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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Seefer View Post
    It was explained that they were hidden away in the mist during the whole Lich King thing and couldn't be found.
    But the Wandering Isle has had pandaren leaving and exploring many parts of Azeroth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoobistTV-Metro View Post
    Pandaren weren't around when the Lich King was doing his evil stuff. They were still protected and secluded.
    It would make absolutely no sense for them to be DKs, as that would be rewriting the past storylines.
    Mojo Stormstout (although introduced in MoP) is retconned to have witnessed the crashing of the Exodar and began training draenei monks.

    We already have a pandaren dk in-game which you can get as a garrison follower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atethecat View Post
    But the Wandering Isle has had pandaren leaving and exploring many parts of Azeroth.

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    Mojo Stormstout (although introduced in MoP) is retconned to have witnessed the crashing of the Exodar and began training draenei monks.

    We already have a pandaren dk in-game which you can get as a garrison follower.
    yes but 1 is far differant from hundreds
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atethecat View Post
    But the Wandering Isle has had pandaren leaving and exploring many parts of Azeroth.

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    Mojo Stormstout (although introduced in MoP) is retconned to have witnessed the crashing of the Exodar and began training draenei monks.

    We already have a pandaren dk in-game which you can get as a garrison follower.
    A very, very small handful of them, yes. You could probably count the number of pandaren outside Pandaria or the Wandering Isle back then on one hand. Keep in mind, they were rare enough that pretty much everyone who hadn't personally seen one thought they were a myth. Is it possible that one pandaren could have become a death knight? Sure. Is it possible that any even remotely significant number could have been? Definitely not.

  4. #24
    Worgen really shouldn't be death knights honestly. Not that Arthas couldn't of found them, but worgens cannot be raised which is why the Forsaken have had such a hard time with worgen, because once you kill them, they can't be raised from the dead.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by darkwarrior42 View Post
    Because lore reasons trump gameplay.

    Except of course for when gameplay trumps lore, and the story makes no sense to support game mehcanics.

    But in this case, lore absolutely trumps gameplay, and there are no death knights for purely lore-based reasons.
    Lore reasons? You mean that shitty writing that has zero consistency and changes on a whim to justify whatever they decide to add to the game to make money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzo View Post
    Pandaren are too peaceful in nature to be evil classes. That's why they can't be warlocks either.
    Yeah, there's nothing more peaceful than a rogue that applies a slow-killing poison to their blades or a warrior that wields a massive axe to split people in two.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzo View Post
    Warriors and rogues aren't evil like warlocks and death knights. Their purposes are literally 180 of every other class. Your argument isn't supported purely because of the fact they don't exist.

    Morals > Purpose
    If we're so "evil", why are we working with the Alliance/Horde? And sorry, but nobody is immune to being "evil".

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzo View Post
    Warriors and rogues aren't evil like warlocks and death knights. Their purposes are literally 180 of every other class. Your argument isn't supported purely because of the fact they don't exist.
    The problem with Pandas can't be Death Knights, because they are peaceful doesn't work so good. Death Knights are evil (if we can call them that) because of the curse of being raised a Deathknight. That's not a race issues, that's an effect of being a Death Knight. If we go wit your logic, then Night elves, Tauren and Draenei should also be immune to being Death Knights, because they can't be Warlocks, because as a race they aren't evil enough to practice Demonic magic.

    As I noted on page 1, Shadow Priest will be channeling Old God insanity as their resource (and their class fantansy). I don't know how we can call Fel magic evil, but Dark Lord\Old God magic not evil. Arguably, it's more evil. I think painting warlock as evil is incorrect. We can say that the Fel magic is very taboo to the Pandas, though I thought it was supposed to be consider taboo among all the races.

    Unfortunately, the only real answer we have is "Because Blizzard says so"

  8. #28
    The most likely reason: Blizzard would have to do changes in the DK intro zone to accomodate neutral Pandarens choosing their faction, and they don't want to waste resources on that.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Atethecat View Post
    Worgen really shouldn't be death knights honestly. Not that Arthas couldn't of found them, but worgens cannot be raised which is why the Forsaken have had such a hard time with worgen, because once you kill them, they can't be raised from the dead.
    Worgen can be raised as undead, but they can't be raised by Val'kyr. Val'kyr can only raise vrykul (humans are technically vrykul) and worgen have changed sufficiently to no longer be considered a vrykul by their magic. A gnome or a tauren or an arakkoa would be equally resistant to being raised as Forsaken.

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    Because the scourge would have never turned useless pandas. Waste of necromantic magic.

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  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Atethecat View Post
    But the Wandering Isle has had pandaren leaving and exploring many parts of Azeroth.
    The many part is a bit overplaying it. You could justify every class combo with that. Heck you could say one of the forsaken found the light again and is now a paladin. There are always contrived ways to explain some class combinations, but usually not in the way that makes sense for the huge ingame population.

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    Blizz clearly showed how little they care about lore when they made Demon Hunters available to all races. Oh wait they didn't

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Atethecat View Post
    Worgen really shouldn't be death knights honestly. Not that Arthas couldn't of found them, but worgens cannot be raised which is why the Forsaken have had such a hard time with worgen, because once you kill them, they can't be raised from the dead.
    Wasn't it because Arthas was essentially a big power-up for the val'kyr and without him they can't raise non-humans now (including not being able to raise dwarves and gnomes)?

  15. #35
    Bolvar is not resurrecting new "heroes" to be the next generation of Death Knights, nor are the current members of the Ebon Blade. The Pandaren were hidden away either on Pandaria or on Shen-zin Su (the Wandering Island which is actually a giant sea turtle) during Arthas' reign as the Lich King.

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    The question is NOT why Pandaren can't be DKs..

    The question is, why can Pandaren be played at all?
    Fact (because I say so): TBC > Cata > Legion > ShaLa > MoP > DF > BfA > WoD = WotLK

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  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by FuxieDK View Post
    The question is NOT why Pandaren can't be DKs..

    The question is, why can Pandaren be played at all?
    And what race would you have picked for the expansion titled Mists of Pandaria?

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Kharum View Post
    The most likely reason: Blizzard would have to do changes in the DK intro zone to accomodate neutral Pandarens choosing their faction, and they don't want to waste resources on that.
    Yup this.

    Though the lore reasoning responses are cute.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Seefer View Post
    It was explained that they were hidden away in the mist during the whole Lich King thing and couldn't be found.
    Yeah, so were Bilgewater Goblins and Worgen.

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