Mein Kampf getting popular in EU

[Slant]

How does that work if you don't mind me asking? Are german states allowed to hold property without the federal(?) government claiming ownership as well?

Germany is federalised much like the US is. It's basically run by the states, not the national Government. There are a few (BIG) exceptions that make it look different, but something like this absolutely falls into state jurisdiction. It's really just like a normal inheritance that you can reject in German law. If you do that, inheritance property becomes property of the state. In the case of a house, they will auction it off. In the case of copyright like this, they kept the copyright and let it rot in the deepest cellar they could find. For obvious reasons.

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Yeah I get that. That's what I was meaning. He was a great politician and very influential. My point was that I couldn't even get a part time management gig in ISIS even if I beat the army, but Hitler rose pretty high and basically nearly conquered erope.

I don't blame Germans for hitler. From my understanding most of them were pretty moderate. It would basically be like if Obama started up a gestapo sometime in '14 when we elected him because of hope and change.

Hum, make no mistake, many of them were absolutely in line with his racism and his arguments. Many were indoctrinated and brainwashed, and many all too happily let themselves be brainwashed. And not just few had the same ideas to begin with. Antisemitism was raging wildly in Europe at the time. Germans were not as evil as Hitler, but they were not innocent as a group either.

Of course, they did pay the price and attoned for it. Germans today are abhorred by what happened just like anybody else. And there's no guilt about it anymore. That dark chapter is truly closed by now. One of the reasons why republishing this book didn't cause that much of an upstir. Media tried but realised rather quickly that people simply didn't give a fuck about Hitler anymore. It's history, and history is boring to 90% of the people.

[Lillyth]

Apparently the book has been more popular than before and as recently it is being sent out as gift by some radical parties.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...popular-again/

Do you think EU approach to migrant crisis is giving birth to a new generation of fascists, or there are other reasons to this book becoming popular again?

I think that an interesting book, finally uncut, is getting the attention it deserves after being cut down and censored by the "winning forces".

[Gheld]

I see the Hollywood version of the first half of the 20th century is gospel around here.

[Deleted]

Wasn't Mein Kampf recently unbanned in Germany? Or some academic version of the book got brought out?

It's always been possible to buy in the UK, I found a copy once. It was huge. I flicked through it, but there are 98,473 books I'd rather read. From what I've heard, Mein Kampf is just overly rambly and boring.

I do know some students are required to read it, history majors and whatnot. That could be another reason to buy it. But Mein Kampf would be politically irrelevant even to the modern far right. Hitler's hatred was primary focused on Bolshevism and Jews and he probably ranted about the Treaty of Versailles a lot. Today, it may be directed towards other minority groups and different political ideologies.

[announced]

the constant fuck ups of the leaders in Germany and Sweden, selling their own people down a river for refugees, and the rise of violent crimes/arson committed by refugees has lead to this.

[Aehl]

So now people want to read the recipe of a sick mind just to understand how one person can fuck up an entire continent so badly. Sure, radical streams will use this book as the perfect gift for their radical friends. But this alone doesn't indicate a rise in the radical right or fascist movements. It just indicates that this is something they're interested in.

I've read Mein Kampf. Ive also read Sun Myung Moon's Divine Principle, the Koran, the Book of Mormon, the Bhagavad Gita and the Turner Diaries. None of them have "radicalised me" in any way at all.

Banning books solves nothing.

[Northy]

I'm often reminded when I watch videos that many refugee Muslims openly admit to hating Germany and German culture, while at the same time being the only ones in Germany to praise Adolph Hitler with no recourse, cuz PC cuck Europe.

[sethman75]

"Normal people"? I think you mean stupid and uneducated people.

If you are referring to 99% of the world then yeah that's right.

Tell me if you would like to be the 1% when the "stupid and uneducated people" think that you are not doing right by them.

[8bithamster]

bwhahaha.. a US newspaper thinking they know how people read books here in the EU.

I have to love the nonsense

"OMG MEIN KAMPF IS POPULAR!"
yea.. it's because it was handed out for free
"DON'T CARE! EU IS FACISM!"

MMO-champion in a nutshell

[Ravenblade]

I doubt that shitty books will radicalize people.. the internet is way better for this.

Oh yes, I only have to go to check the usual hipster nazis with their open and "for the lulz" passive-aggressive anti-semitism on Twitter to get my daily fill, Hitler would not earn a single cent or gain any sorts of recognition these days because the average armchair supremacist would outdo him within seconds. I mean just recently Google banned a Chrome extension which highlighted Jewish names so people could become "more aware" of "Jewishness" that has supposedly infiltrated our society. I always find amusing that a lot anti-semites also make use of Facebook.
Thus I hardly find the book important enough these days to pose any danger, people are already trying to become better mini-Hitlers on the internet already because of "lulz" and because it's cool to not be PC these days.

[Oktoberfest]

I think the right wing is tired of listening to left wing socialists who try to tell them what to do all the time using their big weapon.....pc.

Only a matter of time before regular salt of the earth people turn around and say enough is enough.

There is only so much bullshit normal people can take and look out when it happens

Snapback. It will be interesting. I will have no sympathy for the Left when it happens either. Reap what you sow.

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Do you think EU approach to migrant crisis is giving birth to a new generation of fascists, or there are other reasons to this book becoming popular again?

I have noticed a lot of hate towards the immigrants here in the Netherlands, with my work I get in contact with a lot of regular people and I occasionally overhear there chatter. The immigrants are the hot topic now, 8/10 times I have heard people speaking negatively about them wanting them to go somewhere else usually pointing towards France or Germany as they are they are considered the bulk of the EU by these people. The remaining 20% tend to think innocent people deserve protection and they believe most of the bad apples will be filtered out during the process. But note that in the Netherlands the relations between the "foreigners" and natives have been tense for the last 20+ years.

