care to understand the nuance in the differences -- and really, email is hardly a "Sexy" issue to get voters riled up about. Benghazi at least had more of a hook to get people's attention. Hillary using a private server for emails isn't going to get people all riled up to march out and vote for Trump.

The GOP base eats it up, but it's not likely to do much harm to her with everyone else.

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It's sad that Trump will be the best candidate simply because he is honest.

What the actual fuck?

People actually think Trump is honest? Even though he's openly lied on the campaign trail? Is this really what the voting population has come down to?

[Pangean]

Sorry, when you spout bullshit, I have to respond.

Well, actually, those weren't your first words. Your first words were to challenge me when you said that I couldn't the effects of her private email server, remember? to which I replied And then you ran away and said you didn't want to debate me anymore.

I do know what the effects of Hillary's email server was. I know it allowed her to send and receive sensitive information from and to Sydney Blumenthal, someone that Hillary maintained a relationship with even though Obama forbid Blumenthal to be given a position in the State Department. I know Blumenthal didn't have a security clearance. I've read the emails (you could too, if were even the slightest bit curious) and I know they contain information from European Intelligence Agencies, among other things. I've read the Espionage Act, and I believe that Hillary violated it by willfully allowing that type of information to be possessed by someone not authorized to posses it.

So you see, I'm just more informed than you took me for. You want to say this is about my "behavior" as if I'm discussing or debating something in bad faith. You can wait for the Obama Justice Department to tell you what to think, or you can start thinking for yourself. Best of luck.

Lol you aren't sorry. You had to come back begging, just begging that you get my attention. As I have repeatedly said: "I will listen to the professional investigators for evidence rather than someone who plays one in a forum on a gaming site. Especially one who engages in "debate" as you do. This is really about you and your behavior."

And what was the behavior?

"Just not really interested wasting time as you state your "evidence", which you will expect us to accept because you utter it and your readings of regulations and laws and how they apply are the correct readings and anyone saying otherwise is wrong and it goes on for 100's of posts."

And what do you do? Prove me right.

[Saucexorzski]

I'm not implying anything about your life, I am talking about life in America. If you think your life problem means everyone else needs to suffer. Than add self centered to my list of qualms over your post... Burning down the country doesn't just impact you...

Indeed it wont just impact me, and that is the point. This idea that forced cooperation is working in the US is naive. Its done nothing but build resentment. Look at how polarized we are as a nation. We need to fall on our asses hard so that we recognize at the individual level that putting aside our differences and working together to over come adversity will lead to a better place. Right now the US is a powder-keg, its not a matter of if, its a matter of when it will explode. As such i have no trouble voting for the folks wanting to play with matches.

[Pangean]

What? He's not honest at all. And on top of that he's got retarded shit under his belt like birtherism and anti-vaxx statements. Trump University? Very honest. He's loud, obnoxious, and appealing to a populist anti-government sentiment and you're confusing that with honesty.

Just look at the donation to veterans group donation issue. He promised a million dollars of his own money to a group 4 months ago . Never ever gave it to them until the press followed up on his promise this past week. They contacted his campaign manager and he claimed Trump paid the money. The press called the group and he hadn't. The next day magically they got the money. And when further questioned on it, his response was "You know, you’re a nasty guy. You’re really a nasty guy. I gave out millions of dollars that I had no obligation to do,". No obligation other than he promised to.

[Felya]

Indeed it wont just impact me, and that is the point. This idea that forced cooperation is working in the US is naive. Its done nothing but build resentment. Look at how polarized we are as a nation. We need to fall on our asses hard so that we recognize at the individual level that putting aside our differences and working together to over come adversity will lead to a better place. Right now the US is a powder-keg, its not a matter of if, its a matter of when it will explode. As such i have no trouble voting for the folks wanting to play with matches.

This just confirms everything I said, not dispute it. It's done nothing, but build resentment for people who do not see past their nose. We live in one of the most powerful nations, with some of the best living standards in the world. The dollar is the default currency for international commerce.

You think the nation is divided now? What do you think was happening during industrialization, lead up to WW2, McCartheism, Vietnam war, oil crisis, farm crisis or just about any point in history. Look at national voting numbers through history... That's not divided? In fact, Trump being a horrible candidate is a uniting point between both Democrats and Republicans.

You are not immortal, life is not a movie. Burning down the country will impact you, not just everyone else. I've stood in line with my food rations coupon, as tanks were rolling down Kiev, when USSR was burning down. Do you see what is happening in Russia and Ukraine now? Those years of poverty are not going to come back for you to relive. You are being both selfish and ignorant at the same time...

Oh and by the way, blaming cooperation for polarizing, is an oxymoron. You are literally complaining that cooperation is to blame for people not agreeing to cooperate.

If you think America is so bad, that it needs to be burned down... Get the fuck out... Don't fuck up a good thing for everyone else, just because your edgy emo tendencies are acting up. If you want to live in a burned down America, just fucking move to Mexico or Brazil... Leave the country for those of us who appreciate the opportunity America has given us...

[Merkava]

Lol you aren't sorry. You had to come back begging, just begging that you get my attention. As I have repeatedly said: "I will listen to the professional investigators for evidence rather than someone who plays one in a forum on a gaming site. Especially one who engages in "debate" as you do. This is really about you and your behavior."

And what was the behavior?

"Just not really interested wasting time as you state your "evidence", which you will expect us to accept because you utter it and your readings of regulations and laws and how they apply are the correct readings and anyone saying otherwise is wrong and it goes on for 100's of posts."

And what do you do? Prove me right.

What are you doing here? Why are you even posting in a thread that you have no interest in participating in? You issue challenges and then hide and say "I'm wait for the government to tell me what to think."

It's ridiculous the way you characterize my attempt to get you to actually defend your pathetic position as begging.

I'm not asking you to "accept" anything. I'm asking you to participate in a discussion. But like I said, you're too busy waiting for Loretta Lynch to give you your opinion.

[Pangean]

What are you doing here? Why are you even posting in a thread that you have no interest in participating in? You issue challenges and then hide and say "I'm wait for the government to tell me what to think."

It's ridiculous the way you characterize my attempt to get you to actually defend your pathetic position as begging.

I'm not asking you to "accept" anything. I'm asking you to participate in a discussion. But like I said, you're too busy waiting for Loretta Lynch to give you your opinion.

Still back begging for my attention I see. I have explained exactly why I am not going to play games with you. It's your behavior. And amusingly you proved with your own actions how correct I was.

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And what culture is it that listens to country music that I don't support?

You know exactly what culture I am talking about. Don't feign ignorance - you may be many things but you are not ignorant.

[Pangean]

You know exactly what culture I am talking about. Don't feign ignorance - you may be many things but you are not ignorant.

No I don't know what you are talking about. Unlike you I don't pretend to read minds. Explain what culture that listens to country music you are talking about. And then explain how I don't support them. Put on your big boy pants and state clearly what you mean when you make your claims.