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Oh that's nice, people finally into reading a book, a history book at that. Maybe we should not repeat the stupidity of ww2?

[Slant]

I'm often reminded when I watch videos that many refugee Muslims openly admit to hating Germany and German culture, while at the same time being the only ones in Germany to praise Adolph Hitler with no recourse, cuz PC cuck Europe.

Ripped out of context like any good propagandist would do. Congratulations, these are not refugees. But hey, good attempt. Next time hope your audience is full of ignorant people instead.

[Noradin]

Apparently the book has been more popular than before and as recently it is being sent out as gift by some radical parties.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...popular-again/

Do you think EU approach to migrant crisis is giving birth to a new generation of fascists, or there are other reasons to this book becoming popular again?

People really should read that one more, nothing is more effective at demonstrating how addleheaded and irrational he and his ideas really were.
There is a reason why there are so many mint-condition books of that one still around: Everyone had it in their bookcases and kept it there for show, not for reading. Not only has he had no grasp on the language or grammar, no it is outright painful to try to read.
That book wasn't for reading, it was for fundraising.

The reason it gets "more popular" right now is more likely due to the copyright expiring (the English one was sold, but all others fell to and remained with Bavaria) and thus reprinting being legal once more. (Selling old copies was always legal, just advertising them was not allowed.)

Then there is the part where it is a nice "story" to publish right now, how "Mein Kampf" gets popular once more, the end is coming, and all that... I suspect there is quite a bit of exaggeration and omitting what other factors might play a role in there.

[Aoyi]

First off, this is not an anti-Trump post. I'm just posting the entirety of a situation I experienced one day roughly a month and a half ago.

So I was at California Tortilla one day, eating a delicious burito bowl when I started overhearing a conversation that was rather loud at the table next to mine. At the table were two middle-aged men and one middle-aged women. The conversation started about how much they like Trump and what he stands for. Nothing new there as there are a decent number of Trump supporters by me.

Then after a short pause, the conversation changed. I hear the woman say, "You know, I think I'm starting to understand Hitler. He just wanted what was best for his country." I'm thinking, wow that wasn't something I was expecting to hear. The men with her just nodded, but didn't say anything. She continued, "He's been painted as this bad guy, but I don't think he should have been."

At this point I finished my meal and left. I don't know how long she went on or if the men finally spoke up and were like "wtf...", but I told my wife about it as soon as I saw her. Maybe this woman was reading the book?

[HumbleDuck]

People really should read that one more, nothing is more effective at demonstrating how addleheaded and irrational he and his ideas really were.
There is a reason why there are so many mint-condition books of that one still around: Everyone had it in their bookcases and kept it there for show, not for reading. Not only has he had no grasp on the language or grammar, no it is outright painful to try to read.
That book wasn't for reading, it was for fundraising.

The reason it gets "more popular" right now is more likely due to the copyright expiring (the English one was sold, but all others fell to and remained with Bavaria) and thus reprinting being legal once more. (Selling old copies was always legal, just advertising them was not allowed.)

Then there is the part where it is a nice "story" to publish right now, how "Mein Kampf" gets popular once more, the end is coming, and all that... I suspect there is quite a bit of exaggeration and omitting what other factors might play a role in there.

But it doesn't explain why some radical parties are giving out the book for free. There is no doubt that there are radical movements forming in EU, but is this a sign of these movements slowly crawling back to surface of the society?

[Deleted]

First off, this is not an anti-Trump post. I'm just posting the entirety of a situation I experienced one day roughly a month and a half ago.

So I was at California Tortilla one day, eating a delicious burito bowl when I started overhearing a conversation that was rather loud at the table next to mine. At the table were two middle-aged men and one middle-aged women. The conversation started about how much they like Trump and what he stands for. Nothing new there as there are a decent number of Trump supporters by me.

Then after a short pause, the conversation changed. I hear the woman say, "You know, I think I'm starting to understand Hitler. He just wanted what was best for his country." I'm thinking, wow that wasn't something I was expecting to hear. The men with her just nodded, but didn't say anything. She continued, "He's been painted as this bad guy, but I don't think he should have been."

At this point I finished my meal and left. I don't know how long she went on or if the men finally spoke up and were like "wtf...", but I told my wife about it as soon as I saw her. Maybe this woman was reading the book?

She isn't necessarily wrong. People rarely do unspeakable acts because they enjoy doing morally deprived and horrible things to other humans. They believe in something and commit to their cause at any cost. On that level I can understand ISIS, Black Panthers, KKK and even Hitler. They did and are doing what they think is the right thing to do according to what they believe in. It doesn't matter what reasons they have, they have a reason and that alone is enough. I guarantee you that no action of these magnitudes are done out of pure malice. It just isn't that black and white. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter what cause you believe and support, we're all going to have to be the 'bad guy' from someones perspective. It's a us vs them situation, one has to go. And it's on that level we can all connect and understand each other even if we're on the opposite side of the field.

[Aggrophobic]

If you are referring to 99% of the world then yeah that's right.

Tell me if you would like to be the 1% when the "stupid and uneducated people" think that you are not doing right by them.

Well, if history is any indication then the 1% have and will dictate what the "99%" should do and think.

Fortunately though, 99% of the worlds population do not think that Mein Kampf is handy guide on how to live your life.

[Queen of Hamsters]

Eh, most people I know have read it, mostly just out of curiosity and being able to talk about it with others. You don't have to agree with what's being said.